Rumour Draft Rumours 2024

[blaisee]

I reckon Nths pick 2 gets traded, 100%

Just a matter of to whom

 

[Ura]

Hence pick 3 getting traded for a lower than normal price and a fair chance that pick 2 will also.

I dont disagree. For me I think clubs are moreso undervaluing F1 due to depth of this draft. I didnt hate trade for Eagles. 2 senior players and frist round pick. Daniels on for North not great value for us but we are desperate for leaders and a certain age bracket.
For me I dont remember being less convinced of a top end since 2020 and that was due to exposure. For me Smith only "safe" pick but has holes.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

North give: 2 and F2
Richmond give: 18 and 23
St Kilda give: 7 and F1

North receive 7, 18, 23
Richmond receive: F1 (St Kilda)
St Kilda receive: F1 (North)
Carlton receive: Pick 2

Am I doing this right?

 

[tigs2010]

In your position, getting a pick that's probably 5-10 in 2025 for like pick 18 this year, when you're already one list spot short for your draft hand, would appear to be pretty good business to me.

We are only 1 list spot short if we sign Dow again on top of the contract we just signed him to...

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Yea, I guess, if that is the case

What do you think about the options offered ?

I think we end up keeping 2 to be honest and trading in from next year. We've been pretty clear we would flirt with a small downgrade and with our current top preferences I think that was a message to the Crows.

 

[tigs2010]

North give: 2 and F2
Richmond give: 18 and 23
St Kilda give: 7 and F1

North receive 7, 18, 23
Richmond receive: F1 (St Kilda)
St Kilda receive: F1 (North)
Carlton receive: Pick 2

Am I doing this right?

Wonder how many take this as inside word

 

[blaisee]

I think we end up keeping 2 to be honest and trading in from next year. We've been pretty clear we would flirt with a small downgrade and with our current top preferences I think that was a message to the Crows.

fair enough

I would too if I was Nth

Take FOS, Keep F1 for the talls next year

Just do not think that will happen

 

[Kangas_11]

North give: 2 and F2
Richmond give: 18 and 23
St Kilda give: 7 and F1

North receive 7, 18, 23
Richmond receive: F1 (St Kilda)
St Kilda receive: F1 (North)
Carlton receive: Pick 2

Am I doing this right?

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Well, yeah. You have very little flexibility in the asset you trade. It's pick 2 and/or your F1. The latter will only get you one pick late in the first round.

I don't assume we will only work with the Tigers on this but I also don't assume the clubs consider a likely top 5 pick a dead asset. We might draft at 2 and trade the F2 in for a club not loving it between 25-35. We'll have prospects all through the draft we can enjoy and still take a stud with 2.

 

[sr36]

I dont disagree. For me I think clubs are moreso undervaluing F1 due to depth of this draft. I didnt hate trade for Eagles. 2 senior players and frist round pick. Daniels on for North not great value for us but we are desperate for leaders and a certain age bracket.
For me I dont remember being less convinced of a top end since 2020 and that was due to exposure. For me Smith only "safe" pick but has holes.

I think next year they're projecting a lot of academy kids, so a lot of first round picks in the 20s.

 

[THE_GUN]

What would Richmond fans want for pick 1?

Well thats a question that has only 1 answer - Not for trade

With the amount of picks Richmond have and where they are placed there is no team that has an offer to entice a trade
Only because we have so many picks (8) inside the first round and dont need any more picks
so diluting is not required. But if we only had #1 + #62 that would be a different situation as we would be desperate for more picks.

Its a shame Richmond knocked back #2 + F1 for #6 +#11
that looked like a good deal

 

[swuzzlebubble]

If North trade back to 6 for Tarau, Melbourne might still take him at 5.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Interesting. So if the top 5 all keep their picks where they are, it sounds like:

1. Richmond - Lalor
2. North - O'Sullivan
3. Carlton - Draper
4. Adelaide - Langford
5. Melbourne - Jagga? Reid? Tauru?

With an Ashcroft bid and match in there somewhere.

There was some talk flying about yesterday through some North folk that Draper is our guy at 2 (which probably doesn't hurt the Blues, they'll be just grabbing the one that slips).

 

[Ura]

I think next year they're projecting a lot of academy kids, so a lot of first round picks in the 20s.

Agre but F1 like Norths and Eagles which are likely top 5 will only be affected as much as this years currently.

 

[Makeshift Park]

We're not one list spot short, the journo made a mistake.

Ah ok, if that's the case, fair play. Pretty easily checkable mistake to go to print.

 

[Bevoman]

Carlton before I was a glimmer in my dad’s eye have had a love for South Australians. I expect us to draft Draper if FOS is off the board especially due to his elite speed and agility

Yep, in no particular order the first six picked will be: Tauru, Smith, O’Sullivan, Lalor, Ashcroft, Langford, Draper,
Where I predict North to trade their pick 2 for take 6 + 18 meaning:
Tigers take FOS and Lalor.
Blues grab Draper.
Crows... Probably Smith. Langford? Smillie?
Dees are keen on Reid?
Roos take Tauru.

