Review Dogs defeat Giants 86-71

[Bulldogs Legend]

Being competitive is the trait of an ordinary football team. If they were half decent they’d have beaten us comfortably tonight.

We were shithouse bar periods of that 3rd quarter.

FFS mate we won on the road in the wet

we have one 5 out of 6 now. If we lose the next 6 then you will have plenty of time then to be depressed

Can never understand this need to talk down every single thing we do

 

[Al dente]

As always…

Expected Score / Actual Score

WB: 72 / 86
GW: 71 / 71

Expected Margin / Actual Margin: +1 / +15

Centre Bounce Attendance (27 total)
23 - Bontempelli, English
22 - Liberatore
13 - Daniel
12 - Treloar
11 - Macrae
4 - Lobb

Ruck Contests (Hitouts / To Advantage / Sharked)
80 - English (40 / 12 / 8)
23 - Lobb (12 / 3 / 2)
1 - Naughton (0 / 0 / 0)
1 - Ugle-Hagen (0 / 0 / 0)

Hitouts To Advantage
WB: 15
GW: 7

English v Flynn (36 contests)
Hitouts: 11 / 20
To Advantage: 4 / 3
Clearances: 19 / 13
Score: 2.3 (15) / 0.1 (1)

English v Himmelberg (28 contests)
Hitouts: 21 / 3
To Advantage: 5 / 0
Clearances: 12 / 9
Score: 0.1 (1) / 2.1 (13)

Lobb v Flynn (11 contests)
Hitouts: 4 / 7
To Advantage: 1 / 2
Clearances: 3 / 4
Score: 0.0 (0) / 0.0 (0)

Lobb v Himmelberg (10 contests)
Hitouts: 7 / 2
To Advantage: 1 / 2
Clearances: 3 / 4
Score: 0.0 (0) / 0.0 (0)

First Possessions
WB: 47

GW: 42

Clearances / Effective Clearances
WB: 45 / 30
GW: 37 / 30

Tackle Efficiency
WB: 71%
GW: 72%

Smothers
WB: 14

GW: 14

Forward Half Kicking Efficiency
WB: 62%
GW: 51%

Defensive Half Kicking Efficiency
WB: 74%
GW: 66%

Forward Half Contested Marks
WB: 6
GW: 4

Defensive Half Contested Marks
WB: 6
GW: 2

Score Launches
4 - Dale
3 - Johannisen
2 - Baker, Bontempelli, B. Smith
1 - Daniel, Duryea, Liberatore, Lobb, Richards, Ugle-Hagen

Targets Inside 50

20 - No target/rushed
7 - Naughton
6 - Ugle-Hagen
3 - Weightman
2- English, Johannisen
1 - A. Jones, Liberatore

Shots At Goal
WB: 21 (62%)
GW: 26 (38%)

Scoring Profile (Western Bulldogs / GWS)
Set Shot: 8.0 / 4.2
Snap: 4.2 / 2.7
On Run: 0.1 / 4.1
Mark Play On: 1.0 / 0.0
Ground Kick: 0.2 / 0.0

0M-15M: 2.3 / 0.0
15M-30M: 3.0 / 4.5
31M-40M: 4.0 / 3.3
41M-50M: 2.1 / 2.2
51M+: 2.1. / 1.0

Scores Directly From FK/50MP: 1.0 / 0.0
Scores In Time-On: 5.5 / 2.4
Scores Sourced From D50: 5.1 / 3.1

Score Assists
2 - Ugle-Hagen
1 - Bontempelli, Dale, A. Jones, Macrae, Naughton, B. Smith, Treloar, Weightman, Williams

Defensive 50 Marks
WB: 40
GW: 25

Defensive 50 Intercept Marks
WB: 11

GW: 3

Defensive Half Turnovers
WB: 27
GW: 18

Forward Half Turnovers
WB: 48

GW: 42

Unforced Turnovers
WB: 11
GW: 11

Unforced Turnovers By Player
2 - Baker, Richards
1 - Bontempelli, English, Johannisen, Lobb, Macrae, Ugle-Hagen, Weightman

Dropped Marks (Uncontested Only)
WB: 3

GW: 4

Turnovers Punished By Goals
1 - Baker, Daniel, Duryea, Liberatore, Macrae, Treloar, Ugle-Hagen

Ranking Points (Supercoach)
164 - Bontempelli
124 - English
109 - B. Smith
100 - Liberatore
88 - Macrae
83 - Richards
82 - Daniel
82 - Treloar
79 - Williams
77 - Naughton
74 - Gardner
73 - Johannisen
66 - A. Jones
60 - Dale
53 - Scott
50 - Keath
50 - Lobb
50 - Baker
47 - Ugle-Hagen
47 - Duryea
41 - L. Jones
40 - Weightman
8 - McNeil

