Re: Blues Seek Everitt for pick 27
Everitt for pick 27 and Fisher, sound fair?
Everitt for pick 27 and Fisher, sound fair?
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Re: Blues Seek Everitt for pick 27
They want Pick #11 for him ....
Not according to most Dogs supporters.
They want Pick #11 for him ....
Re: Blues Seek Everitt for pick 27
They are playing a prelim this week. You know....The finals......No?...Still nothing?
They are playing a prelim this week. You know....The finals......No?...Still nothing?
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remind us of how many you've lost to us?
Oh we know all about finals ...They are playing a prelim this week. You know....The finals......No?...Still nothing?
remind us of how many you've lost to us?
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Re: Blues Seek Everitt for pick 27
Article is speculative nonsense, notice there is nothing from the Dogs camp?
Oh and Farren Ray was a required player who requested a trade, he is not "out of favour".
Article is speculative nonsense, notice there is nothing from the Dogs camp?
Oh and Farren Ray was a required player who requested a trade, he is not "out of favour".
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Re: Blues Seek Everitt for pick 27
Greg Swann is giving off far too many quotes for there to be nothing in this story.
They are seriously mounting a bid for Everitt.
Will need to better than pick 27 though to move him because he is contracted.
Something like Carlton's 1st, 2nd round pick + a sweetener (i.e. Fisher/Grigg etc.) for Bulldogs 1st and Everitt.
Pick 27 and a player alone won't entice the Dogs enough IMO.
Greg Swann is giving off far too many quotes for there to be nothing in this story.
They are seriously mounting a bid for Everitt.
Will need to better than pick 27 though to move him because he is contracted.
Something like Carlton's 1st, 2nd round pick + a sweetener (i.e. Fisher/Grigg etc.) for Bulldogs 1st and Everitt.
Pick 27 and a player alone won't entice the Dogs enough IMO.
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Re: Blues Seek Everitt for pick 27
So Greg Swann is interested in Everitt, does not mean he is out of favour or no longer required. (After just signing a new contract).
Denham has asked Swann if they're interested and what they would give up. From that he has written this half baked speculative article.
So Greg Swann is interested in Everitt, does not mean he is out of favour or no longer required. (After just signing a new contract).
Denham has asked Swann if they're interested and what they would give up. From that he has written this half baked speculative article.
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Re: Blues Seek Everitt for pick 27
Exactly. It's how most journalists put together their stories.
''So what would you say if I said this?..."
Exactly. It's how most journalists put together their stories.
''So what would you say if I said this?..."
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Re: Blues Seek Everitt for pick 27
I did not say anywhere in my post that he was "out-of-favour".
All I said is, it is unlike Swann to be giving off too many quotes for the story to have zero substance.
Swann and the Blues are looking to mount a serious bid for Everitt.
Whether the Bulldogs want to come to the party and nut out a deal is entirely up to them.
I did not say anywhere in my post that he was "out-of-favour".
All I said is, it is unlike Swann to be giving off too many quotes for the story to have zero substance.
Swann and the Blues are looking to mount a serious bid for Everitt.
Whether the Bulldogs want to come to the party and nut out a deal is entirely up to them.
Re: Blues Seek Everitt for pick 27
That's an idiotic suggestion, giving up a 1st, 2nd rnd pick and a sweetner is paying way over the odds for someone like Everitt.
That's an idiotic suggestion, giving up a 1st, 2nd rnd pick and a sweetner is paying way over the odds for someone like Everitt.
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What if put forth a deal that the Bulldogs thought was too good to refuse?
It would be a Josh Kennedy all over again:
"thanks for signing, by the way - we're trading you"
Being out of favour has no bearing on the situation.
What if put forth a deal that the Bulldogs thought was too good to refuse?
It would be a Josh Kennedy all over again:
"thanks for signing, by the way - we're trading you"
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You mean like how Josh Kennedy was a required player - who signed mid season with Carlton?
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Yo.
The last time would have been over 20 years ago.
It's been a while since you gave us another chance.
I guess ancient history is all you have to be excited about.
Yo.
The last time would have been over 20 years ago.
It's been a while since you gave us another chance.
I guess ancient history is all you have to be excited about.
