Anybody got any ideas what kind of trade North can do with pick 2? Heard they might try it.
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Agree but with what a dozen or so picks in the first 25 over the past five years you would have thought that the midfield would be set at the very least.They hardly thought (at one stage anyway) that as I keep repeating, we have lost TT and JHF (Gun + Pick 1) - our best player is 20, the time is not ticking. If LDU goes, he goes, it's not the end of the world as we'll likely get pick 3-5 for him anyway. You are going to experience abject shitness this year, it's no good, but it's life and you soon deal with it. The concept of mid-table madness (Saints/Essendon's of the world) is no good for anyone.
They hardly thought (at one stage anyway) that as I keep repeating, we have lost TT and JHF (Gun + Pick 1) - our best player is 20, the time is not ticking. If LDU goes, he goes, it's not the end of the world as we'll likely get pick 3-5 for him anyway. You are going to experience abject shitness this year, it's no good, but it's life and you soon deal with it. The concept of mid-table madness (Saints/Essendon's of the world) is no good for anyone.
18 for Adelaide's F1 seems like a very good deal for Richmond."Hey Richmond, you know how you wanted pick 2? We're giving it to Adelaide. Can you give us pick 18?"
Beautifully argued, it's like you are channeling Blair. But, 10 and 18 for pick 2? I think we'll pass.
I also don't buy this Smillie talk. If they had 1, 2 and 6, I doubt Richmond take 3 mids. It's really the first year of a major rebuild and you will get access to better mids than this year's crop over the next couple of years. Pick 6 looks a safe spot to take your favourite tall, possibly the player you are luring us into trading back to get.
18 for Adelaide's F1 seems like a very good deal for Richmond.
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So you don't rate TT and JHF? They are pretty big losses. You are about to rebuild your midfield, it takes a while, but you've at least got quality and experience/size in Taranto and Hopper around them.Agree but with what a dozen or so picks in the first 25 over the past five years you would have thought that the midfield would be set at the very least.
Absolutely staggering the midfield is not complete by now.
And if LDU goes that would be terrible for your club. I don’t care what the pick is.
The rebuild can’t go on for another five years. It’s time to see improvement.
Yes, I agree they will probably use their first two picks on mids, but not their first three. I was responding to a scenario where they had 1,2 & 6 and had traded out 10 & 18.They can get the talls at 10,11,18,24. Best available for the first 3. Now Armstrong might be “best available” anyway. But why not get Lalor/Draper/FOS at pick 1, and then say Smilie who they are really keen on at 6? Could Jagga Smith last till 6? There’s talls later in the first round, Whitlock, Shanahan, etc. I would be surprised if they don’t take two mids at their first two picks.
So you don't rate TT and JHF? They are pretty big losses. You are about to rebuild your midfield, it takes a while, but you've at least got quality and experience/size in Taranto and Hopper around then.
Yes, I agree they will probably use their first two picks on mids, but not their first three. I was responding to a scenario where they had 1,2 & 6 and had traded out 10 & 18.
This time last year everyone was saying this draft was shaping up to be below avg and now it’s one of the deepest.Hardly it’s a worse pick next year in a significantly worse and compromised draft. Plus the Crows can easily come top 6. Horrid deal for pick 18. Pick 24 maybe and that’s “at best”.
This time last year everyone was saying this draft was shaping up to be below avg and now it’s one of the deepest.
Next years draft isn’t significantly worse than this years. At this stage, it looks like it’s lacking a bit of depth but the top 10-15 will be really solid.
If Sharp was available in this years draft he’d be the number 1 pick, quite comfortably too.
Agree but with what a dozen or so picks in the first 25 over the past five years you would have thought that the midfield would be set at the very least.
Absolutely staggering the midfield is not complete by now.
And if LDU goes that would be terrible for your club. I don’t care what the pick is.
The rebuild can’t go on for another five years. It’s time to see improvement.
