Draft Expert Davo-27's 2024 Draft Thread

[pupstar]

Like on the tv show "no deal"! Brady has said we would move back in the order a few places to pick 6 possibly but no further back than that and for pick 2 if we are talking the tigers, "the deal has to be good" were his words so 2 for 6 and 10 or 11. Its really a double edged sword and I'll explain why, as posters have said, we are after key position talent and they know this, BUT we will EXPLORE our options, but we are not going to give our pick 2 away, if some clubs think that then they are in for a big shock. Teams will come for pick 2 whether supporters like it or not and we will take the best deal, what the opposing clubs have to ask themselves is HOW BADLY DO THEY WANT THAT GUN MIDFIELDER OF THEIR CHOICE?

You have been saying this for quite some time now Scout and some still don't get it. Keep up the good work.

 

[jthanos]

You have been saying this for quite some time now Scout and some still don't get it. Keep up the good work.

There are 6 mids of equal ability, thats the beauty of this draft.
1. Lalor
2. Smillie
3. Draper
4. Jagger
5. FOS
6. Langford plus Ried & Lindsay.

That's 8 mids that have excelled this year at some point.

North have only 2 picks ( 2 & 65) - if u want Tauru or Armstrong will you take them at #2 ? No you won't.

You will take a another mid you don't need & risk losing LDU in the next 2yrs.

I think if Richmond offer 6 & 18 & North will accept so they can get 2 players they really need Tauru & Whitlock.
Another mid they don't need !!

 

[FB19]

There are 6 mids of equal ability, thats the beauty of this draft.
1. Lalor
2. Smillie
3. Draper
4. Jagger
5. FOS
6. Langford plus Ried & Lindsay.

That's 8 mids that have excelled this year at some point.

North have only 2 picks ( 2 & 65) - if u want Tauru or Armstrong will you take them at #2 ? No you won't.

You will take a another mid you don't need & risk losing LDU in the next 2yrs.

I think if Richmond offer 6 & 18 & North will accept so they can get 2 players they really need Tauru & Whitlock.
Another mid they don't need !!

I would target 10,11 (might need other things too but that’s the core of the deal) instead and take Tauru/Trainor/Armstrong if I were north. Then one of you should bluff the blues out of the preferred player to extract something to slide to 3.

 

[sufficientintent]

And you can’t see a world where the saints would be interested in 8 for norths F1?

No - we’re not trading out of this years draft, only potentially up or back in

 

[sufficientintent]

I don't think there is any chance we would just take 7 and future 1st though. And if that's what's offered there will be no deal done in my opinion. I can see why the Saints would do the deal but not us.

I mean you’ll probably still get the guy you want at pick 2 at pick 7, a trade with Melbourne St Kilda or Richmond gives you another excellent draft pick this year or next that benefits your club. Absent a better offer, 7+F1 for 2 is a win win for both parties

 

[The Talent Scout]

There are 6 mids of equal ability, thats the beauty of this draft.
1. Lalor
2. Smillie
3. Draper
4. Jagger
5. FOS
6. Langford plus Ried & Lindsay.

That's 8 mids that have excelled this year at some point.

North have only 2 picks ( 2 & 65) - if u want Tauru or Armstrong will you take them at #2 ? No you won't.

You will take a another mid you don't need & risk losing LDU in the next 2yrs.

I think if Richmond offer 6 & 18 & North will accept so they can get 2 players they really need Tauru & Whitlock.
Another mid they don't need !!

Hey jthanos, some interesting points, there are 6 mids of equal ability, well see now that's the beauty of the draft and different opinions, to some you may be right but to a lot of recruiters out there, their whiteboards will have the varying midfielders in a lot different spots than many people realise, so some will be rated a lot higher on potential than others so the equal ability bit gets washed away and on draft night we are going to get a very good view on this. That's 8 mids that have excelled this year at some point.

