Strategy Draft assistance 2023 [Twomey: NMFC get #19 in 2023, x2 end of 1st rd picks in 2024, and x2 extra rookie list spots in 2024; no Sanders/#11]

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AFL Draft 2023: Rival clubs aren’t happy the league could allow North Melbourne to land top prospect Ryley Sanders for nothing​

‘It would strike at the heart of the integrity of the competition’. Rival clubs aren’t happy with North possibly getting Ryley Sanders for nothing – and they are taking aim at the league.

Jay Clark


Clubs have vented their frustrations with the AFL over North Melbourne’s plot to pick-up outstanding draft prospect Ryley Sanders for nothing.
The Kangaroos are eyeing the jet midfielder as a pre-selection as part of the special assistance package from league headquarters to help boost the team out of the doldrums.

But the Kangaroos confirmed they would also focus on tall talent in this year’s draft, following the likely departure of Ben McKay to help bolster the back half with West Australian top-five prospect Daniel Curtin likely to come into calculations.

Clubs have registered their anger with league chiefs, adamant Sanders – who is considered a top-10 talent – should be available to all clubs in the first round of the national draft.

Sanders has a link to North Melbourne through its next generation academy as the star ballwinner has Indigenous heritage.

Under AFL rules, players such as Sanders can be taken by any club which selects them in the top-40, but the league may make Sanders off-limits to rival clubs as part of a free hit to North.

The suggestion has caused uproar among clubs who are adamant the move is over-the-top for a club which already has a handful of top-end young midfielders including George Wardlaw, Harry Sheezel, Will Phillips and Luke Davies-Uniacke.

“The integrity of the whole competition is at stake when you talk about a club getting one of the top-six players in the draft for nothing,” a recruiting manager said.

“Ryley Sanders was the best player at the national championships and should be available to all clubs if he is picked inside the top-40, as per the AFL rules.

“How can the AFL hand North Melbourne one of the country’s best underage prospects for free when it directly contravenes their own NGA rules?”

North Melbourne is also set to receive a free agency compensation pick for the departure of fullback McKay who the Herald Sun last month revealed was being targeted by Essendon.

But the league has assured clubs in the past 24 hours it would not fudge the compensation formula to deliver pick three to the Roos if McKay’s new salary did not meet the band one requirements.

The compensation is based on salary, age and length of new deal at his new club.

But the recruiter said the Sanders preselection suggestion had raised the ire of clubs across the competition, despite the Roos’ lowly position.

Brett Ratten and Alastair Clarkson’s men have won only 11 games in the past four seasons under former coaches David Noble and Rhyce Shaw.

“Regardless of any other unrelated free agency compensation picks, it would be incredibly unfair on 17 other clubs if North were handed Sanders as a preselection,” the scout said.

“Clubs have spoken to the AFL about the reports, and it would strike at the heart of the integrity of the competition if they are given another star midfielder considering the talent already on the list and their upcoming picks this year.

“If there needs to be assistance, there are other ways to help, without interfering with the top few picks in the draft.

“Otherwise, we are basically going back to the days of the old priority pick system at the top of the order.

“Sanders is that good.

“The kid should be available to every club if he is picked inside the top-40, as per the league’s own rules. Otherwise, the AFL is making it up as they go along.”

Currently North Melbourne pick two and could be delivered pick three if McKay’s salary tops $800,000. A lesser salary of about $650,000 would net North end of first-round compensation.

Along with Sanders, the club’s recruiting boss Brady Rawlings admitted the Roos were keen to bolster their key position stocks as well.

“We certainly need to look at that key defensive position,” Rawlings said on a club video.

“We are well aware we haven’t picked very tall over recent seasons.”
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What does “Integrity of the competition” mean?



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These are the only 2 acceptable outcomes with a potential 3rd

. Pick 3 for McKay + sanders. This is most preferred however I believe unlikely as clubs will riot.

. Pick 3 for McKay + pick 11 as a priority pick. No Sanders. I believe this is most likely.

Pick 19/20 for McKay + sanders.

Clubs can whinge all they like, we have won 11 games in 4 seasons! Worst team in the modern era. We don’t deserve anything… we NEED everything !
 
The mewling and sooking and whinging tells me it's as good as done, if not already signed off. No way these cretins start leaking to the Herald Sun if it's not already extremely well progressed.
 
footy2016 said:
These are the only 2 acceptable outcomes with a potential 3rd

. Pick 3 for McKay + sanders. This is most preferred however I believe unlikely as clubs will riot.

. Pick 3 for McKay + pick 11 as a priority pick. No Sanders. I believe this is most likely.

Pick 19/20 for McKay + sanders.

Clubs can whinge all they like, we have won 11 games in 4 seasons! Worst team in the modern era. We don’t deserve anything… we NEED everything !
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The pick for McKay will come where it comes, I don’t think they’ll mess with the formula.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see us get pick 11 and the right to match Sanders.
 
toepoker said:
“Integrity of the competition“
This has to be satire
Surely “opposition scout” didn’t say this with a straight face?
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Haha. Yeah l know…Gold Coast have how many in this draft….there goes that argument.
As far as lm concerned any club that’s had assistance can &&$ off …glass houses.
The young fellow is also in our pre determined AFL zone / academy…..so again *&$ off as it’s a stupid flawed sooking argument from all of them.
We take what we are owed and then some …..and l don’t care if they don’t like it….
keep crying your salty tears and I’ll wave my scarf all the way to celebrate everything we get given…..
 

