EDFL Premier Division 2014

[puffpuffgivemo]

Puffpuffgivemo could you please provide some examples of how clubs are being more wiser in raising revenue?

The Gorilla Group is one key development in recent years which is akin to a coterie group.

Sensational initiative that generates significant income through our supporters - how it works and who supports I guess is our business because I'd be giving away the hard work of those who've developed it and those of us who support it.

Other key initiatives involve match day activations around food & beverage i.e. using our sponsors such as Squires Loft to provide a premium food & beverage experience in addition to your traditional presidents luncheons.

Our rebrand, marketing, Gorilla Awards/Raffles and merchandise are a few others.

The other key that helps is having onfield success with our junior and senior football programs.

Not sure if there the sort of answers you were looking for.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

The Gorilla Group is one key development in recent years which is akin to a coterie group.

Sensational initiative that generates significant income through our supporters - how it works and who supports I guess is our business because I'd be giving away the hard work of those who've developed it and those of us who support it.

Other key initiatives involve match day activations around food & beverage i.e. using our sponsors such as Squires Loft to provide a premium food & beverage experience in addition to your traditional presidents luncheons.

Our rebrand, marketing, Gorilla Awards/Raffles and merchandise are a few others.

The other key that helps is having onfield success with our junior and senior football programs.

Not sure if there the sort of answers you were looking for.

Top post and this is the difference between the clubs that have it and those that sit back and whinge, clubs like Abers work hard to create an environment where people with means want to be part of it and are prepared to contribute along the way. The days of meat raffles and funding the side with canteen sales are long gone.

 

[shagshouli]

A week until the big dance.
Any reviews of the AB vAV game and tips for this week.

 

[LFDE BACKWARDS]

The Gorilla Group is one key development in recent years which is akin to a coterie group.

Sensational initiative that generates significant income through our supporters - how it works and who supports I guess is our business because I'd be giving away the hard work of those who've developed it and those of us who support it.

Other key initiatives involve match day activations around food & beverage i.e. using our sponsors such as Squires Loft to provide a premium food & beverage experience in addition to your traditional presidents luncheons.

Our rebrand, marketing, Gorilla Awards/Raffles and merchandise are a few others.

The other key that helps is having onfield success with our junior and senior football programs.

Not sure if there the sort of answers you were looking for.

Heard 100 people tip in a grand each?
If that's called marketing or branding, OK??? The club sits smack in the middle of a wealthy area and good luck to them. Take that 100k away and you do the same as rest of top 4-5 clubs.

 

[gv jetset]

gv jetset, are you suggesting Avondale lay down against Keilor to stop your club getting into finals?

Footy God acts fast these days.Karma complete. Job well done Abers.

 

[THRU DA LINES]

Footy God acts fast these days.Karma complete. Job well done Abers.

Ridiculous view. The facts are that Abers were too good for Avondale yesterday, were favoured to win and won well, Keilor were good enough to beat Avondale in last round (needed to make finals to measure their season a success and had more to play for) and Greenvale were not good enough this year....all year and when they needed to win last round against Marby, a side battling for relegation, the JUST got the job done but it wasn't enough and they are now middle of the road but with the ability to move up next year if they make the right decisions.

 

[BlueJet]

Ridiculous view. The facts are that Abers were too good for Avondale yesterday, were favoured to win and won well, Keilor were good enough to beat Avondale in last round (needed to make finals to measure their season a success and had more to play for) and Greenvale were not good enough this year....all year and when they needed to win last round against Marby, a side battling for relegation, the JUST got the job done but it wasn't enough and they are now middle of the road but with the ability to move up next year if they make the right decisions.

It is understandable that a few eyebrows were raised about Keilor getting up (rightly or wrongly) as they struggled mightily both before and after that clash against other contenders.
As previously stated though, Greenvale had their chances but couldn't get it done. Making excuses does nothing to change that.
Finally if you think that a fully fit Greenvale side is a middle of the road unit, I question your judgement a little..

 

[THRU DA LINES]

It is understandable that a few eyebrows were raised about Keilor getting up (rightly or wrongly) as they struggled mightily both before and after that clash against other contenders.
As previously stated though, Greenvale had their chances but couldn't get it done. Making excuses does nothing to change that.
Finally if you think that a fully fit Greenvale side is a middle of the road unit, I question your judgement a little..

My judgement on The Jets is a fair one. I didn't say a fully fit Jets is middle of raod, That is, all sides have injuries that affect results but the bottom line is that they finished 5th out of 10 teams. Very surprising when you take into account that they won the flag the year before and were expected to do better but the end of season results do not lie.

 

[BlueJet]

My judgement on The Jets is a fair one. I didn't say a fully fit Jets is middle of raod, That is, all sides have injuries that affect results but the bottom line is that they finished 5th out of 10 teams. Very surprising when you take into account that they won the flag the year before and were expected to do better but the end of season results do not lie.