Yes indeed, there is no right or wrong here, just varying opinions, I have Lalor/Jagga/Finn/Draper/Langford and Smillie as my six, then there is a gap, but as you pointed out Reid and Lindsay had a great national carnival but to me those two are in that next tier but still very good players, Lindsay is in my opinion the best kick in the draft and to me that is a big tick, sometimes foot skill's are not forgotten but under valued compared to other things.

"North have only 2 picks {2 & 65}, if you want Tauru or Armstrong will you take them at #2? No you won't". That's dead right, because we will explore the possibility of trading in our future first or second rounders so that's not really an issue for us in that regard. If we did take another mid, people quickly forget that he would be replacing Taryn Thomas, so again not a disaster but a bonus.

"Risk losing LDU", to people outside our footy club I can see how this is going to be brought up even by media, because half the time they make up their own agenda's to either get clicks or sell papers and they don't follow up on everything, he's not going anywhere, not only does he love our club but he wants to be one of the players to bring this club back to where it should be, playing finals.

Considering some average players are getting close to a million dollars {yes I know everything has gone up} there is talk he will command the highest offer in history, young future star on the rise, I get it, he's an old fashion "shinboner", he would actually bleed for this club and players like that are very very hard to find.

 

[yaco55]

Why has this thread been hijacked. The thread is discussing draft prospects with analysis from Davo.

 

[THE_GUN]

I would highly doubt Blair Hartley will be negotiating on this trade
He will have a value and wont move on that value and that wont be 6 and 10/11
Not in this draft and not for a 4 place upgrade.

Just take our picks and trade later picks for F1s

 

[theGav56]

Will cry if we draft Allen, did nothing special in the WAFL

I'm fine with him, but Travaglia and Lyndsay there would be tasty.

 

[KrispyKreme]

Davo-27

Updated phantom list for the current draft order?

 

[Mofra]

Because there is a clear top 6 midfield group and that's our biggest need. Jumping up to pick 2 would get us basically our pick of an elite mid, and we could retain 8 for Langford (or if another mid slides), or take Travaglia, Tauru, Lindsay, etc depending on our strategy. If we don't go up we're likely to get Smillie (maybe another slider), but that's not a guarantee, doesn't prevent another club from jumping in ahead of us, and Smillie might not be the guy from our recruiting team's perspective.

We'd also prefer to take a mid THIS year instead of next year because a) compromised 2025 draft and b) to accelerate their development to have a half decent midfield group as fast as possible (as opposed to the current situation being the worst or second worst midfield in the comp), so we should be open to trading our F1

Langford night end up the best player in the draft. He's a classic "follow me" player. Cripps and Bont like, not super quick but just brilliant when the game is on the line.

 

[Haggas]

Langford night end up the best player in the draft. He's a classic "follow me" player. Cripps and Bont like, not super quick but just brilliant when the game is on the line.

Langford is my favorite player from this draft. Would love him at Port

 

[Callipygian]

I think it makes sense for Richmond to trade up to North's pick 2, but surely they have to give pick 6 and either 10/11 or two of their late first rounders. Bear in mind, there's a consensus that Carlton paid unders by giving up picks 12 + 14 for pick 3.

If I were RFC I'd offer 6 + 20 + 23. Means you get picks 1 and 2, then 10 & 11, then 18 and the first pick of the 2nd night which can be raffled off for a future 1st or used to take your favourite remaining player. I think consecutive picks are really desirable because you don't have to worry about who the intervening clubs might pick and you know you'll get the player you want regardless of who you take with the first pick. And NMFC can get one of the first tier guns plus two more very handy players. If I were NMFC, I'd ask for picks 6 + 10/11 instead (better fits North's list needs) but if that was knocked back I'd do the deal.

Another option might be to offer 10, 11 + 23 for pick 2 but I wouldn't do that if I were Richmond.

