Rumour Draft Rumours 2024

[adonski]

Makepeacenotwar's tweets read more as fanfiction

 

[Trent the flight Steward]

Makepeacenotwar's tweets read more as fanfiction

Or he wants a job ad north's recruiter

 

[stavro#4]

Makepeacenotwar's tweets read more as fanfiction

No, he is just like anyone related to North who believe that’s the bounty pick 2 should get. (Won’t get)

The key bit of information is that he would have inside info at the Gippsland power.

Ex player. His boys are involved in the program and ex north Melbourne - who I’m sure they wheel out when required.

He is also coming from a point of concern as he wants Tauru at north.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Troy might have good mail as to Melbourne doing a lot of due diligence on Tauru, but for all he knows they’re doing it in case North keep 2 and draft say FOS, and Tauru makes it to 9.

Or if North split 2 for 2 or 3 picks after 9, and he’s available at 9.

 

[stavro#4]

Troy might have good mail as to Melbourne doing a lot of due diligence on Tauru, but for all he knows they’re doing it in case North keep 2 and draft say FOS, and Tauru makes it to 9.

Or if North split 2 for 2 or 3 picks after 9, and he’s available at 9.

So then it reaffirms that he will be off the board unless taken by pick 8.

So all the Richmond fans trying to get pick 2 for a cup of coffee and a muesli bar don’t actually help North achieve their goals

 

[Tommy Wigs]

They need mids, saints have plenty of flankers

Hallelujah! And still very possible one of the six get through

 

[T4P]

So then it reaffirms that he will be off the board unless taken by pick 8.

So all the Richmond fans trying to get pick 2 for a cup of coffee and a muesli bar don’t actually help North achieve their goals

It is a quality muesli bar though

 

[Tommy Wigs]

I reckon clubs would be too unsure of what it’s worth.

We were top 6 for all bar one week of the 2023 H&A season, and then once we re-grouped this year (after a brutal mix of significant injuries and a horror draw in the first 10 rounds), we won 8 of our last 12, and then 5 of our last 6. So for all they know, we’ll be that top 6 team again next year. Especially with another preseason into all the young ones.

On the other hand, we’ve cleared out a lot of our experienced depth, so if we get significant injuries again, we could be very vulnerable. We’re going to have a heap of “kids” on our list.

So our range could be anywhere from 6-ish to bottom 4.

But very few would consider the ceiling being anywhere near that high.

 

[stavro#4]

It is a quality muesli bar though

Maybe.

Does mean P6 would need to be on the table in any event

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Are they…? Love to know where you get the idea of Smillie being the one tigers want?
Because I’ve heard or seen absolutely nothing from Richmond about what they want. This might be exactly what Richmond would want North to do?

No matter how many different ways you dissect the first 30 picks. Richmond hold all the cards on how it plays out.

McGowan is where it comes from. But Twomey also mentioned it too IIRC. At least in passing that Richmond could “beat” St Kilda to him.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

It relates to the "wow." To me it's not even remotely surprising that Tigers aren't willing to trade pick 6 and 24 for Jagger Smith, or whoever they see as number 2.

...you know they weren't necessarily mentioning those picks in a trade together, right? They could be entirely separate.

They'll be aiming to turn 24 into a future first. That's a lot to pay for the difference between 2 highly rated youngsters. You'd have to see a big difference in them as prospects.

Which is perfectly possible when we're talking the difference between pick 2 and pick 6-7. To not see a big difference means they rate Smillie a lot.

 

[aussierulesrules]

So then it reaffirms that he will be off the board unless taken by pick 8.

Unless it’s a red-herring. That’s the other possibility.

So all the Richmond fans trying to get pick 2 for a cup of coffee and a muesli bar don’t actually help North achieve their goals

They could get him if he’s still available at 8 and they trade back up to there using some combo of the picks they get from Richmond.

Remembering that they’re not just after Tauru (supposedly), but also another pick in the top 25 or whatever.

 

[Rich01]

Not really sure why Richmond aren’t all over Saints F1. Surely they wont take all of their 20 odd picks in this one draft.

It will probably be on offer at the end of the first night of the draft, as well as a few other offers. If it’s the best one, I’m sure they will look to trade 24 for it.

 

[aussierulesrules]

But very few would consider the ceiling being anywhere near that high.

Most wouldn’t think the ceiling would be as high as it was for the last 12 rounds of this past season and for 2023 as a whole?

I reckon the clubs (who know way more about what’s going on than the average nuffy), would. Especially if they’re contemplating such an important move.

It’s not exactly a stretch.

Even our first half of the year was generally very commendable, under the circumstances.

Way short of full strength most of the time, midfield in particular decimated, 5 of our first 9 games interstate or in Geelong, at least one and possibly two 5 day breaks in that time, and ZERO genuine home ground advantage games in the first 9!

Yet we lost 5 of those 6 games we lost in that stretch by 10 points or less. Including GWS up north, Geelong at Geelong, Port in Adelaide, Hawthorn in Tassie and Essendon when they were decent.

A genuinely crap team would have been blown away under those circumstances.

 

[Chip Scab1]

Wouldn’t happen mate. I don’t think it through. There’s no advantage for the saints to move from 7 to 6 (same mids available as Tauru isn’t going ahead of us at 6). And we slip from 8 to 11.

Well good luck, I would have thought we would be ones to say no, but there you go.

