Craig Hutchy
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Keogh from Marby is invited to the Reynolds 
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I've had a little stab in the dark at the Team of the Year. Obviously I don't see every game and most sides only twice. I've picked it as a balanced team to win a game. Everyone's team would be different so if you are putting someone in you have to take someone out.
B - Josh Toy. Ryan Allen. Nick Parthenopoulos
HB - Luke Jarrad. Luke Davis. Ben Ross.
C - Kane Barbuto. Jarryd Cachia. Caleb Vearing
HF - Alex Grima. Dean Galea. Robbie Castello.
F - Patty Rose. Jacob Thompson. Jack Landt.
R - Cam Wood. Will Martinello. Addam Maric.
INT - Fabian Deluca. Jamie Allan. Zac Keogh. Nat Caruso.
Coach - Paul Chapman.
Captain - Robbie Castello.
All probably unlucky IMO - Cubillo. Cravino. Soncin. Cornell. Browne. Pfieffer. Bzenic. Marklew. Cattapan. Horne. J.Williams.
PREMIERS : Aberfeldie
BOG : Cattapan.
Reynolds : Jarryd Cachia
B - Josh Toy. Ryan Allen. Nick Parthenopoulos
HB - Luke Jarrad. Luke Davis. Ben Ross.
C - Kane Barbuto. Jarryd Cachia. Caleb Vearing
HF - Alex Grima. Dean Galea. Robbie Castello.
F - Patty Rose. Jacob Thompson. Jack Landt.
R - Cam Wood. Will Martinello. Addam Maric.
INT - Fabian Deluca. Jamie Allan. Zac Keogh. Nat Caruso.
Coach - Paul Chapman.
Captain - Robbie Castello.
All probably unlucky IMO - Cubillo. Cravino. Soncin. Cornell. Browne. Pfieffer. Bzenic. Marklew. Cattapan. Horne. J.Williams.
PREMIERS : Aberfeldie
BOG : Cattapan.
Reynolds : Jarryd Cachia
Wasn't invited so can't win it
Thursday night of AFL GF week
Something is clearly wrong then lol. Keogh & cachia invited
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Gave all you boys the early mail back in March-April that the raging bull would win the comp medal. Who else got on? $$$
Cachia will win it easy. Gun and known vote getter.
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Bully didn't you get on mate. Would of had some spare cash prior to spring carnival..
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There are 30 clubs in the EDFL with only 4 clubs that can win the flag. Glenroy, Airport West, Tullamarine, Oak Park, Hillside and all the sides in Premier this year should be able to strive and win a flag in the next 5 years but it isn't going to happen. Now with points system and unrestricted junior club size, the EDFL has become a predictable bore like WRFL. (unless you follow one of the 4 clubs who can win it) The EDFL have a lot to answer for in not assisting equalization. Lets not throw out junior programs etc as the reason why these clubs are successful. There are over 3000 boys at junior age group within the Essendon education precinct that feed into the power clubs and the other clubs have far less boys in their community. Why do you think that AFL have an equalisation program? Look how interesting AFL has become. EDFL need someone either at board level or general management with vision, to project the future of EDFL for the betterment of the competition. We all have to agree that any club in the EDFL should be able to strive to be the best and have a realistic chance.
Can you just clarify for everyone who are the four clubs in your opinion. There are two clubs come to my mind who are outside of what you call the Essendon Education Precinct who have had recent success. One is chock full of juniors one not so much. One of these maybe no need turn up this Saturday as they are outside the "precinct" means they cant win the flag.
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Pretty sure every club has the opportunity to setup quality junior programs and entice players to come to their program? Pretty sure every club can get in as many juniors as the league allows. Pretty sure they all follow a points system and a salary cap. The big question is why do they choose these "power clubs"? Professionalism, success and quality. Rather than cry poor I think the lower clubs need to try and replicate these models of the successful clubs. And at some point they weren't always power clubs. How did they become that?
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That's the hard way. Why do that when they can just do it the easy way and get the league to cap juniors so that they can get the reward for other clubs hard work.
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Well said Thru. Certain clubs need assistance. Let's use an example of say Jacana going forward. Older club who have got some people back and built some momentum and got themselves a premiership to move up to div1. They seem to be moving in the right direction however in that area it's difficult to attract junior numbers. If I hear you right your asking for the EDFL and the AFL to give them some guidance and assistance to help get something going. Maybe even the AFL run some programs down there to try and entice juniors. Same at say Keilor Park. Can Essendon or Bulldogs offer them some assistance?? The AFL is a huge business and in my view don't do enough for local footy any more. AFL clubs and to precocious but they need to remember grass roots footy..
Clubs like Greenvale, Craigieburn, Hillside, Taylor's Lakes, Roxburg Park, Burnside have growth areas so they don't need assistance from outside..Just need to get the right people on board.
Strathmore, Keilor, Glenroy, Etc have newer facilities and seem to be going ok.
Abers have access to AFL players past and present and huge juniors.