Saints grab Smilie and Reid at 8 & 9.
Leaving Bo Allen or Luke Trainor for a little later

 

[LB2Snake]

Difference this year is that we have a very good form line in Levi Ashcroft - he is considered better than his brother who just won the NS and he is only marginally considered number 1 - some consider others are better but have had interupted years. The top 7-8 inc Ashcroft are hard to rank.

Based on that form line the top 7-8 mids would be considered 'better than normal' good players.

I'm not sure Levi is considered better than Will is he? Levi really really good but Will was next level again I reckon. I watched a fair bit of both of them at BGS. Think they will both be great players though.

 

[G String]

Yep, in no particular order the first six picked will be: Tauru, Smith, O’Sullivan, Lalor, Ashcroft, Langford, Draper,
Where I predict North to trade their pick 2 for take 6 + 18 meaning:
Tigers take FOS and Lalor.
Blues grab Draper.
Crows... Probably Smith. Langford? Smillie?
Dees are keen on Reid?
Roos take Tauru.

Saints grab Smilie and Reid at 8 & 9.
Leaving Bo Allen or Luke Trainor for a little later

dont think the tiges will trade pick 6

 

[aussierulesrules]

But it wouldn't be Tauru by himself in any of these trade scenarios.

It'd be FOS or Draper or Jagga by themselves, versus the alternative.

Fair call, but they’d still only get Tauru with the one pick (eg 7) and you could potentially get both Whitlocks from the picks you could get for 7, so Tarau could still cost you the same as those two.

Unless there are two guys we really really love at 7 and 8 (if we keep them) I feel the same way about pick 8 in particular. I find it hard to imagine how you wouldn’t be better off with two swings at guys in even the late teens, than one swing at a guy at 8.

Especially if the one at 8 was going to be a running HBF, like Travaglia.

How is a running HBF worth two quality talls?

If it was a quality HBF v 2 quality talls at AFL level, there’s no way in the wide world that you’d pay twice the price for the HBF in a trade.

 

[LB2Snake]

Plus the bloke tigers want at 2 might be a decent chance of getting to 6.

 

[LB2Snake]

I don’t see why Richmond trying to get up to 2 without using 6 is “arrogant”, because they have more than enough other picks (by a long way) to be able to offer North sufficient value for the pick, without using 6.

And there’s no harm in asking. If their offer doesn’t suit what North want to do, they’re free to respond with the word “no”.

I mean I get it that North might have a big hard-on for Tarau, but would he really be better all by himself than say both Whitlocks, plus another guy they really like?

I think it’s perfectly fine and reasonable for Richmond to find out.

This looks like an amazing draft to stock up on key position players. The hit rate with them isn’t good, but if you could grab say 4 in the first 30, and two of them work out well, you’ve gotten two guys that are generally hard to get your hands on.

Brady Rawlings clearly stated we were happy to explore dropping back a "couple of picks" if it worked in our favour......for it to be "Richmond not prepared to use 6" does seem a little arrogant to me. But yeah sure, no harm in asking I guess....but that's not how it's been reported or portrayed.

 

[G String]

I'm not sure Levi is considered better than Will is he? Levi really really good but Will was next level again I reckon. I watched a fair bit of both of them at BGS. Think they will both be great players though.

from what I've heard he is yeah. He's been playing in the CTL since he was 15 (3x prem) - won the dragons BnF at 16.

 

[richoatthedisco]

I don't assume we will only work with the Tigers on this but I also don't assume the clubs consider a likely top 5 pick a dead asset. We might draft at 2 and trade the F2 in for a club not loving it between 25-35. We'll have prospects all through the draft we can enjoy and still take a stud with 2.

II'm not saying your F1 is a dead asset, just that the depth of this draft, the concentration of picks in the hands of a few and the scarcity of picks for others, and the bird in the hand principle will make it difficult for you to realise sticker value for it.

I highly doubt any team with a top-11 pick is trading it for your F1 without pick 2 being part of the deal. Then you run into West Coast, Port, Freo and the Dogs unlikely to trade out their only R1s. So it's GWS at 15/16 or us at 18, or you're looking at 20+.

I doubt you're getting a 25-35 pick for your F2. F2s are steak knives this year.

 

[LB2Snake]

Interesting. So if the top 5 all keep their picks where they are, it sounds like:

1. Richmond - Lalor
2. North - O'Sullivan
3. Carlton - Draper
4. Adelaide - Langford
5. Melbourne - Jagga? Reid? Tauru?

With an Ashcroft bid and match in there somewhere.

Crows will be all over Jagga IMO...I think Blues take him anyway if this scenario plays out

 

[LB2Snake]

from what I've heard he is yeah. He's been playing in the CTL since he was 15 (3x prem) - won the dragons BnF at 16.

Yeah I know. Mate he's a jet. Possibly you are right.