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[Topkent]

I didn’t bring it up. It was brought up by other posters and I got involved in the conversation.

Football fans get up in arms about referees because their decisions have a much bigger impact on the game than they might in some other sports.

Eg. In AFL, you can’t be sent off, and a free kick in front of goal has far less of an impact than a penalty does in football.

Red cards change the entire dynamic of a game, which is simply not something that can happen in AFL.

I get that but if Trossard kicks it away and doesn't get carded then city fans are crying foul and saying they got ****ed over. There's no winning for the referees they have to make a decision and soccer fans seem to treat every decision as either 100% correct or biased against there team. It's tiring.

When I watch spurs I couldn't give a shit who the ref is. Sometimes it's frustrating when there's too many soft fouls but I don't care, ultimately spurs are either good enough or shit. It's not the referees every single game like alot on here make out.

 

[Zidane98]

Again, no arguments here.

But how can you send off one player for it and ignore it when another player does it?

That’s the million dollar question that everyone seems to be ignoring.

The simple answer to that is every incident is different. Interpretation is up to the referee. Looking at the two incidents I personally would have given Trossard one for this incident as City had the ball centrally and probably wanted a quick restart..

IMO considering the position on the pitch the referee could have let the Rice one slide as the ball had to go back 10 meters anyway to the right position for a restart. If it were me a quick verbal warning would have done the job but that's not to say it also wasn't a correct decision to give him a second yellow.

Comparing different incidents simply isn't an argument to make.

 

[Zidane98]

Both of arsenals goals could have been chalked off, one could have been a foul the other was assisted by the ref. Am I mad that they weren't? No. I think you can argue for both being fine. But sure only focus on the things that didn't work out for you cause it helps cope.

There's no possible way the first goal could have been chalked off and besides Walker is silly for moaning / not getting on the game. Once the referee restarts the game that's it, Not reviewable upon VAR at all.

 

[QuietB]

A good point they made on the Sky Football podcast - did Trossard put his foot through the ball aimlessly like that for any other pass he attempted in the game?

 

[99 Problems]

Strange game. Great result for Arsenal getting a point away with 10 men. But given it’s against City, that late goal is really 3 points dropped in the title race.

City give up an early lead at home, but manage to get a draw after losing their most important player.

The Rodri injury might be the most important part of the whole game when it comes to the title race.

 

[hawkman]

There's no possible way the first goal could have been chalked off and besides Walker is silly for moaning / not getting on the game. Once the referee restarts the game that's it, Not reviewable upon VAR at all.

Play should never have been restarted as Oliver takes Walker out of his position and then doesn't allow him to get back to his position. Not reviewable but horrible refereeing

 

[Cruyff14]

I think people also like to jump on whatever fanbase it is that happens to get regular decisions against them. It happened a lot with Liverpool and Spurs too.

It also wouldn’t be brought up anywhere near as often if there was consistency applied regularly.

This isn’t a rant; it’s simply stating is what it is. Arsenal have had favourable decisions before, and they will get them again. But recently, there have been some controversial calls, that have not been consistently applied to other sides.

There’s no point complaining about the referees IMO. The three main ones I can think of; Taylor, Gillett and Oliver are all consistently awful. The refereeing standard across the whole PL is poor, irrespective of who you follow or who you dislike.

 

[charcoalchicken]

Doesn't sound great about Rodri. We've done well without him for most of this season so far. But will be a.big blow.of he's out for a y decent time.

Acl I’m hearing.

 

[QuietB]

Acl I’m hearing.

Can Man City win it all without Rodri? history says no.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Arsenal fans get decisions go their way… crickets.

Arsenal fans have yellow cards awarded for yellow card offences… incessant whinging.

Arsenal fans also struggle to understand that referees don’t see every single infringement that happens during a game. Much easier to cope by citing a conspiracy.

Their fans are fast turning into an army of Arteta’s. Whinging little bitches.

Arteta yet again classless with his whinging to the 4th official after Trossard's deserved 2nd yellow.

As an aside And_ROOS seriously time to STFU now. You're embarrassing yourself with this continued Rice nonsense. Don't kick the ball away. Simple.

 

[Loonerty]

I like watching blue man kick ball into net

 

[apollo_creed]

Didn’t Arsenal blatantly move the ball forward for their first goal?

 

[apollo_creed]

Oh and the goal was scored because Walker was out of position after the referee called him over and let them take it before he was back in position.

But no mention of this amongst the whinging.

Wonder why?

 

[Bradesmaen]

Oh and the goal was scored because Walker was out of position after the referee called him over and let them take it before he was back in position.

But no mention of this amongst the whinging.

Wonder why?

It's a disgracia.

 

[jod23]

Doesn't sound great about Rodri. We've done well without him for most of this season so far. But will be a.big blow.of he's out for a y decent time.

Could change the title race for sure, your record with and without him is stark.

 

[jod23]

I did think it was interesting how poor Arsenal were in possession in the second half. Literally couldnt keep it. I know they were a man down and City are a good team, but you can still play football with 10 men and they just really couldnt for whatever reason.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Four points away (seven if you include Villa) from Spurs and City is I’m sure something every fan would take.

So proud of the team for the way we defended when it all went out the window. Timber may have completed no passes but he was one of our best for sure.

Arteta does need to curb these disciplinary problems, irrespective if they’re soft yellows or not. Thankfully we have a slightly easier stretch of games coming up where our absences won’t be as missed as our last couple of games.

FWIW Trossard misses the Bolton League Cup game not the Leicester game.

 

[chef]

 

[SM]

FWIW Trossard misses the Bolton League Cup game not the Leicester game.

That hasn't been the rule for ages.

 

[Bradesmaen]

That hasn't been the rule for ages.

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[TheGreatBarryB]

A bit childish

 

[Bradesmaen]

That hasn't been the rule for ages.

It's also dealt with in the PDF on this page:

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/discipline/player-essentials

 

[Cruyff14]

FWIW Trossard misses the Bolton League Cup game not the Leicester game.

Even better.

We should have enough to get over Bolton without him anyway.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Even better.

We should have enough to get over Bolton without him anyway.

He probably would have been rotated anyway.

 

[Cruyff14]

He probably would have been rotated anyway.

Yup, most likely.

Rather have him available for the league so this works.