Some others are not so fortunate and need some assistance and guidance..
I guess all clubs need some help and have questions,but some need more help than others. The resources are there if the AFL wants to help grass roots footy.,
Thoughts..
Your talking as if everyone knew there was a points system coming in !! When you bring in a NEW system , it has to be equal for all REGARDLESS of previous history and that's where the problem lies !!
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Aberfeldie, Strathmore, Marby (of recent times with U19's best side in comp and as a result in becoming a big club. Greenvale for different reasons have been hugely successful including having new housing estates that gave them large number of juniors. (in a similar way that Airport West, Tullamarine East Keilor and Avondale did in the 70's and 80's.) We are seeing a decline from juniors at Greenvale at the moment with no U19's and other junior teams not all playing Div.1. But a new estate will soon open up giving them a new wave of families. Keilor with their isolation from neighboring clubs also get a lot of juniors.
Once you then have multiple teams, it results in more interest from families to take their kids there and the gap continues to increase. Abers U17 and U15 won 60% of grand finals. That's not healthy. Don't get me wrong, these club do a good job with juniors but have an big advantage.
If AFL had not intervened 25-30 years ago with draft, equalization, priority for smaller clubs, a few wouldn't be around today. Even the zoning of years ago in AFL was not a level playing field so draft came in based on American Football and NBA system. Debate it all you like but league reward clubs with minor player points so it is not a level playing field. Take Abers for instance, with the implementation of U8 and now U9's, they have an additional 50 juniors as this new age group allowed them to increase junior teams from 15 to 19.
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Well correct me if I'm wrong but Abers only won one in the under 16s last year and none in the 14s. So has this only become an issue because of the success this year? It was virtually the same teams with the age group going up a year. So wouldn't the credit go back to Abers who worked hard on development? One year doesn't mean dominance for the next 20 years.
Other than pot everything wrong about minor clubs missing out, give some suggestions about how to fix these problems? I'm interested in how you would fix it.
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Pretty sure everyone has equal points?? How would you fix this to get equalisation?
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I'm not potting anyone.
Firstly, Abers had 3 U16 teams in U16 last year and 2 made the grand final. Check out which clubs have won U16 and U 17 in the last 20 years. Douttas (when they used to poach players with mobiles and playing kits and no membership costs) Abers, Strathmore, Keilor and Greenvale. Same clubs as seniors.
Not sure if you know, but there is a limit to how many junior teams a club can have at each age group which is currently 4. So there is regulation but not strict enough. Like my last post, 3 years ago when there were no U9 or U8, the big clubs would reach their quota of 4 x U10 teams and excess kids would float into adjoining clubs. Now there are an additional 50 kids at these large clubs who may have gone elsewhere playing U9's. Regulate the size of junior component of clubs to say, 3 teams in each age group from U9 to U15 and 2 at U 17. (This will help clubs whith their U19's which is a huge problem with league) . Kids taking up football would then go to a club which has not reached it's maximum quota. (A bit like primary school enrollments where schools close the books resulting in students going to the next school) In this club the next club.
You tell me the advantage in not changing anything compared with making changes for the benifit of all clubs and the league. Trust me, a few of these large clubs would like the EDFL to regulate size to take pressure off club and to have a reason to reduce in size and assist in management. I did say trust me.
I am all for a great league which would only improve.
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Great response and some solid ideas. No issue with these suggestions.
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Where have you been champ? You are posting to much sense on here and giving a neutral observation for the benefit of all clubs and footy in general. Keep up the good work and maybe someone from the league might try and contact you.
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Pretty simple. Clubs should have been accessed on where they were at. To have equalisation in where you implement a system into a program already running you must take things into account. So to answer your question, points allocated per club should vary to allow an even competition and then gradually over a period of time even it out to level points across the board. On the salary cap this should could also be in line with the adjustment in points "however" the gap must be very minimal, as the salary cap is something all clubs should try and align with. So to put it in simple terms the extra points allowed should be to recruit players to stay competitive but not the allow them to recruit big name players on huge coin..
Let's remember some AFL clubs were given allowances to be able to compete with the big clubs like Collingwood, Essendon etc otherwise they would be even bigger and unstoppable..
Some of you guys on here need to look at evening out the competition not creating a bigger divide.
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Now that's constructive..... As you are an Essendon Supporter, what do you think about Essendon getting the No.1 draft pick last season? That's equalisation.
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I think they can go one better! Scrap the finals alltogether so there are no complaints about exorbitant entry fees or players having to pay or inferior venues or bad umpiring. Let's give EVERYONE a participation trophy!
Too many salty people here. Club success is multi faceted, not as simple as putting pen to paper. Bringing out positive attitudes, dedication, professionalism via training standards, variety, education, and creating a pleasant setting with good people who are willing to volunteer and create a family type environment are all what create a strong club which then translates to the football field. Doesn't matter how many juniors you cap or restrictions you place, the cream will always rise to the top