 

[captain cotch 9]

I think it makes sense for Richmond to trade up to North's pick 2, but surely they have to give pick 6 and either 10/11 or two of their late first rounders. Bear in mind, there's a consensus that Carlton paid unders by giving up picks 12 + 14 for pick 3.

If I were RFC I'd offer 6 + 20 + 23. Means you get picks 1 and 2, then 10 & 11, then 18 and the first pick of the 2nd night which can be raffled off for a future 1st or used to take your favourite remaining player. I think consecutive picks are really desirable because you don't have to worry about who the intervening clubs might pick and you know you'll get the player you want regardless of who you take with the first pick. And NMFC can get one of the first tier guns plus two more very handy players. If I were NMFC, I'd ask for picks 6 + 10/11 instead (better fits North's list needs) but if that was knocked back I'd do the deal.

Another option might be to offer 10, 11 + 23 for pick 2 but I wouldn't do that if I were Richmond.

Is there a huge gap between the player at pick 2 (most likely FOS) and what could be avaliable at 6 which could be Langford, Smillie or the Tigers could get the best KPF in Armstrong? Thats also trading out the 10th or 11th rated player....
I dont see it happening.
I think Tigers could do 6+23 but thats it IMO......
And i dont think North would accept that.

Would it be that big of reach for North to take Taru at 2?
In that situation i could see them bidding on Ashcroft

 

[Deadly Darcy]

I can’t see any point in the tigers entertaining anything unless they get massive overs in the trade. I love their draft haul - will absolutely kill it if they stay with precisely what they have.

 

[FB19]

Unless tigers love one of Lalor FOS Smith Draper I would keep pick 6. Take one and then smilie Langford Reid at a minimum will be available.
Maybe saints are the one to look at trading up to get a prime mid. They could deal one of their picks with tigers or giants to get 2 later picks and then bundle the other and a later pick for 2. End up with 2 and a teens pick over 7/8 whilst giants trade up and north slide back.

 

[master bate]

I can’t see any point in the tigers entertaining anything unless they get massive overs in the trade. I love their draft haul - will absolutely kill it if they stay with precisely what they have.

8 picks is far too many in one year, think of the strain that puts on your fitness staff, welfare staff, development coaches etc.

What they will be weighing up is trading up vs trading out in to next year.

North might offer pick 2 for 6 and 11.

But the Eagles might offer a future first for 11 (worth somewhere between 1 and 8 in next years draft). Could be pick 2, and you've still had 6 this year.

If I was Richmond I'd probably attempt to avoid the urge to trade up as much as possible and instead try to trade out 3 of the picks in to next year.

5 in the top 24 this year, 4 first rounders next year. That's how you build a super team.

 

[THE_GUN]

8 picks is far too many in one year, think of the strain that puts on your fitness staff, welfare staff, development coaches etc.

What they will be weighing up is trading up vs trading out in to next year.

North might offer pick 2 for 6 and 11.

But the Eagles might offer a future first for 11 (worth somewhere between 1 and 8 in next years draft). Could be pick 2, and you've still had 6 this year.

If I was Richmond I'd probably attempt to avoid the urge to trade up as much as possible and instead try to trade out 3 of the picks in to next year.

5 in the top 24 this year, 4 first rounders next year. That's how you build a super team.

Not in Favour of trading up from #6 to get #2 specially if having to give up anything more than #18 as the bonus pick
Richmond will have their choice of best of the super 6 as Cal will name it soon and also get another in the same tier

FOS / Smillie Lalor / Langford Jagga / Tauru Draper / Reid then you have Armstrong , Allan , Treavaglia all in contention for top 10.

Selection of 4 of the top 11 spots is a bloody strong hand

#1 - Lalor
#6 - Smillie / Langford
#10 - Armstrong
#11 - Berry
#18 - Hotton
#20 - Hannaford
#23 - Gerreyn / Shannahan / Trainor / Hynes / Faull

#24 - 1st pick on day 2 trade out for F1

More than happy to have the above as our selections which are a very real possibility to be available at the picks