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Sanders has gone from top 10, to top 8 and as of today today, top 6 all within a week…
When is the afl likely to announce something like this? Because if it did go through, I’d imagine it would interrupt drafting plans for 16 other clubs.
 
justroyal said:
Sanders has gone from top 10, to top 8 and as of today today, top 6 all within a week…
When is the afl likely to announce something like this? Because if it did go through, I’d imagine it would interrupt drafting plans for 16 other clubs.
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End of the regular season at earliest
 
footy2016 said:
These are the only 2 acceptable outcomes with a potential 3rd

. Pick 3 for McKay + sanders. This is most preferred however I believe unlikely as clubs will riot.

. Pick 3 for McKay + pick 11 as a priority pick. No Sanders. I believe this is most likely.

Pick 19/20 for McKay + sanders.

Clubs can whinge all they like, we have won 11 games in 4 seasons! Worst team in the modern era. We don’t deserve anything… we NEED everything !
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Nah McKay compo is separate to this
The man is looking for 800k plus, someone will give him 750k and get us band 1

Priority pick 3 and sanders for free

McKay compo if he goes and our pick 2 and ports pick to complete our draft
 
justroyal said:
Sanders has gone from top 10, to top 8 and as of today today, top 6 all within a week…
When is the afl likely to announce something like this? Because if it did go through, I’d imagine it would interrupt drafting plans for 16 other clubs.
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Will be the clear number 2 pick by end of the year. You just know how the media(supporters of non north clubs) will perceive him.
 
giantroo said:


AFL Draft 2023: Rival clubs aren’t happy the league could allow North Melbourne to land top prospect Ryley Sanders for nothing​

‘It would strike at the heart of the integrity of the competition’. Rival clubs aren’t happy with North possibly getting Ryley Sanders for nothing – and they are taking aim at the league.

Jay Clark


Clubs have vented their frustrations with the AFL over North Melbourne’s plot to pick-up outstanding draft prospect Ryley Sanders for nothing.
The Kangaroos are eyeing the jet midfielder as a pre-selection as part of the special assistance package from league headquarters to help boost the team out of the doldrums.

But the Kangaroos confirmed they would also focus on tall talent in this year’s draft, following the likely departure of Ben McKay to help bolster the back half with West Australian top-five prospect Daniel Curtin likely to come into calculations.

Clubs have registered their anger with league chiefs, adamant Sanders – who is considered a top-10 talent – should be available to all clubs in the first round of the national draft.

Sanders has a link to North Melbourne through its next generation academy as the star ballwinner has Indigenous heritage.

Under AFL rules, players such as Sanders can be taken by any club which selects them in the top-40, but the league may make Sanders off-limits to rival clubs as part of a free hit to North.

The suggestion has caused uproar among clubs who are adamant the move is over-the-top for a club which already has a handful of top-end young midfielders including George Wardlaw, Harry Sheezel, Will Phillips and Luke Davies-Uniacke.

“The integrity of the whole competition is at stake when you talk about a club getting one of the top-six players in the draft for nothing,” a recruiting manager said.

“Ryley Sanders was the best player at the national championships and should be available to all clubs if he is picked inside the top-40, as per the AFL rules.

“How can the AFL hand North Melbourne one of the country’s best underage prospects for free when it directly contravenes their own NGA rules?”

North Melbourne is also set to receive a free agency compensation pick for the departure of fullback McKay who the Herald Sun last month revealed was being targeted by Essendon.

But the league has assured clubs in the past 24 hours it would not fudge the compensation formula to deliver pick three to the Roos if McKay’s new salary did not meet the band one requirements.

The compensation is based on salary, age and length of new deal at his new club.

But the recruiter said the Sanders preselection suggestion had raised the ire of clubs across the competition, despite the Roos’ lowly position.

Brett Ratten and Alastair Clarkson’s men have won only 11 games in the past four seasons under former coaches David Noble and Rhyce Shaw.

“Regardless of any other unrelated free agency compensation picks, it would be incredibly unfair on 17 other clubs if North were handed Sanders as a preselection,” the scout said.

“Clubs have spoken to the AFL about the reports, and it would strike at the heart of the integrity of the competition if they are given another star midfielder considering the talent already on the list and their upcoming picks this year.

“If there needs to be assistance, there are other ways to help, without interfering with the top few picks in the draft.

“Otherwise, we are basically going back to the days of the old priority pick system at the top of the order.

“Sanders is that good.

“The kid should be available to every club if he is picked inside the top-40, as per the league’s own rules. Otherwise, the AFL is making it up as they go along.”

Currently North Melbourne pick two and could be delivered pick three if McKay’s salary tops $800,000. A lesser salary of about $650,000 would net North end of first-round compensation.