It is compromised, check how many academy, NGA, and FS prospects are not only rated highly but very highly (I mean we have 2 and we aren't the only ones, we have 3 but the 3rd is a mid second ish). Yes Sharp is a gun, he'll go 1 and to Richmond but it makes no difference to this. Lets assume Adelaide come 6th, you always assume on the higher end, that's pick 13 without the bids. Pick 13 will be 20+ more likely to be 24 ish. How is that on par for pick 18 (which becomes pick 21 this year). It's a worse pick, pick 18 this year gets them access to a Whitlock, Shanahan, etc right now, put a year of development into a tall now. Richmond may send a pick to next year it's likely to be the pick 24 one, 18 is way too high.
It is compromised no doubt, but every draft is. This year we have Ashcroft, Lombard etc. Last we had Rogers, Read, Walter.
Next year though, with the changes to the points system clubs are going to have to cough up more draft capital in order to secure their players, particularly if a club (GC) has multiple early academy selections, so if anything, late first rounders will be more valuable than they are currently.
2nd rounders will increase in value as they're prime matching points. Late first will drop as you won't be able to trade in as many points as Brisbane for example did this year.It is compromised no doubt, but every draft is. This year we have Ashcroft, Lombard etc. Last we had Rogers, Read, Walter.
Next year though, with the changes to the points system clubs are going to have to cough up more draft capital in order to secure their players, particularly if a club (GC) has multiple early academy selections, so if anything, late first rounders will be more valuable than they are currently.
2nd rounders will increase in value as they're prime matching points. Late first will drop as you won't be able to trade in as many points as Brisbane for example did this year.
I think it will be short lived with the Northern academy kids though, as with the extra price, they'll start hiding the good ones - I think Sydney already are.
You haven't had any go early for a while with some likely prospects likely to go a bit later. Cleary and Cochran? Obviously Gulden, but that was probably covid.If we are 'hiding' them boy we are doing a worse job than our 'performance' on Grand Final day!
You haven't had any go early for a while with some likely prospects likely to go a bit later. Cleary and Cochran? Obviously Gulden, but that was probably covid.
I definitely rate JHF and TT as players. And I rate LDU. And Sheezel. And Harley Reid.So you don't rate TT and JHF? They are pretty big losses. You are about to rebuild your midfield, it takes a while, but you've at least got quality and experience/size in Taranto and Hopper around then.
I think that the perception that the Tigers will take 3-4 talls is misreading our list.Actually think they use their first 3 regardless where they are on midfielders. I wouldn't be shocked if they use their first 4 on smaller types either, there would be variations though, you could take the premier wingman in the draft at 10 if he's there. There are a lot of talls but Armstrong aside there are so many from the teens onwards, you could grab both the Whitlocks at 18 and 24 for instance. I also won't be shocked to see them bundle 18 and 24 with another club either. Richmond have options. They can also send 24 into next year too
I think that the perception that the Tigers will take 3-4 talls is misreading our list.
We currently have 17 players on the list who can be classed as KPP's, I'm including Vlastuin and Broad here. If we take 3 talls in the draft then we'll have 20, now that would be nigh on 50% of the list. Yes, we need a KPF, but it has to be one that a Premiership winning forward line can be built around, I'm just not seeing that with this crop. We're fully stocked with 2nd and 3rd tall forwards, some too early to tell whether they'll cut the mustard, Fawcett and Gray, others showing a bit of promise, LeFau and Bauer, then there's Ryan and Koshitzke.
With the changes to how lists are built coming in over the next 3 years, ie: 10% banking of salary cap, 2 years of future trading and then pick purchasing, we'll have the cash and draft capital to buy any player in the league, including the contracted ones.
We're lacking in a quality 2nd ruck but can get by taking a ruck/forward and developing him for a couple of years, also supplementing that line through mature age picks.
Don't be surprised if we just take the one tall, J Whitlock, Gerreyn or Sims
Leaks and links are starting to emerge - and the Bulldogs are linked to guys I'm not very enthusiastic about (Hotton, Datolli and Trainor among them)