You're right the ladder doesn't lie.
Greenvale had a horror run with injuries etc.. I'm not sure if any other sides had a comparable run in this regard.
With it being a good tight competition this year all it takes is a 5% drop off for premiership contenders to lose to sides closer to the bottom. Hopefully next season serves up more of the same.
Anyways debating could'ves and would'ves is all kind of pointless.
Is anyone able to give a thorough wrap of yesterday's final?

 

[LFDE BACKWARDS]

You're right the ladder doesn't lie.
Greenvale had a horror run with injuries etc.. I'm not sure if any other sides had a comparable run in this regard.
With it being a good tight competition this year all it takes is a 5% drop off for premiership contenders to lose to sides closer to the bottom. Hopefully next season serves up more of the same.
Anyways debating could'ves and would'ves is all kind of pointless.
Is anyone able to give a thorough wrap of yesterday's final?

Thru Da Lines analysis will be interesting. For mine, hate to sound like a broken record...3 goal kickers AGAIN.
Enough said.

 

[THRU DA LINES]

Thru Da Lines analysis will be interesting. For mine, hate to sound like a broken record...3 goal kickers AGAIN.
Enough said.

Watched the prelim on Saturday. Referring to goal scoring stats doesn't give you the full story. Only scoring 6 goals for the day reflects not being good enough in a number of areas. No doubt that goal scorers were part of their problem but the problem appeared deeper than that. Abers were too fast, kicked with precision with little pressure and were far more disciplined. Avondale turned the ball over too much made errors from Aberfeldie's pressure that forced turnovers. Abers ran to space into the forward 50 which gave them more scoring opportunities. Avondale were going forward under pressure from Abers and couldn't set up with the ball coming straight out with Abers on a quick break rebound. Obviously, stats don't lie. Avondale had less goal kickers than other top sides and could not beat top teams around them in finals. Their forward setup is way different than other teams with an investment in good forwards that can kick goals and teammates kick to them rather than to goals.

 

[puffpuffgivemo]

Heard 100 people tip in a grand each?
If that's called marketing or branding, OK??? The club sits smack in the middle of a wealthy area and good luck to them. Take that 100k away and you do the same as rest of top 4-5 clubs.

Is the 100 at $1K each a statement of question?

How does your "sits smack in the middle of a wealthy area compare with Greenvale"

Greenvale as a suburb/town is arguably a new area compared to Aberfeldie/Essendon yet as a
sporting club is just as successful.

Greenvale's success has come from the work of its board, sponsors and supporting families.

That club has been able to raise money, work with council and their partners to do things like develop a successful culture, recreation reserve, build and maintain additional ovals and things like electronic scoreboards.

The point you've made is a lazy one at best and I'd back in clubs like Abers and Greenvale have grown due to the hard work of their people not simply because of their location!!

 

[My North]

how many flags for Abers this Saturday 0, 1, 2 or 3. My tip is 2 out of 3.

The abers gorilla group have placed order for fireworks, marquee tents on the oval, and food drink stands once again, will the abers faithful people show up depends on the senior result.

 

[FootyRUs]

how many flags for Abers this Saturday 0, 1, 2 or 3. My tip is 2 out of 3.

The abers gorilla group have placed order for fireworks, marquee tents on the oval, and food drink stands once again, will the abers faithful people show up depends on the senior result.

2 out of 3 only half the answer - which 2 sides will win?

Have to say a great effort by Abers to get 3 teams into the GF. Their u/16s also won the GF so whatever the outcome on Saturday, you could argue a case for Abers to be the no.1 club in the EDFL. And I am not from the club either, just an observation.

I lean towards only the 1 win on Saturday - the seniors and that is not with confidence. Greenvale reserves and u/18s have been fantastic all year and go into the GF as deserverdly warm favourites.

The seniors should be an absolute cracker and both teams close to full strength? No T. Hyslop on Saturday, will he be back for the GF?

 

[Stax on the mill]

Did Kefford play for Abers on Saturday? He was mentioned in the twitter feed as being involved in a passage of play. However I notice he doesn't appear in Abers team list on EDFL website. Is that one the official team list?

 

[gv jetset]

Ridiculous view. The facts are that Abers were too good for Avondale yesterday, were favoured to win and won well, Keilor were good enough to beat Avondale in last round (needed to make finals to measure their season a success and had more to play for) and Greenvale were not good enough this year....all year and when they needed to win last round against Marby, a side battling for relegation, the JUST got the job done but it wasn't enough and they are now middle of the road but with the ability to move up next year if they make the right decisions.