If thats the case then why are you even talking to North - just shut them down. Richmond are holding out for Smillie as they know they can get him without moving and thats fair enough. They must rate someone else a little higher as why else would they be stringing North along.

North shot themselves in the foot with what they give up in the Daniel trade and are desparate to get back into the draft. Giving up #25 for a vertically challenged HBF was a disgraceful decision in my view. But clubs/coaches who have been down for so long become desparate for the sort term fix and that was this situation.

Whilst I agree, he was contracted; I would have walked away but Clarko wanted him and our kicking from defence is easily the worst in the league. He is clean and one grab, albeit minute.

FOS. And completely agree re: North and Daniel. It's the worst trade in a few years.

LOL CCJ, Hay, Polec all run 2nd to using the Bell outcome on Hale, Ash Watson and Rodney Crowe in a super super draft (2001). Wouldn't even be a podium finish, for us haha

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

Bolton is Fyfes replacement. Fyfe capitulated last year and had to move to a defensive midfield role when idea was him to be more offensive.

Walters is a stay at home forward for 100 percent of the game so needs a different replacement

Im my opinion when Walters was out towards the end of the year Sturt played a very similar role to Walters in that he spent time playing high up the ground. I think our forward pressure which was terrible in the last 4 games suffered by Sturt playing that role compared to Walters even though Sturt has improved a ton. If Sturt can have a full preseason for the first time then I think he's primed to play the high forward role at a high level.

 

[Wild Bill]

I reckon this will be the first round
1 Lalor tigers
2 ashcroft lions
3 osullivan tigers
4 Langford blues
5 Draper crows
6 reid dees
7 Smith tigers
8 smillie saints
9 travaligia saints
10 Lombard sun's
11 armstrong dees
12 tauru North
13 kako bombers
14 hotton tigers
15 Allan wce
16 Whitlock port
17 trainor freo
18 Lindsay gws
19 Berry gws
20 hynes dogs
21 shanahan North
22 dattoli swans
23 Whitlock North

I did think Langford would drop but if osullivan is gone he's their best fit in the middle to complement walsh cripps, cerra

So we trade 2 for 11, 21 & 23?

 

[Danog]

LOL CCJ, Hay, Polec all run 2nd to using the Bell outcome on Hale, Ash Watson and Rodney Crowe in a super super draft (2001). Wouldn't even be a podium finish, for us haha

"in a few years"

 

[LB2Snake]

So we trade 2 for 11, 21 & 23?

We deserve to be laughed out of the league if we agree to that.

 

[stavro#4]

Unless it’s a red-herring. That’s the other possibility.


They could get him if he’s still available at 8 and they trade back up to there using some combo of the picks they get from Richmond.

Remembering that they’re not just after Tauru (supposedly), but also another pick in the top 25 or whatever.

Sure, I’ll play along here.

Norths hand is 2 and 62.

What do you think they are going to get for 2 and how many of those pieces do you think they’ll then trade to us for 8?

Hypothetically speaking if they got 13+15 for 2. What are they sending us?

It doesn’t work. They won’t get a bounty for pick 2 that they will then trade with us to secure the talent.

Which is why any of those pick swap orgies that people like to include us in to facilitate their hypotheticals will not work.

If north want Tauru and right now you take it on face value and say they do.

Then only pick 6 for Richmond or our offer achieves that.

If they care more about trading pick 2 for a few mid- first rounders, then it will be funny to laugh at the north fans who probably sat back and took the absolute piss out of those eagle fans.

I’m not sure north are pathetic enough that they apparently can’t go find a trade for our future first in the first round this year. But that’s just my thoughts.

 

[Wild Bill]

Sure, I’ll play along here.

Norths hand is 2 and 62.

What do you think they are going to get for 2 and how many of those pieces do you think they’ll then trade to us for 8?

Hypothetically speaking if they got 13+15 for 2. What are they sending us?

It doesn’t work. They won’t get a bounty for pick 2 that they will then trade with us to secure the talent.

Which is why any of those pick swap orgies that people like to include us in to facilitate their hypotheticals will not work.

If north want Tauru and right now you take it on face value and say they do.

Then only pick 6 for Richmond or our offer achieves that.

If they care more about trading pick 2 for a few mid- first rounders, then it will be funny to laugh at the north fans who probably sat back and took the absolute piss out of those eagle fans.

I’m not sure north are pathetic enough that they apparently can’t go find a trade for our future first in the first round this year. But that’s just my thoughts.

What if the offer is pathetic? We should just take it?

 

[stavro#4]

What if the offer is pathetic? We should just take it?

I think everyone is of the assumption you won’t have pick 2.

Either way you won’t get a bounty for p2 or your F1 and your fanbase believes you will.

 

[Trent the flight Steward]

We deserve to be laughed out of the league if we agree to that.

Well its 10 18 and 20. North have a plethora of early picks that are midfielder. They should be trying to get 3 first round picks to actually have a balanced list

 

[stavro#4]

Pick 3 trade value: Matt Owies, picks 12, 14 and 73

Pick 9 trade value: F1 + picks 28, 40, 46, 54 and 65

 

[Chip Scab1]

"in a few years"

I answered your question, provided some historical evidence too. Do you need more? CCJ trade, Polec, Hay are all much worse than Daniel. Yes we overpaid, but it doesn't run a drum in our 'worst ever' masterclass.