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[SM]

If you think that he is the man to provide that direction and identity, and bring the whole club along with him then so be it.

I'm not sure he is up to that, and I think he's started to lose support from the Everton supporters.

Quite possibly, but I suppose the risk is by starting again you're just taking another step back. The alternative of course is to give him until the end of the season, if he can't keep them up, sack him and bring in a Corberan/Cooper type who knows the Championship well and can develop a style. Burnley only appointed Kompany in the summer so it's not as if that's 'too late'. Hell, WBA brought Corberan in after a few months and he's shot them up the table.

I know I've come across as very pro-Lampard, but I guess I just find more issues in the Everton squad and board than the manager, where they've had a revolving door for years with nothing improving. It's a bit like Sunderland staying up by the skin of their teeth year after year by sacking and hiring new managers then finally blowing up entirely.

 

[SM]

I first noticed it when Efan Ekoku described the Leeds pitch v City as 'not Premier League quality'. The main sign is that the ball slows up when passes are made along the ground. Then you see some close ups after free kicks etc and the grass looks uneven - like your back yard when you haven't mowed it for a couple of weeks. By the end of the game there's a lot of marks on the grass compared to a shorter mowed pitch.

It didn't look much better against West Ham. Perhaps there are legit reasons why the Leeds groundsmen prepare a poor surface?

They had huge issues with their pitch last season, this isn't a new thing I don't think.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

 

[Cruyff14]

And only 5 minutes of stoppage time.

Joke.

 

[SM]

And only 5 minutes of stoppage time.

Joke.

I don't know if that's substantially less than most games though, but is certainly an argument for a stopped clock in games.

 

[moomba]

We had Madley against Everton, I'd be surprised if the ball was in play that much.

He's got no control over timewasting tactics.

 

[moomba]

I don't know if that's substantially less than most games though, but is certainly an argument for a stopped clock in games.

54 minutes is the average apparently.

 

[SM]

54 minutes is the average apparently.

Fair enough, thought I read somewhere that it was high 40s.

 

[Lebbo73]

I think this is shaping up to be the season/year Everton finally falls.

There’s next to no chance something this good for us could happen to Brades.

 

[Cruyff14]

I don't know if that's substantially less than most games though, but is certainly an argument for a stopped clock in games.

Yeah agree, FIFA gonna FIFA though

We had Madley against Everton, I'd be surprised if the ball was in play that much.

He's got no control over timewasting tactics.

Don't think he's got much control over anything to be honest.

 

[Sozabarus]

Yeah agree, FIFA gonna FIFA though

Don't think he's got much control over anything to be honest.

FIFA did a great job at the World Cup with the longer stoppage time, the PL really need to implement the same, it’s one of the biggest issues in the game at the moment.

 

[Cruyff14]

FIFA did a great job at the World Cup with the longer stoppage time, the PL really need to implement the same, it’s one of the biggest issues in the game at the moment.

Yeah the FA already came out during the WC saying they won't be doing it.

Bunch of twats.

 

[And_ROOS]

I think this is shaping up to be the season/year Everton finally falls.

They are lucky this year there are a lot of teams who are very poor and capable of a run of bad results.

Lester back on a losing streak, Nott Forest super inconsistent, and then you have Bournemouth and WHU having horrendous seasons.

All it might take is a new manager and a smart 2 or 3 signings and Everton could claw their way out. Probably to do it all again next season though.

I don't know if that's substantially less than most games though, but is certainly an argument for a stopped clock in games.

There was a suggestion a while ago that the refs should blow the whistle and stop the clock for injuries, FKs etc, and then have 35 minute halves. So you get a guaranteed 70 minutes of match play, and players time wasting etc becomes completely irrelevant. Its one of the few changes I would love to see in world football, time wasting isn't penalised harsh enough.

 

[SM]

Yeah the FA already came out during the WC saying they won't be doing it.

Bunch of twats.

I'm sure your view would change if you were holding on for a 1-0 win against Man City.

Just like Toon complained when Leeds did it against them.

 

[hawkman]

That is almost Stoke under Pulis or Burnley under Dyche levels

A real shame it happened to Arsenal

 

[joop]

I first noticed it when Efan Ekoku described the Leeds pitch v City as 'not Premier League quality'. The main sign is that the ball slows up when passes are made along the ground. Then you see some close ups after free kicks etc and the grass looks uneven - like your back yard when you haven't mowed it for a couple of weeks. By the end of the game there's a lot of marks on the grass compared to a shorter mowed pitch.

It didn't look much better against West Ham. Perhaps there are legit reasons why the Leeds groundsmen prepare a poor surface?

It’s been an issue for a couple of years. We had the whole pitch replaced last season I’m pretty sure.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Leeds is managed by a Mars(c)h so their ground is a swamp

 

[chef]

Should i ban him?

 

[Bradesmaen]

Should i ban him?

So mean.

 

[Frank Bunn]

It’s been an issue for a couple of years. We had the whole pitch replaced last season I’m pretty sure.

Apparently it was completely replaced down to the foundations before that start of last season. So they shouldn't be having problems now. If Everton also left the grass long against Brighton it might have bitten them in the arse with that back pass by Idrissa Gueye.

Pep doesn't concern himself with the length of the grass, except when he does.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Apparently it was completely replaced down to the foundations before that start of last season. So they shouldn't be having problems now. If Everton also left the grass long against Brighton it might have bitten them in the arse with that back pass by Idrissa Gueye.

Pep doesn't concern himself with the length of the grass, except when he does.

Max is 30mm. 3cm is fairly short still. Maybe over watered

 

[joop]

Max is 30mm. 3cm is fairly short still. Maybe over watered

Even when our old pitch was an ice rink they’d water it before games. I’m not a turf management expert by any means but it seemed an odd choice.

 

[Frank Bunn]

Max is 30mm. 3cm is fairly short still. Maybe over watered

The plot thickens.

Arteta blamed the long grass for his side’s lacklustre performance in a 0-0 draw with Burnley.

A former Premier League groundsman said “In reality, 30mm is still very long though and most pitches will have grass between 20 and 22mm in length".

Training Ground Guru | Mikel Arteta and Premier League pitch battles

WAS Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta justified in blaming the length of the Turf Moor grass for his side's 0-0 draw at Burnley?

trainingground.guru

 

[RPCB]

Should i ban him?

“Be the mod, you want to see in the world.”

Mahatma Gandhi, probably.

 

[chef]

Im not looking forward to this game, atmosphere could get ugly.