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[samFFC]

Yeah I'd give the Haaland thing a yellow, I guess the ref didn't see it, and VAR shouldn't be getting involved in that and giving out reds or bans.

Agreed, unless particularly egregious.
That wasn’t what it was intended for, and not what football clubs and fans signed up to.

"This is 'minimal interference' and with the outcome of three matches being directly affected by the VAR intervention this is 'maximum benefit' and a fairer World Cup.

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[Bradesmaen]

Yellows count to season total, risk of suspension.
Can’t believe VAR didnt see it..

Var did see it but doesn't give yellows. It's been around for long enough, you should know that by now

 

[samFFC]

Var did see it but doesn't give yellows. It's been around for long enough, you should know that by now

Fair. Needs to have a retroactive punishment then.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Fair. Needs to have a retroactive punishment then.

If they do that for a minor offence like that then they should do it for diving too.

 

[moomba]

Fair. Needs to have a retroactive punishment then.

What would you suggest?

He's not the first person this season (or even this match) to get away with a potential yellow.

 

[samFFC]

If they do that for a minor offence like that then they should do it for diving too.

I dont disagree with that.

Diving is more of a disrepute thing than potential injury, but I agree.

What would you suggest?

He's not the first person this season (or even this match) to get away with a potential yellow.

would treat it like a minor headbutt.
Headbutt is straight red.
Any other unnecessary contact with a players head is a yellow.

 

[Loonerty]

Fabregas got a red for accidentally doing it

 

[chef]

Fabregas got a red for accidentally doing it

Haha there was nothing accidental about that one.

 

[Zidane98]

Ha ha. Drama queen.

Not like it hasn't happened before



If a red was handed out there can be no complaints. Haaland is a lucky boy.

 

[Loonerty]

Haha there was nothing accidental about that one.

There was no way he meant to hit him. Fabregas was a great passer but surely...

 

[glenferry23]

I dont disagree with that.

Diving is more of a disrepute thing than potential injury, but I agree.



would treat it like a minor headbutt.
Headbutt is straight red.
Any other unnecessary contact with a players head is a yellow.

Yes if applying the “letter of the law” stuff, then yes he threw it deliberately at a players head. And you could say he also delayed the restart. I mean I don’t particularly feel it warrants such a consequence, however this is the level of magnification that every moment seems to be dissected into in the current era.

I again point to that Howard Webb look at me tour he does with his show, which is little more than a propaganda tool to mask offer deficient officiating. I recall last year when Oliver didn’t send off Kovacic for a second yellow, the defence was he “didn’t want to ruin the game”. However then you fast forward to this stuff, and they shrug their shoulders with “ahh he had no choice”. They just pick and choose when this letter of the law stuff applies or not. Consistently inconsistent. They’re not fit for purpose.

Also will be interesting to see if this is still a thing in 12-18 months time. Every now and then they seem to come out with some kind of edict of what they’re going to clamp down on. I remember clubs being charged by the FA a year or two ago for surrounding the ref. That doesn’t seem to be as relevant now. I wonder what they will move onto next.

On another note, Rodri’s injury is a real tipping point for the players. He has been very vocal lately regarding the demands on players. They have little to no rest anymore, especially when they go deep in international tournaments such as the Euros. The game is a global product, and players are essentially being treated as assets.

Fatigue induced injuries can happen to any club, any player really, happened to Odegaard a few weeks ago and now Rodri. It’s a genuine concern that I note more and more of them are speaking out on. If anything though, it seems that more fixtures and tournaments are being added to the calendar.

 

[chef]

There was no way he meant to hit him. Fabregas was a great passer but surely...

He could have rolled it along the ground if wanted too, I went back and watched it again and I think he meant it. Just wasn't expecting a red.

 

[charcoalchicken]

If they do that for a minor offence like that then they should do it for diving too.

I have Always thought they should do retrospective bans for diving and stamp it out of the game

 

[Zidane98]

Shame about Rodri ACL injury, best DM in the league.

With a bit of luck should be fit to start the season in League One 25/26.

 

[Cruyff14]

How did Haaland not get a yellow either for shoulder barging Partey straight after the equalizer? Ran straight through him intentionally.

 

[Zidane98]

He could have rolled it along the ground if wanted too, I went back and watched it again and I think he meant it. Just wasn't expecting a red.

Having looked at the Fabregas one and this one by Kounde




I don't see how the VAR didn't call over the referee for a review especially as it appears Oliver had his back turned on the whole incident and couldn't have possibly made a call on it.

 

[QuietB]

It is getting pretty spicy between these two clubs.

The rivalry (pretty one way when it comes to trophies I know) between Liverpool and City was never really spicy at all. Liverpool just have more class than anyone else

 

[QuietB]

Was Trossard carded for kicking the ball away, or for the foul, seems the league and the officials couldn't come to a decision on this which is why the match centre said it was one, and the ref said it was the other.

In the 50 Premier League games played so far this season 4 yellow cards have been given for ‘delaying the restart’
William Saliba, Declan Rice, Leandro Trossard and Bruno Fernandes out of the 100 restarts have been delayed in those matches, but tell me more about how its not an Arsenal thing

The foul was within a bees dick of a yellow card, kicking the ball away sealed the deal.

Once Trossard clattered into whoever he did, he should have been grovelling to not get a card, not kicking the ball away.

 

[QuietB]

What would you suggest?

He's not the first person this season (or even this match) to get away with a potential yellow.

They should review every single match post game and hand out 364 yellow cards for offences that were missed. And Roy Keane should receive 1,321 retrospective reds.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

How did Haaland not get a yellow either for shoulder barging Partey straight after the equalizer? Ran straight through him intentionally.

For doing a good societal deed perhaps.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Was Trossard carded for kicking the ball away, or for the foul, seems the league and the officials couldn't come to a decision on this which is why the match centre said it was one, and the ref said it was the other.

In the 50 Premier League games played so far this season 4 yellow cards have been given for ‘delaying the restart’
William Saliba, Declan Rice, Leandro Trossard and Bruno Fernandes out of the 100 restarts have been delayed in those matches, but tell me more about how its not an Arsenal thing

For all your bellyaching about being hard done by both red cards awarded this season were justified.
And you do get some good fortune too. Note: Raya finished the game without being carded.

 

[Jatz]

For all your bellyaching about being hard done by both red cards awarded this season were justified.
And you do get some good fortune too. Note: Raya finished the game without being carded.

Implement a stop/start clock and the timewasting would vanish quickly.

 

[hawkman]

For all your bellyaching about being hard done by both red cards awarded this season were justified.
And you do get some good fortune too. Note: Raya finished the game without being carded.

Within a month Legohead will be whinging about a team timewasting at the Emirates

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Implement a stop/start clock and the timewasting would vanish quickly.

I was going to suggest letting me sit behind the keeper and if he takes too long I get to shoot paintball at him.

Speeds up the game and fun for me.

 

[hawkman]

Implement a stop/start clock and the timewasting would vanish quickly.

It would eliminate a bit of it. Arsenal would have still tried to stop the game like they did Raya pretending to cramp just so they could slow the momentum and let Arteta talk to his players