Traded Dylan Shiel [traded with future 2nd to Essendon for #9 and future 1st round pick]

[cdcanman]

I've said it before, if he tells the club he wants out, the only real question is whether they can get a return that is better or equivalent to what they would get via FA compensation next year.
That being said, Hawthorns pick 14 isn't that far from the mark. GWS will have to be thinking that they will be a top 6 side or better next season. Any compensation pick they are likely to receive is unlikely to be much better than that. So pick 14 plus something would need to put Hawthorn at least in the ballpark of being acceptable. Lock in known assets now, versus unknown assets next year.
The 'other clubs can give us a better offer' argument just doesn't hold water in the AFL context. GWS can't send a player to a club he doesn't agree to go to. Unless he was to say 'get me to Victoria and I don't care which club', which I just can't see happening. If you had an opportunity to choose your employer, and the rules allow you to do this, why wouldn't you? Why would you allow someone else to determine your future? It's just unrealistic.

 

[Benj7]

I reckon it'll be Hawks.

I would think pick 14 is good enough.

 

[Roughies Boys]

It's an interesting one. It seems like Hawthorn, Essendon and Carlton are the contenders. Conventional wisdom would suggest Hawthorn and Essendon have the best shot.

Hawthorn could get tied up sorting out appropriate compensation for GWS and Carlton is going to have its hands full with McGovern.

I feel like Essendon can most easily satisfy GWS.

Does that matter though, if Shiel picks Hawks, they will try to get a deal done, if that falls through then he stays at Giants.

 

[Roughies Boys]

Pick 14 & a Future 2nd rounder.

 

[kazzooka]

This is getting interesting.. seen posts from 'itk's from both carlton and hawks who say they are getting shiel

someones gona be wrong ;o

The only good sources in these situations is those close to the player. Everyone at GWS knew they were getting buddy, many at Sydney knew he was going to GWS and had no clue their club was even interested. But people close to Buddy knew.

Stuart Dew was an assistant at Sydney and heard via Jarryd Roughead about Buddy and had to ask horse if it was true, Longmire tried to deflect and laugh it off until Dew told him his source. Others at Sydney bar 3-4 found out the same day the public did.

 

[DapperJong]

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Yeah but why?

 

[kazzooka]

He is 25, he will easily be in his 30’s before Carlton are anywhere near it

Might be in his 60's before Carlton turn it around.

 

[kazzooka]

How do they get it done? Assuming pick 14 isn't enough.

Can they trade a 2019 1st rounder?

Rumour I heard is it will be 14 + Ceglar (with Hawthorn covering some of his pay) for Shiel. Being Hawthorn there will likely be a shuffle of second rounders so that everyone is happy.

 

[Colonial]

The only good sources in these situations is those close to the player. Everyone at GWS knew they were getting buddy, many at Sydney knew he was going to GWS and had no clue their club was even interested. But people close to Buddy knew.

Stuart Dew was an assistant at Sydney and heard via Jarryd Roughead about Buddy and had to ask horse if it was true, Longmire tried to deflect and laugh it off until Dew told him his source. Others at Sydney bar 3-4 found out the same day the public did.

No. No we didnt "know" we were getting buddy
Lots of talk but no absolutes.

Hell there was arguments on our board leading up to the trade about wether he is coming and wether we wanted him.

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[Kingofthehill]

Other than the vibe, why do we think he's going to Hawthorn?
Is it because their supporters type with such 'confidence' or has there been something I've missed?

 

[Colonial]

Rumour I heard is it will be 14 + Ceglar (with Hawthorn covering some of his pay) for Shiel. Being Hawthorn there will likely be a shuffle of second rounders so that everyone is happy.

Again with Ceglar.

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[Roughies Boys]

Again with Ceglar.

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Not sure why you'd knock Cegs back to be honest. Your list doesn't exactly have a decent ruckman, or actually have rucks.

North trying to keep Preuss.

 

[Colonial]

Not sure why you'd knock Cegs back to be honest. Your list doesn't exactly have a decent ruckman, or actually have rucks.

North trying to keep Preuss.

Many reasons.

But for starters I watched his last game.



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[Roughies Boys]

Many reasons.

But for starters I watched his last game.



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I'd be honest, he shouldn't have been playing especially as McEvoy was playing. Weather was horrible aswell especially going in with two ruckman, but he's been a good target. His tap work is decent, better than McEvoy's. Was terrific prior to his knee reco.

 

[Colonial]

I'd be honest, he shouldn't have been playing especially as McEvoy was playing. Weather was horrible aswell especially going in with two ruckman, but he's been a good target. His tap work is decent, better than McEvoy's. Was terrific prior to his knee reco.

If we are only going off tap work we already have Dawson.

I cant see him being part of any trade for Shiel

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[Roughies Boys]

If we are only going off tap work we already have Dawson.

I cant see him being part of any trade for Shiel

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Ceglar provides an option around the ground & does not just mope around like Dawson.

 

[Colonial]

Ceglar provides an option around the ground & does not just mope around like Dawson.

That's nice.

But we will take your 1st rounders instead thanks.

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[DapperJong]

But for starters I watched his last game.

I mean, Dyl's last game was probably on par....

 

[Roughies Boys]

That's nice.

But we will take your 1st rounders instead thanks.

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That's not your decision to make.

 

[Buzzasto DaSilva]

(stop making up shit)
What I said was, I was told by someone ages ago.

Of course you were

Just like North had a hundred people "in the know" last year who confirmed Kelly was off to them.

If Shiel requests to go to Hawthorn, I'll walk backwards to Dingley.

 

[Colonial]

I mean, Dyl's last game was probably on par....

Not even close. But yes not his best game.

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[Goats]

Seems strange you'd offer him close to 1millpa then, doesn't it?

Not sure what any decisions made by the HFC have to do with my opinion on Dylan Shiels.

Are you one of those supporters that believe you're more than just a customer of the AFL club you support? Assuming you're a member.

 

[citizen-erased]

Not sure why you'd knock Cegs back to be honest. Your list doesn't exactly have a decent ruckman, or actually have rucks.

North trying to keep Preuss.

Lobb
Simpson as backup
Flynn developing
Pretty sure they have an awesome kid coming through the academy this year (Could be mistaken)

There are rucks to be had without giving up Shiel for Ceglar and a late 1st rd pick.

Shiel doesn't strike me as the player to tell GWS to send him to one club and one club only.
Could very well see a case whereby he says send me to Hawks or Essendon, or i'll stay.

 

[DapperJong]

Not even close. But yes not his best game.

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He was shit.

 

[Colonial]

That's not your decision to make.

Oh. I thought you were trying to sell me him.

Fairly sure earlier in the thread a Hawks fan posted the Giants had already knocked Ceglar back as being part of a trade.

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