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[Mofra]

Hotton would be worth the risk could be the very best in the draft!

A foot bone issue then an ACL then follow up surgery on that same knee?

For a guy that relies on agility, the risk is massive. I'm not sure I'd take that risk when there are others available. A team with multiple early picks can take the risk

 

[Andy_Mac]

That may work but they don't have a F2 just three F3 which won't be much value next year with the new points system.

Well. That's a drama then.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

A foot bone issue then an ACL then follow up surgery on that same knee?

For a guy that relies on agility, the risk is massive. I'm not sure I'd take that risk when there are others available. A team with multiple early picks can take the risk

At that range though you can go for the 'Home run' as I put it or go safe. You may very well go safe, but your side can afford to be bold imo, go for the risk.

 

[giantroo]

 

[4tune8]

Yep I agree, feel you take the 3 smalls at 1, 6, 10. Then you take the best tall maybe Armstrong is there at 11 and you just take him. Take the best slider at 18, trade 24 to next year. That would be my gut feeling as to what Richmond do I could be wrong but that's what I would do if I were Richmond. Lets not pretend you won't have pick 1 next year, and probably pick 1-4 the year after. You can get talls there.

What I'd like to see....
Pick 1: Lalor
Pick 6: Smillie
Pick 10: Lindsay
Pick 11: Berry
Pick 18: Oliver
Pick 20: Gerreyn/Sims
Pick 23: Hynes
Pick 24: Use or trade

 

[Rich01]

It's pretty good, you will need to be shambolic for near on half a decade to be able to compete with us LDU or not. It's disturbing that your brain can't work out what i'm telling you and have told you for a few weeks now.


I'll simplify it further for you... Would our midfield be complete with an available Tarryn Thomas and JHF? Yes. They are no longer with us so we have: LDU, Sheezel (part time), Wardlaw and Duursma (no time). Maybe Simpkin, Maybe Scott. That's it.

It’s bleak when you put it that way.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

What I'd like to see....
Pick 1: Lalor
Pick 6: Smillie
Pick 10: Lindsay
Pick 11: Berry
Pick 18: Oliver
Pick 20: Gerreyn/Sims
Pick 23: Hynes
Pick 24: Use or trade

Arrh yeah forgot about pick 23, depends how many list spots you have. If I were Richmond I'd be asking Essendon just how much do you want a pick in this years draft after the Kako bid- if you can get their f1 (which lets be real is a top 3-4 pick) take it!

 

[LB2Snake]

TT was such a disappointing loss and for a number of reasons, still maintain JHF was poor diligence on recruiters a bit though. Thomas literally could have been anything but like Bennell (and others) for off field reasons it hasn't worked out.

I don't think you could've not taken JHF....but I 100% agree re the due diligence. I doon't think we spent enough time with him at all.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I don't think you could've not taken JHF....but I 100% agree re the due diligence. I doon't think we spent enough time with him at all.

More the due diligence and yes I get the line that oh he said he was in and what not, ever bloke will if it means they go pick 1. Even on draft night something looked 'off' and you rarely see that when someone is picked at 1.

 

[LB2Snake]

I definitely rate JHF and TT as players. And I rate LDU. And Sheezel. And Harley Reid.

One doesn’t have to take too much of a leap to think that with a strong plan, development and culture that Norths midfield next year could have had all those guys playing for them.

Instead I’m being told the midfield STILL isn’t complete. After 5 years and over a dozen top 25 picks.

Are you accepting of this?

Geez if LDU leaves next year you’d have to concede somethings very wrong down at Arden St.

Mate we've been a shambles.....fully accept that.
I'm not accepting of the TT one, who would think anyone would do what he did? Next level terrible bloke.
The HF situation stinks, in my mind, that whole thing was a charade....he was a sh!thouse bloke the minute he arrived....that'll all come out one day, always does.
Something's been wrong at Arden st for a long time......looks more on track now, but it bloody well should.
But the TT and JHF things are pretty shocking things to happen to a re-building footy club, in almost consecutive years.
We will be ok. I'm confident.....or deluded. Bit a both

 

[aussierulesrules]

Beautifully argued, it's like you are channeling Blair. But, 10 and 18 for pick 2? I think we'll pass.

I also don't buy this Smillie talk. If they had 1, 2 and 6, I doubt Richmond take 3 mids. It's really the first year of a major rebuild and you will get access to better mids than this year's crop over the next couple of years. Pick 6 looks a safe spot to take your favourite tall, possibly the player you are luring us into trading back to get.

From what’s being reported, it sounds as though all the other clubs are pretty much certain that Richmond are locked in for Smillie at 6.

 

[4tune8]

Arrh yeah forgot about pick 23, depends how many list spots you have. If I were Richmond I'd be asking Essendon just how much do you want a pick in this years draft after the Kako bid- if you can get their f1 (which lets be real is a top 3-4 pick) take it!

7 spots to fill according to most pundits, although Yze mentioned in his team meeting speech that we'll be welcoming 8 new faces....

Surprised that the Dons didn't do a deal for their current picks 28 & 31, could have moved them for futures then used that capital, along with an F1 to get back earlier in the first round.

I don't think it would be outrageous to ask for both of their F1's for pick 11, although Dons supporters would probably riot if that happened. Most likely is that they get back in from pick 15 down, the cost in engineering that would still be expensive.

 

[tiger_tough]

North reached massively for Tauru cos they can't offload pick 2 yet?

