Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell Pt 2 * Coroners Inquiry CANCELLED!

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Continued from PART 1

Criminal charges:
  • Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
  • Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
  • Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
  • 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
  • 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father *Not Guilty
  • Stalking &/or Intimidation on both *Guilty
  • Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty
TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

Please type names out in full for those who are not covered by suppression orders.

For those covered by suppression orders, please use the following to indicate:

FM - Foster Mother
FF - Foster Father
FGM - Foster Grandmother
FD - Foster Daughter
FPs - Foster Parents

Up to you if you wish to refer to them as former fosters but please write it in full, strictly using the above. No deviations.

Other initials posters will use informally but should not are:

BCR - Batar Creek Road
FA - Frank Abbott
MW - Michelle White
SFR - Strike Force Rosann
AMS - Anne Maree Sharpley
CCR - Cobb and Co Road
GO - Geoff Owens
One even reduced bike riding to - BR :rolleyes:
COG - Consciousness of guilt. Like WHO KNEW?
 
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31550 said:
A minute ago people were saying he was abducted by someone?
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Yeah. Some of us are saying that FM involvement, abduction or wandering off are all still possibilities after all this time because the case has been royally stuffed up.

I would love to be wrong, and find out that they have heaps more information on someone and an arrest is made in the next 6 months, but I reckon the chances of that are about the same as me winning Lambos lottery.
 
Awakening said:
Yeah. Some of us are saying that FM involvement, abduction or wandering off are all still possibilities after all this time because the case has been royally stuffed up.

I would love to be wrong, and find out that they have heaps more information on someone and an arrest is made in the next 6 months, but I reckon the chances of that are about the same as me winning Lambos lottery.
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Yep, all 3 are possibilities, but:

The lack of any sound from William, and the total lack of evidence from numerous searches, reduces the likelihood he wandered off.......

The lack of any credible information, physical evidence or cctv re: unknown vehicles reduces the likelihood of abduction......

The inconsistencies / omissions in testimony, deleted messages, and the fact William was known to be in company before suddenly disappearing heightens the likelihood that human intervention was involved in his disappearance.

Imo.
 
Kurve said:
It's like they can't see the answer because it's sitting under their noses
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A few thoughts.

One of the first things I read about William was this article about the coroners court. 2019 Candace Sutton NZ herald. What was interesting to me was how badly the biological family was treated. No legal representation. Not even advised that they might need legal representation. And then a grilling! And at this point AFAIK they were not even POI. ,Something even then did not seem right.

www.nzherald.co.nz

William Tyrell inquest exposes bitter split

The William Tyrrell inquest shows divide between biological family and foster family.
www.nzherald.co.nz www.nzherald.co.nz

Too many coincidences.
(And yes despite everything, I still think the McDonalds on the shoulders photo is included).

Previous injuries.
The original photo released in the orange shirt with a bruised face. And the recent black eye that worried the biological mother on her last visit with William.

The FGM.
The FGM seemed to me to be dismissed. She was a great asset but also a big problem. There she is reading the paper in the photo. Not interacting with the kids that have just arrived to visit. Pointing the finger at multiple suspects. And her walkthrough is a shambles. inconsistencies and does not fit in with FM's statement. She said she followed FM to the road to look for William and saw Anne Maree S, before FF arrived. So this is just wrong. If you don't trust some of her statements then you have misgivings about other parts of her statement, and then all . But everyone trusts the grandma, give her a break, she's old, she has dementia.....hmmmmm.

FM seemed pretty confident they would not find anything at Cobb and Co. Wrong crime scene.

And here we are 10 years on.
 
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zedx said:
IMO random abduction seems much more likely than anything else because there is no direct evidence of anything else, which IMO only leads to random abduction.
IIRC some one mentioned there was a house for sale on that road?
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A house for sale. Really! i don't see the connection with evidence of an abduction.
 
Lady O said:
FF was very keen to give the new car a good clean.

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Wow! Thanks Lady O what a great photo missed that one. Another door into the house that cannot really be seen by any one.
Exactly! The car wash mmmm! There are a lot of products FF or FGM
1 if they are FF bit odd to bring so many or did he go out and buy them?
2 did FGM wash her own car?
When I lost my son his belongings immediately became very precious. Love the way something is over the handle bars of the bikes.
Also in the photo of the patio taken later William’s spider man doll is just lying there with no one around. Some one could have picked it up as a souvenir. The camera person was there.
 