AFL Player Rating Points
20.7 - Liberatore
19.7 - Bontempelli
15.2 - Naughton
14.4 - B. Smith
14.3 - A. Jones
13.4 - English
10.3 - Johannisen
10.1 - Weightman
9.9 - Dale
9.8 - Richards
9.2 - Williams
8.6 - Treloar
8.6 - Gardner
8.6 - Daniel
8.2 - Lobb
7.6 - Macrae
7.6 - Keath
6.4 - Ugle-Hagen
5.4 - Scott
5.4 - Baker
3.4 - L. Jones
3.0 - McNeil
3.0 - Duryea

Time In Forward Half
Q1
WB: 49%
GW: 51%

Q2
WB: 46%
GW: 54%

Q3
WB: 38%
GW: 62%

Q4
WB: 41%
GW: 59%

Match
WB: 43%
GW: 57%

Pressure Gauge
Q1
WB: 186 (Average)
GW: 171 (Below Average)

Q2
WB: 192 (Above Average)
GW: 199 (Above Average)

Q3
WB: 183 (Average)
GW: 169 (Below Average)

Q4
WB: 175 (Below Average)
GW: 216 (Elite)

Match
WB: 184 (Average)
GW: 187 (Average)

Pressure Points Per Player
74 - Liberatore
69 - Bontempelli
58 - A. Jones
54 - Naughton
52 - English
42 - Williams
38 - B. Smith
37 - Ugle-Hagen
36 - Richards
35 - Daniel
33 - Macrae
33 - Baker
33 - Treloar
32 - Dale
32 - Weightman
32 - Duryea
31 - Lobb
23 - Keath
20 - Johannisen
20 - Scott
14 - McNeil
8 - L. Jones
7 - Gardner

Free Kick Summary
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Score Sources
Scores From Stoppages: 2.5 / 3.4
Scores From Turnovers: 9.2 / 7.7
Scores From Kick-Ins: 2.1 / 0.0

the pressure rating and AFL player ratings really sum up how good A. Jones was

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

I don’t think we need 3 x KPDs next week. We’d get more out of one of Crozier, Buku or Cleary than the second of Keath or Gardy.

Buku can’t play back until he can run out games

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

Treloar had no ice on his hammy which is a good sign? Disappointing to let go of the rope in the first 10 minutes but we got freaking hosed by the umps in that 10 minutes.

Much like the Port game it coincided with Bont being on the bench as well, we have to fix this, would rather he starts the 4th in the forward line and works his way back into the middle.

Thought Gardner was very Rusty but tough game and conditions to make your season debut in.

It was Canberra so there was natural ice

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

T

I am allowing myself to dream of a forward line with Naughton and JUH as talls, Artie and Cody as smalls, and Darcy floating in as KPF/Second ruck.

they are all relatively young imagine how good in a few years

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

It’s been a struggle to win against 2 bottom 4 sides. Personally I have higher expectations than scrapping in against some of the worst teams in the comp.

GWS have been competitive against everyone

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

Think the melts on Marras game were harsh, wasn’t his best night but when is he ever gonna suit these conditions? I thought he tried really hard, the effort was there which was the main thing. Naughty was arguably worse until his dominant 10 mins, it just was never going to be their night.

Very happy with how hes tracking and I suspect Bev gives him a big tick for his attitude tonight, never stopped trying.

He’s a gem, will be a superstar

Just the usual suspects

Nothing wrong with his ga given the cond

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

Ok they are 13th not 15th. Personally I can’t be happy scraping a win against a lowly side with some of their best missing. Hope I’m wrong but we’ll know more of where we sit over the next 3 weeks.

Personally I don’t think you hope you are wrong

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

Not all players are great in the wet.So well done to the whole team for perseverance.
Pity the mid season draft isn't this week.
We need another big bodied mid.With Treloar possibly missing.Mclean or Mccomb doesn't fill with much confidence

Might be worth giving Bailey Williams some time in there

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

Adam Kingsley is VERY salty in the press conference lol

I was watching him on the screen and thought his reactions were OTT. Yes every coach gets upset but he seemed to be doing it every time the camera was on him

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

If we’re hanging our hat on the fact that Brisbane beat them by 21 pts, then we sound more like Gold Coast supporters than the supporters of a team that should be pushing for a top 4 spot.

Most of our last 4-5 weeks have been great. Bar a poor period against the Hawks last week. Tonight was a couple of steps back from what I watched.

Bank the 4 pts and hope for better performances over the next few weeks. We’ve got a massive opportunity to get a decent ledger between now and a potential finals birth. We need to be playing better than we did tonight though.

We are not hanging our hat on anything other than we are in the 8 and have won 5 from 6. Just enjoy the win and take each week as it come. Every team has beer up and down at different times we just need to bank he wins and move forward

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

He’s the weakest 207cm ever to pull on a jumper not his fault just a poor recruit. Sam Darcy would be doing the same thing if given the same opportunity

What f…ing bullshit

 

[Northernsoul74]

Buku can’t play back until he can run out games

I like Buku but if it’s still a case of tank how long we do persist with him?

 

[Munnez]

Sam Darcy doesn't have the same core strength that Lobb does right now. He will get there in time but currently he is to easily moved off the ball.
The recruitment of Lobb was astute list management so that young Sam isn't ground into pieces before he is ready. And when Lobb is in decline Sam will be ready to take his spot

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

I like Buku but if it’s still a case of tank how long we do persist with him?