Re: Blues Seek Everitt for pick 27
Considering he was a former first round pick, and a tall player who seemed to be developing nicely at the end of the season, pick 27 + a spud like Fisher, is certainly not going to be enough, especially considering he's contracted for another 2 seasons.
Considering he was a former first round pick, and a tall player who seemed to be developing nicely at the end of the season, pick 27 + a spud like Fisher, is certainly not going to be enough, especially considering he's contracted for another 2 seasons.
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Re: Blues Seek Everitt for pick 27
If Carlton throw the kitchen sink our way of course, however that's not going to happen.
If Carlton throw the kitchen sink our way of course, however that's not going to happen.
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Re: Blues Seek Everitt for pick 27
He didn't say that. He suggested a swap of first round picks.
So I think we agree that #27 and Fisher is not great for a #11 draft pick who is developing as a KPP should develop (I assume).
Pick 11 added in is terribly against us.
The suggestion is:
Carlton get:
Everitt, Pick 14-17 depending on where Dogs finish
Dogs get:
Pick 11, 27 and Fisher/Hartlett
That elevation in the first round might help the Dogs get whoever they want. The demotion in the first round might not hurt the Blues as they were probably looking at a KPP there anyway and that is what Everitt will be and where he was taken.
In reality we lose a second round pick and a player who doesn't fit into our side and a couple of first round spots. Obviously the deal would suit the Dogs more if they won the flag. If they are knocked out, they might not see the distance between #15 and #11 as significant.
Having said all that, I haven't seen much of Everitt except when we played the Dogs a couple of times and he was ordinary those times IIRC.
He didn't say that. He suggested a swap of first round picks.
So I think we agree that #27 and Fisher is not great for a #11 draft pick who is developing as a KPP should develop (I assume).
Pick 11 added in is terribly against us.
The suggestion is:
Carlton get:
Everitt, Pick 14-17 depending on where Dogs finish
Dogs get:
Pick 11, 27 and Fisher/Hartlett
That elevation in the first round might help the Dogs get whoever they want. The demotion in the first round might not hurt the Blues as they were probably looking at a KPP there anyway and that is what Everitt will be and where he was taken.
In reality we lose a second round pick and a player who doesn't fit into our side and a couple of first round spots. Obviously the deal would suit the Dogs more if they won the flag. If they are knocked out, they might not see the distance between #15 and #11 as significant.
Having said all that, I haven't seen much of Everitt except when we played the Dogs a couple of times and he was ordinary those times IIRC.
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Re: Blues Seek Everitt for pick 27
This kid has alot of tallent he has bulked up a fair bit since he started and would be a good as pickup for Carlton if they can get him with a second rounder.
This kid has alot of tallent he has bulked up a fair bit since he started and would be a good as pickup for Carlton if they can get him with a second rounder.
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To all the Carlton supporters bagging Everitt when they probably havnt even watched him play... watch the Rd 22 game against Collingwood and the Rd 17 2007 game against the Saints. He has enormous potential, just very lazy. The bigger bucks and premiership window that Carlton can offer him might entice him to actually work, and give him a good kick up the ass.
Would at least like the worst deal to be Fisher and your first pick, for everitt and our first pick...
To all the Carlton supporters bagging Everitt when they probably havnt even watched him play... watch the Rd 22 game against Collingwood and the Rd 17 2007 game against the Saints. He has enormous potential, just very lazy. The bigger bucks and premiership window that Carlton can offer him might entice him to actually work, and give him a good kick up the ass.
Would at least like the worst deal to be Fisher and your first pick, for everitt and our first pick...
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Re: Blues Seek Everitt for pick 27
We'd have to look at that. Fisher for Everitt and lose 4-6 places in the first round. That represents serious value for Carlton.
We'd have to look at that. Fisher for Everitt and lose 4-6 places in the first round. That represents serious value for Carlton.
Re: Blues Seek Everitt for pick 27
Everitt was pencil thin when drafted. He looks to have bulked up quite a lot and is still only 20. Was 193cms and change when drafted at 17.5 years of age and looks a bit taller than that now.
Has nice kicking skills and evasiveness and shown some ability to play forward as a junior but was more comfortable as a tall defender. Good pace which is essential these days with talls. He reminds me a bit of Austin from Carlton with his laid back attitude. Needs to find a bit of intensity and up his workrate.