What is ridiculous is that a team can manage a total of 10 goals in 200 minutes either side of their clash with Avondale. That formline doesn't equate. What is also ridiculous is to suggest that a defending back to back premier suddenly becomes middle of the road. It certainly wasn't a hangover. Avondale should have considered that with Greenvale in the finals they might have been a better chance than Keilor of eliminating Abers. Avondale had two strong wins over the Jets in 2014

 

[keenwatcher]

Heard 100 people tip in a grand each?
If that's called marketing or branding, OK??? The club sits smack in the middle of a wealthy area and good luck to them. Take that 100k away and you do the same as rest of top 4-5 clubs.

The wealth line must be south of Buckley Street, and west of Poyntons Nursery.

Bad luck to Douttas and marby for missing out on the wealth area dispite being in the same post code.

 

[keenwatcher]

What is ridiculous is that a team can manage a total of 10 goals in 200 minutes either side of their clash with Avondale. That formline doesn't equate. What is also ridiculous is to suggest that a defending back to back premier suddenly becomes middle of the road. It certainly wasn't a hangover. Avondale should have considered that with Greenvale in the finals they might have been a better chance than Keilor of eliminating Abers. Avondale had two strong wins over the Jets in 2014

Anyone that thinks avondale rolled over vs keilor wasnt at that game.

i was there hoping keilor would loose so i could watch jets vs abers. Avondale lost because of poor goal kicking. missed a lot of running shots, and a crucial set shot directly in front in the last qtr. keilor took all their chances. End of story. Get over it.

 

[BlueJet]

Anyway.. enough sniping.
Well done Abers for getting themselves into their current position both on and off field. They've been building towards their current position for a while so credit to all involved down there.
The grand finals are shaping up to be cracking contests, hopefully weather is decent on the day.

 

[THRU DA LINES]

What is ridiculous is that a team can manage a total of 10 goals in 200 minutes either side of their clash with Avondale. That formline doesn't equate. What is also ridiculous is to suggest that a defending back to back premier suddenly becomes middle of the road. It certainly wasn't a hangover. Avondale should have considered that with Greenvale in the finals they might have been a better chance than Keilor of eliminating Abers. Avondale had two strong wins over the Jets in 2014

You are contradicting yourself. First you have this conspiracy theory that a team purposely let another team win, then you say that Avondale beat Greenvale twice. Why would a team purposely keep a team out that they beat twice? Also, what is the logic in letting a team beat you in the last round and going into a final series without momentum. Anyway, a team that finishes equal first wouldn't have been worried about a side that was in the bottom 6 all year and a side they beat twice as you say. Now that hopefully puts the silly notion about tanking to bed. I didn't see the Avondale Keilor game but from what I have heard it was tight all day. I watched Greenvale in last round against Marby and for a team with a lot to play for (even though Marby did too), the Jets struggled.) I agree Greenvale are a top club and side and the most successful over the last decade but sides have caught up to them this year and surpassed them. I watched them several times this year. Had no luck with injuries and players unavailable but that happens at all clubs. They have great depth and only need a top up at the top to be back in the top few. I don't think that Greenvale would have enjoyed being the fifth best side and will redirect some of their capital fund away from scoreboards, lights and other facilities to buying players and possibly a coach.

 

[puffpuffgivemo]

Did Kefford play for Abers on Saturday? He was mentioned in the twitter feed as being involved in a passage of play. However I notice he doesn't appear in Abers team list on EDFL website. Is that one the official team list?

No Al. Kefford as he only played one game this year.

That same twitter feed had T. Hislop kicking a goal too I think - must've been from the Northern Saints clash a month ago as they both played that weekend!

Worse still the @EDFLfooty twitter account retweeted both!!

 

[keenwatcher]

Is the 100 at $1K each a statement of question?

That club has been able to raise money, work with council and their partners to do things like develop a successful culture, recreation reserve, build and maintain additional ovals and things like electronic scoreboards.

The point you've made is a lazy one at best and I'd back in clubs like Abers and Greenvale have grown due to the hard work of their people not simply because of their location!!

These are because of Premier cricket moving to Greenvale.

 

[Stax on the mill]

No Al. Kefford as he only played one game this year.

That same twitter feed had T. Hislop kicking a goal too I think - must've been from the Northern Saints clash a month ago as they both played that weekend!

Worse still the @EDFLfooty twitter account retweeted both!!

Thanks for that puffpuffgivemo.

 

[Ldr Local Footy]

Ex-Bomber signs on with Doutta Stars - http://bit.ly/1nFqhxk

Good get!

 

[BlueJet]

These are because of Premier cricket moving to Greenvale.

The additional ovals etc were already in the pipeline before the merger with North Melb cricket club.
In any event the money still needs to come from somewhere and without the support of people involved in the club and the local council none of it would be going ahead.