It’s a good question but I expect they are hoping it improves over time. He can still play as a 3rd forward when the opportunity presents but we can’t have him in the back half not running out games imagine how he would have been last night towards the end

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

Can’t believe we are a win and percentage off top…

Shhssh don’t tell anyone

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

He was clearly tired and frustrated by the questions tonight but grumpy demeanour aside he was more open and thoughtful than he normally is. The concession perked my ears up too - I liked it. I also thought his answer about why we're transitioning the ball better was a nice reflection.

cant understand why anyone would think that someone as intelligent as Bevo would not self reflect. Might not do it publicly and nor should he.
First couple of rounds could simply be players not performing their roles not necessarily some tactic but like all good coaches he accepts public responsibility

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

Hard to get a gauge on our form with the conditions but the last weeks have been disappointing but a win Is a win.

Bont is leading by example but others need to step up more to share the load. English also continues to cement his first AA. Arty is improving but we need more from Cody. Scott needs to get the ball more and apply pressure. His pressure was very poor last night.

Next week will be interesting, two of the better lists in the AFL but with similar coaching level. Big test for the dogs, if we are a decent team we get the win.

LOL

 

[Bulldogs Legend]

I think it’s mainly due to his ground ball stuff as he’s a little slow to dispose of the ball and can get caught, which stands out to people. Personally I think he’s having a great season, other than being inaccurate in front of goal which I don’t think will be a long term issue.

He is having a better season than the posters

 

[grassman75]

We make hard work of it.

Just once can't we belt someone for %

Reckon if Treloar didn't go off, it was going to be 50pts

 

[Next Waiting]

That said, I do think Tom Green is rising into the elite level of the game and he had a terrific match tonight. He's just 22 and built like the modern prototype (191cm). Much respect for him as a footballer. Could easily win a Brownlow or two before his career's over.

You know D Doublya, being a Canberra resident, you could join the Tom Green fan club and get a free beer when he kicks his first goal. I think they have more members than GWS itself...

You could also be the Dogs man on the inside whilst there and subversively work away at persuading his GF that she really wants to live in Melbourne...Footscray, Melbourne.

Of the up and comer mids on other lists, I'm liking him and Butters from Port (and Maribyrnong College!).

 

[Sheikh from Boggy Creek]

Question for those who have seen the Artful Dodger in the VFL or as a junior:
What do you see as his ceiling? Does he have Eddie Betts tricks or Tom Papley

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Tom Papley

Age

28

Ht

177cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

9.1

4star

HB

5.0

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.5

5star

D

12.3

3star

K

8.9

4star

HB

3.4

2star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.5

2star

G

2.4

5star

D

13.4

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.6

5star

style explosive play?
He looks great to me, but just wondering what else is in his back of tricks apart from pressure, nice hands and nimble feet.

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[Proffessor]

i dont think you can play Keath and gardy in the same side, both have too many calamitous moments

Keath has had some ups and downs recently, but I don't this his spot should be in question, he still brings plenty to the table to balance out his mistakes\weaknesses.

I also struggle to understand how Gardner keeps getting linked with certain players like Keath and before he was pushed out, Cordy, and even less how he often seems to come out on top in such situations. As the late comer with the weaker curriculum vitae, he is the one that should need to work hard to fit in, not others needing to adjust to fit around him.

Last night Ryan was brought into the side because Bruce and O'Brien were both out injured, fine. I'm ok with the selection decision.
I also appreciate that he comes after a layoff, and you can be a bit more forgiving for the long period between senior AFL games, however it should be recognised that he put in another shocker, making repeated defensive mistakes which resulted in opposition goals, and he was lucky that they didn't end up costing us the game.

 

[Al dente]

Keath has had some ups and downs recently, but I don't this his spot should be in question, he still brings plenty to the table to balance out his mistakes\weaknesses.

I also struggle to understand how Gardner keeps getting linked with certain players like Keath and before he was pushed out, Cordy, and even less how he often seems to come out on top in such situations. As the late comer with the weaker curriculum vitae, he is the one that should need to work hard to fit in, not others needing to adjust to fit around him.

Last night Ryan was brought into the side because Bruce and O'Brien were both out injured, fine. I'm ok with the selection decision.
I also appreciate that he comes after a layoff, and you can be a bit more forgiving for the long period between senior AFL games, however it should be recognised that he put in another shocker, making repeated defensive mistakes which resulted in opposition goals, and he was lucky that they didn't end up costing us the game.

yeah i agree Gards was pretty good last night for a first up performance, he got a bit ragged in the second half.
Keath probably does enough, but he is just heart in the mouth too often. If he is playing on the third forward then he needs to mark more, and brain fade less. i would play Buku or Cleary instead as theres more upside

 

[goodcop badcop]

Arty's improvement has been ridiculous. Around about this time last year, he could barely pick up the ball even in the dry. Now he's kicking goals, setting up goals and picking up the ball very cleanly. Pressure has been very important as well. Not sure we win without him.