Plenty of upside and is well worth pick 27 and a fringe player. far to many quotes for an experienced campaigner like Swann to be giving out without their being some genuine 2 way dialogue between both camps. It must be a salary cap issue and wanting to lock down Barry Hall and Lake early on so they can commit to both and make their delistings and balance the books. Carlton to trade a player to WB and pay most of the salary and give up a pick.
Maybe Everitt has had a falling out with the coach. From a list management side of things it makes no sense to trade him for anything other than a good deal. Pick 27 and a fringe player is just not that deal. A pre draft skinny, bottom aged tall with intensity issues are going to need time and nurturing and thats exactly what he needs. Not to be traded 3 years in when he is starting to fill out and learning to use his body and learning how to compete.
Everitt was pencil thin when drafted. He looks to have bulked up quite a lot and is still only 20. Was 193cms and change when drafted at 17.5 years of age and looks a bit taller than that now.
Has nice kicking skills and evasiveness and shown some ability to play forward as a junior but was more comfortable as a tall defender. Good pace which is essential these days with talls. He reminds me a bit of Austin from Carlton with his laid back attitude. Needs to find a bit of intensity and up his workrate.
Plenty of upside and is well worth pick 27 and a fringe player. far to many quotes for an experienced campaigner like Swann to be giving out without their being some genuine 2 way dialogue between both camps. It must be a salary cap issue and wanting to lock down Barry Hall and Lake early on so they can commit to both and make their delistings and balance the books. Carlton to trade a player to WB and pay most of the salary and give up a pick.
Maybe Everitt has had a falling out with the coach. From a list management side of things it makes no sense to trade him for anything other than a good deal. Pick 27 and a fringe player is just not that deal. A pre draft skinny, bottom aged tall with intensity issues are going to need time and nurturing and thats exactly what he needs. Not to be traded 3 years in when he is starting to fill out and learning to use his body and learning how to compete.
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Re: Blues Seek Everitt for pick 27
It would have to be someone other than Fisher.
Re: Blues Seek Everitt for pick 27
We gave the kid number 3 cause we initially thought he was going to be a gun. Nothing I've seen from him changes my opinion that he will be a gun. Played very well against the pies in Rd 22, just unlucky due to match ups.
Welsh will retire at the end of the year and Everitt will be playing 22 games next year IMO.
The only reason I could speculate that we'd want him out, is if he and J Grant are bad influences on one another and we've decided to stick with Grant. Other than that, it makes no sense to get rid of him, cause he's got all the tools and is still developing.
We gave the kid number 3 cause we initially thought he was going to be a gun. Nothing I've seen from him changes my opinion that he will be a gun. Played very well against the pies in Rd 22, just unlucky due to match ups.
Welsh will retire at the end of the year and Everitt will be playing 22 games next year IMO.
The only reason I could speculate that we'd want him out, is if he and J Grant are bad influences on one another and we've decided to stick with Grant. Other than that, it makes no sense to get rid of him, cause he's got all the tools and is still developing.
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Re: Blues Seek Everitt for pick 27
What's Everitt's best position?
IIRC, Everitt played the last round as a back up ruckman IIRC and not as a KPD with Williams out...
Pick 11 could be a young KPP in Talia.
I can't see the Blues trading that pick straight out for Everitt and lose our last early first rounder for the next three drafts. If Everitt is contracted and wants to move, the clubs will have to meet a middle ground with a trade and upgrade their first rounder with our second rounder or a player thrown in.
It has to be a salary cap issue with Lake and Higgins re-signed on good dollars.
And the Dogs reportedly looking to sign Barry Hall and Akermanis for next year.
What's Everitt's best position?
IIRC, Everitt played the last round as a back up ruckman IIRC and not as a KPD with Williams out...
Pick 11 could be a young KPP in Talia.
I can't see the Blues trading that pick straight out for Everitt and lose our last early first rounder for the next three drafts. If Everitt is contracted and wants to move, the clubs will have to meet a middle ground with a trade and upgrade their first rounder with our second rounder or a player thrown in.
It has to be a salary cap issue with Lake and Higgins re-signed on good dollars.
And the Dogs reportedly looking to sign Barry Hall and Akermanis for next year.
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