Underarrest_ said:
Sorry, last post for a while,
In FM nieces words, police said, do you think aliens came down and plucked William into thin air. What a ridiculous comment by police if true.
Did Madeleine and Chloe get abducted by aliens?
Maybe aliens will next on their list.
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I liked your posts come back soon.
May be Pol HQ needs an alien visit.
 
zedx said:
IMO random abduction seems much more likely than anything else because there is no direct evidence of anything else, which IMO only leads to random abduction.
IIRC some one mentioned there was a house for sale on that road?
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There was a heavily wooded empty block for sale at the time, right across the road from FGM's house. A house, 49 Benaroon Drive, now sits on that block.
 

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Lady O said:
Everyone's guessing. I'm just saying that wandering off and being lost is more likely in the area he was in, than say in Sydney. It's one theory and IMO probably the one that makes most sense.
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The ground search was immediate and extensive. Sniffer dogs, SES, police and many volunteers. Dressed in bright clothing. Only 3, couldn't have got far, especially in bush. It continued for weeks. Even after 10 years, not a single trace. He didn't wander off IMO
 
The bush is thick but! The SES groups in the area are very talented experienced people who train train train.
The locals also are bush people families who have lived there a long time mist if them.
There was a tracker bought in. These people see thing other people don’t .
William would be frightened he would be screaming
He would have to walk back up past the house to the bush.

The car so! some one is not going to put William in a car seat eating lollies.
How would you stop him from trying to open the door?

Stranger danger is taught at day care FF said he was shy. He would scream the place down . Every one has commented how deathly quiet the site was.

Strangers passing through town. So are you going to take him back to a motel or caravan park? You would have to find a secluded spot. Naah! You would not drive too far with a steaming kid in the car.

The Indigenous man in WA was not like a white person who bump and crash as we move. They are people who are in tune with the land they are used to moving quietly.

William did not take himself into the bush. Every one here has commented how impossible it is to move through.

William was not taken away in a car by a stranger.
This has been effectively debated here on this forum for me.

For me the balcony can be ruled out big dig and the fact the photo of every one standing with Pol on it you think the fosters et al. Would do everything to stop pol thinking about the possibility.

I wonder if any the pol swabbed the area from the door in the garage into the house?

That leaves only one other possibility and I think that is it.
 
js47 said:
The bush is thick but! The SES groups in the area are very talented experienced people who train train train.
The locals also are bush people families who have lived there a long time mist if them.
There was a tracker bought in. These people see thing other people don’t .
William would be frightened he would be screaming
He would have to walk back up past the house to the bush.
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I don't think you have got any idea of what the terrain is like.

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stormbird said:
If the coroner suspends the inquest to send information to the DPP, does she need to tell the public? Could that be what's happening, or is it as the linked article says: the next step will be her findings?
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I think it’s one way or the other.
The Coroner can cease the inquest and refer to the DPP
or
come back with the inquest findings.
This is only my understanding of what I’ve read so happy to be corrected.
 
LRitz said:
A house for sale. Really! i don't see the connection with evidence of an abduction.
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Viewing a house for sale is one of many reasons unknown people could be in town. With so little evidence we need to remain open minded as to what may have happened to WT. imagine if the police involved with little Cleo’s disappearance were so one eyed as to investigating only her parents? She would never have been found. Now that was one very bizarre abduction.
 
zedx said:
Viewing a house for sale is one of many reasons unknown people could be in town. With so little evidence we need to remain open minded as to what may have happened to WT. imagine if the police involved with little Cleo’s disappearance were so one eyed as to investigating only her parents? She would never have been found. Now that was one very bizarre abduction.
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I think Cleo was a different situation, she was removed from the tent in the early hours of the morning on a windy night, Kelly left evidence of his being there and including an electronic trail.

We found out later he was also following Cleo's mum on facebook.

There doesn't appear to be any evidence of FMs involvement in this case but there's none either that points to an abduction.

What's interesting is that the cops have the FM as responsible when it seems more likely that if it was simply a case of the cops wanting this to all go away, they'd find something wrong with the FFs account, which might be more convincing. Yet they haven't done that.

They want the FM for it. Not him. Why?
 
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