 

[LB2Snake]

More the due diligence and yes I get the line that oh he said he was in and what not, ever bloke will if it means they go pick 1. Even on draft night something looked 'off' and you rarely see that when someone is picked at 1.

Agree. But even now he's still as sulking princess. Can play though, but his petulance hasn't been great in big moments.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

From what’s being reported, it sounds as though all the other clubs are pretty much certain that Richmond are locked in for Smillie at 6.

It makes sense especially if they go Lalor at 1. I'm not certain they take Lalor, the more I look at Draper the more I'd take him at 1, that said I don't know what his 'pull' to leave Victoria would be.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Agree. But even now he's still as sulking princess. Can play though, but his petulance hasn't been great in big moments.

That leads to North not doing enough research into him, if you take a guy at 1, you'd want to be certain he's the guy

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I don't think it would be outrageous to ask for both of their F1's for pick 11, although Dons supporters would probably riot if that happened. Most likely is that they get back in from pick 15 down, the cost in engineering that would still be expensive.

I'd ask for their f1 for one of your later picks, lets say 18 or 23, non fussed which one. That's probably the going rate anyway. Agree on their lack of moving their seconds to futures though I was surprised too, but they may split those picks before the draft occurs.

 

[LB2Snake]

That leads to North not doing enough research into him, if you take a guy at 1, you'd want to be certain he's the guy

As I said, I agree. Was that the post Covid year though......travel restrictions? I remember we hadn't spent a lot of time one on one with him though. Was a disaster for us....but Harry and George should be ok to right the ship

 

[aussierulesrules]

The main factor is that in this draft you're more likely to get a top line player with 2 picks in the teens than one at pick 8.

At 8 you might have a 50% chance of getting a top player. In the teens it might drop to 30. But that's an overall increased likelihood if you have 2 bites.

Exactly. It will all pretty much come down to value.

I can only see it happening in-draft and think you'll need GWS to be in love with someone still on the board.

Given who they’ve lost in the offseason, it wouldn’t surprise me if Travaglia is their man, and it sounds like lots of clubs who have picks between 8 and 15 love him as well, so I think it’s a safe bet that they’ll need to get in front of them if want any chance of grabbing him.

 

[4tune8]

From what’s being reported, it sounds as though all the other clubs are pretty much certain that Richmond are locked in for Smillie at 6.

Agreed, we need to target high end mids now. Followed by high HF's, Winger, HBF and all of them with exceptional kicking skills.

KPF's will be bought, either through FA, OOC and even those still contracted.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

North reached massively for Tauru cos they can't offload pick 2 yet?

They won't take Tahru at 2 if they keep the pick. FOS is a different mid to what they have. They can trade into the late first round with their f1 and grab a tall. Lets say they go FOS and get say a Luke Trainor with the sliding back end pick. Recon North fans would be thrilled with that

 

[LukeParkerno1]

As I said, I agree. Was that the post Covid year though......travel restrictions? I remember we hadn't spent a lot of time one on one with him though. Was a disaster for us....but Harry and George should be ok to right the ship

yep, love both of those players, I like Wardlaw more which is sort of weird as Sheezel is the 'goregous' pick for most. Feel Wardlaw will be even better

 

[Rich01]

Mate we've been a shambles.....fully accept that.
I'm not accepting of the TT one, who would think anyone would do what he did? Next level terrible bloke.
The HF situation stinks, in my mind, that whole thing was a charade....he was a sh!thouse bloke the minute he arrived....that'll all come out one day, always does.
Something's been wrong at Arden st for a long time......looks more on track now, but it bloody well should.
But the TT and JHF things are pretty shocking things to happen to a re-building footy club, in almost consecutive years.
We will be ok. I'm confident.....or deluded. Bit a both

I’ve always believed if you had a strong set of leaders at the club, you’d be ok regardless of your position.
These are the President, CEO, Coach and Captain.

If the first two have a clearly defined long term strategy with a roadmap on how to get there on and off the field that’s the most important piece.

Then they have faith in the plan of the coach and put the right support behind him. This includes development, list management and recruiting as well as conditioning.

And then there’s the need for a strong captain to drive the playing culture within the group to set standards and hold the players to account as well as most importantly create buy in.

Do the right thing as per the above, and the rest works itself out.

You’d question whether all of this is in place now, as I think that’s a key determinant of your future success.

It certainly wasn’t when JHF and TT were doing their thing. Hopefully it’s changed enough for LDU to put pen to paper long term.

 

[tiger_tough]

They won't take Tahru at 2 if they keep the pick. FOS is a different mid to what they have. They can trade into the late first round with their f1 and grab a tall. Lets say they go FOS and get say a Luke Trainor with the sliding back end pick. Recon North fans would be thrilled with that

That depends how much difference in potential they see between Tauru and someone like Matt Whitlock or Jonty Faull.

No one is giving up a top 20 pick this year for Norths F1.

 

[the big lebowski]

That leads to North not doing enough research into him, if you take a guy at 1, you'd want to be certain he's the guy

Amateur hour

I remember after his insane PF showcase he did radio and said the only club he hadn’t spoke to all year was north.

North said a few days later “we wanted to let him concentrate on his footy”.

Incredible

I also recall letting him live with CCJ on arrival. CCJ might be the best guy in the world, but we wouldn’t have known as he had just been traded to the club.

Last but no least was Daniel McPherson casually saying during a live stream of a praccy match (laughing) “yeah Jase has just been eating two minute noodles, we’ll have to do something about that”.

It took until late May to organise cooking classes.