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No chance of us giving up our F2
No offence, but how do you know? I wouldn’t have a clue what Brady Rawlings is planning. I know what I want him to do, but I’ve got nothing to do with it. It’s an interesting time with all the futures etc being involved and the amazing draft hand you guys hold. But I’m tipping you don’t know what players they have on their board for this year or next, as do I.
I don’t want 6 and 18 for 2, just like I’m sure you don’t wanna give up 6 and 10/11…….but it’s pretty cool that it’s all going to play out one way or another. Wouldn’t surprise me if a deal has already been struck with another club, this stuff sometimes comes out of nowhere.
 

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Yeah but Willy T hearts Tauru. Big throb.

Tauru at 2? Nah. You're trading back. Tauru and a good kid is better than Tauru and a dreg. You'll be able to get a good kid at 24.

If they want that they will just trade their future 1st into this year.
 
There’s talk that this draft is pretty overrated.

I don’t know if it’s an overreaction or if that’s even the right word. But there’s a feeling that even though there’s a lot of depth in this draft, it’s hardly a super draft.


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It's a draft with alot of good players depth wise, but no super star stand outs.
 
One of the biggest question for the draft is if both Lalor and Finn are gone 1 and 2, who does Carlton take?
The next two rated picks would be Jagger Smith and Sam Draper, and from all accounts Carltons number 1 hope is for Finn to be there at their pick.
 
Lol. Why would we trade pick 2 for LESS than what it's worth?

Normally you would have to pay a bit of a premium to upgrade from 6 to 2. However given this draft is more even than usual, then it's reasonable to trade based on even points. If you go by the revised draft points system beginning next year, 6 and 10 or 6 and 11 is right in that ballpark. 6 and 18 is a flat out joke.

There's still a big difference between pick 2 and 6, even in this draft. Pick 2, you get whoever you want. Pick 6, you get whoever is left.

Let it go. You won't convince anyone. In such a flat top end, the difference between 2 and 6 is negligible. There is only bragging rights in having that pick, you won't get a fundamentally better player
 
What about Ollie Wines?

Would be comical if North traded down for Tauru only for Dees to ping him at 5 instead.
Again - how far back do you want to go? I thought 10-11 years was plenty - and i thought you would prefer to forget the Jimmy Toumpus draft!!

We would take Trainor.
 

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Let it go. You won't convince anyone. In such a flat top end, the difference between 2 and 6 is negligible. There is only bragging rights in having that pick, you won't get a fundamentally better player
Not true. There are different types of players in the draft, such as Sam Lalor, who is very different to Jagga Smith. If you have pick 2, you get to pick the type of player that you need more than another. For instance, Sam Lalor has alot more forward potential, and is more damaging on the scoreboard than Sam Draper is.
 
Not true. There are different types of players in the draft, such as Sam Lalor, who is very different to Jagga Smith. If you have pick 2, you get to pick the type of player that you need more than another. For instance, Sam Lalor has alot more forward potential, and is more damaging on the scoreboard than Sam Draper is.
yeah plus clear top 5 imo is lalor, FOS, Jagga, Draper and Langford

then a gap to the next rung
 
Not true. There are different types of players in the draft, such as Sam Lalor, who is very different to Jagga Smith. If you have pick 2, you get to pick the type of player that you need more than another. For instance, Sam Lalor has alot more forward potential, and is more damaging on the scoreboard than Sam Draper is.
Yes good post. This is exactly how the teams will look at it as well.
 
Not true. There are different types of players in the draft, such as Sam Lalor, who is very different to Jagga Smith. If you have pick 2, you get to pick the type of player that you need more than another. For instance, Sam Lalor has alot more forward potential, and is more damaging on the scoreboard than Sam Draper is.
Sid Draper
 
I don't see why Richmond would trade any of their first four picks for pick 2. They have an awesome hand. Just use it.
 
One of the biggest question for the draft is if both Lalor and Finn are gone 1 and 2, who does Carlton take?
The next two rated picks would be Jagger Smith and Sam Draper, and from all accounts Carltons number 1 hope is for Finn to be there at their pick.
Jagga Smith?
I love Langford but they might think he's a bit too close to Cripps and covers ground like Walsh, so might opt for speed/point of difference
 
It's a draft with alot of good players depth wise, but no super star stand outs.

Exactly.

Most of the noise is just a batch of Richmond supporters + Jon Ralph proclaiming it the best draft of all time because of their draft hand.

Pure hopium.

There's a massive pool of first round worthy talent.

But some posters are absolutely kidding themselves if they think the likes of FOS/Lalor would go anywhere near some of the recent top midfield prospects of the last 6-7 drafts.

FOS had a terrific bottom age year, but so did most of the best prospects of the last decade and Lalor has more than a few question marks that most others haven't had since probably Rayner.

Ashcroft and Smith are probably the only two who've had worthy #1 years on paper.

It's shallow at the top, but deep in the middle of the first round for probably another 20 selections. Which is what makes it such a well rated draft.
 
Exactly.

Most of the noise is just a batch of Richmond supporters + Jon Ralph proclaiming it the best draft of all time because of their draft hand.

Pure hopium.

There's a massive pool of first round worthy talent.

But some posters are absolutely kidding themselves if they think the likes of FOS/Lalor would go anywhere near some of the recent top midfield prospects of the last 6-7 drafts.

FOS had a terrific bottom age year, but so did most of the best prospects of the last decade and Lalor has more than a few question marks that most others haven't had since probably Rayner.

Ashcroft and Smith are probably the only two who've had worthy #1 years on paper.

It's shallow at the top, but deep in the middle of the first round for probably another 20 selections. Which is what makes it such a well rated draft.
It's a super draft, but any claims of Super-Draft (TM) is pure pandering BS. As with any drafting, you can only tell with hindsight, and then you claim you knew it all along and everyone else was stupid for not believing this absolute certainty
 
"It's not a super draft!" cry those without a pick until the 50s!

"The top end's not that good!" cry those who know they're trading out pick 2.

If they want that they will just trade their future 1st into this year.
They tried that last week and couldn't get pick 13 for it.

Everyone wants in on this draft, hence future picks were going like Mars Bars on Halloween.

Who's going to give up a good pick for North's F1? No one in the top 10. Not Richmond at 11 (unless pick 2 is involved), West Coast at 12 or Port at 13. Freo didn't fight to get pick 14 so they could trade it. The Giants at 15/16 maybe, but with the number of players they've just lost, they need to bring talent in. Dogs at 17 won't. Then we're back to Richmond at 18 (see pick 11). Sydney has 19 but they're looking to trade up, not out. Tiges again at 20, GWS again at 21 - maybe they do it here.

Do North trade their F1 for 21? Giving them 2, 21, 62 and no future first? Is that better than trading 2 for say 6 & 20, giving them 6, 20, 62 and a future first? If they get the man they want at 6 anyway?

yeah plus clear top 5 imo is lalor, FOS, Jagga, Draper and Langford

then a gap to the next rung
Smillie > Jagga
 

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