Along with Sanders, the club’s recruiting boss Brady Rawlings admitted the Roos were keen to bolster their key position stocks as well.

“We certainly need to look at that key defensive position,” Rawlings said on a club video.

“We are well aware we haven’t picked very tall over recent seasons.”
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Easy solution AFL. If rival teams don’t want us to access Sanders pre-draft and are crying poor then give us a priority pick after our first, then we’ll collect the next pick for McKay compo as we’ll make * pay up and we’ll take picks 2,3 and 4 to the draft and use one our picks to draft Sanders anyway! 🤬 Em!


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giantroo said:


AFL Draft 2023: Rival clubs aren’t happy the league could allow North Melbourne to land top prospect Ryley Sanders for nothing​

‘It would strike at the heart of the integrity of the competition’. Rival clubs aren’t happy with North possibly getting Ryley Sanders for nothing – and they are taking aim at the league.

Jay Clark


Clubs have vented their frustrations with the AFL over North Melbourne’s plot to pick-up outstanding draft prospect Ryley Sanders for nothing.
The Kangaroos are eyeing the jet midfielder as a pre-selection as part of the special assistance package from league headquarters to help boost the team out of the doldrums.

But the Kangaroos confirmed they would also focus on tall talent in this year’s draft, following the likely departure of Ben McKay to help bolster the back half with West Australian top-five prospect Daniel Curtin likely to come into calculations.

Clubs have registered their anger with league chiefs, adamant Sanders – who is considered a top-10 talent – should be available to all clubs in the first round of the national draft.

Sanders has a link to North Melbourne through its next generation academy as the star ballwinner has Indigenous heritage.

Under AFL rules, players such as Sanders can be taken by any club which selects them in the top-40, but the league may make Sanders off-limits to rival clubs as part of a free hit to North.

The suggestion has caused uproar among clubs who are adamant the move is over-the-top for a club which already has a handful of top-end young midfielders including George Wardlaw, Harry Sheezel, Will Phillips and Luke Davies-Uniacke.

“The integrity of the whole competition is at stake when you talk about a club getting one of the top-six players in the draft for nothing,” a recruiting manager said.

“Ryley Sanders was the best player at the national championships and should be available to all clubs if he is picked inside the top-40, as per the AFL rules.

“How can the AFL hand North Melbourne one of the country’s best underage prospects for free when it directly contravenes their own NGA rules?”

North Melbourne is also set to receive a free agency compensation pick for the departure of fullback McKay who the Herald Sun last month revealed was being targeted by Essendon.

But the league has assured clubs in the past 24 hours it would not fudge the compensation formula to deliver pick three to the Roos if McKay’s new salary did not meet the band one requirements.

The compensation is based on salary, age and length of new deal at his new club.

But the recruiter said the Sanders preselection suggestion had raised the ire of clubs across the competition, despite the Roos’ lowly position.

Brett Ratten and Alastair Clarkson’s men have won only 11 games in the past four seasons under former coaches David Noble and Rhyce Shaw.

“Regardless of any other unrelated free agency compensation picks, it would be incredibly unfair on 17 other clubs if North were handed Sanders as a preselection,” the scout said.

“Clubs have spoken to the AFL about the reports, and it would strike at the heart of the integrity of the competition if they are given another star midfielder considering the talent already on the list and their upcoming picks this year.

“If there needs to be assistance, there are other ways to help, without interfering with the top few picks in the draft.

“Otherwise, we are basically going back to the days of the old priority pick system at the top of the order.

“Sanders is that good.

“The kid should be available to every club if he is picked inside the top-40, as per the league’s own rules. Otherwise, the AFL is making it up as they go along.”

Currently North Melbourne pick two and could be delivered pick three if McKay’s salary tops $800,000. A lesser salary of about $650,000 would net North end of first-round compensation.

Along with Sanders, the club’s recruiting boss Brady Rawlings admitted the Roos were keen to bolster their key position stocks as well.

“We certainly need to look at that key defensive position,” Rawlings said on a club video.

“We are well aware we haven’t picked very tall over recent seasons.”
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There must be serious outrage in the corridors of power if the best Clark can do is get an angry scout and a recruiting manager who refuse to forego anonymity.
 
They have to publicise the pushback to make it seem like North are getting treated really well.

If they leaked the assistance package and everyone said "sounds fair" then it wouldn't seem like enough.

They need to follow the leak up with "anonymous sources from anonymous teams can't believe how generous the mighty AFL is being to North Melbourne! It's too much!"
 
Deepthroat said:
How do North generate wins with only Corr, Bonnar and Dawson as KD's in 2024?

We'll be back here talking Priority Picks again.

Rewarding North to "let go" of Mackay is counterproductive to them being competitive next year.
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We are not being ‘rewarded’
We are collecting on FA compo like the rules state & like many other clubs have before…
 

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Strategy Draft assistance 2023 [Twomey: NMFC get #19 in 2023, x2 end of 1st rd picks in 2024, and x2 extra rookie list spots in 2024; no Sanders/#11]

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