F1 F1 2024 thread

[Festerz]

Ok I'll do it, just for interest sake... so last 10 starting from Canadian GP - not including DNF's (in brackets)
Perez 8.75 (2)
Ric 12.3.(0)
Tsunoda. 13.9 (2)

My point wasn't really about the numbers. It was that using finish place averages is a meaningless stat in a competitive motor racing context where quali and other factors over a race weekend come in to play, damage from collisions, team strategy, different tyre strategies, different upgrades etc.

Especially if you then go and pick a non-random set of races to do that simplistic and non-relevant arithmetic calculation.

I mean why was 'the last 10 races' picked? Why not the full season stats including qualifying grid position and points gained over the full season? Pretty obvious it was done to get numbers to sell a narrative.

Anyhow, we all know why Danny was retired and why Perez and Tsunoda keep their second tier seats with RBR. And race outcomes is just a very small part of that story.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

10 place grid penalty for Lawson

Lol

 

[Gunf]

10 place grid penalty for Lawson

Lol

Isn't that only for the sprint?

 

[Not Important]

renault pulling the plug

“Alpine is, therefore, in need of an engine supplier for the 2026 season. The team is believed to be in discussions with Mercedes to obtain power units as a customer.”

 

[King Of Money]

Isn't that only for the sprint?

Correct.

Which begs the question... Does serving a 10 place grid penalty in a sprint race have the same punitive effect as serving it in a full Sunday GP?

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

renault pulling the plug

“Alpine is, therefore, in need of an engine supplier for the 2026 season. The team is believed to be in discussions with Mercedes to obtain power units as a customer.”

Give it another 18 months and my bet is they won't be called Alpine either

 

[Gunf]

Correct.

Which begs the question... Does serving a 10 place grid penalty in a sprint race have the same punitive effect as serving it in a full Sunday GP?

Nope all penalties should apply to the GP not the sprint and that is usually the case so not sure why it is different here

 

[happy_eagle]

Give it another 18 months and my bet is they won't be called Alpine either

Could Andretti buy them out ?

 

[MKMatty]

Could Andretti buy them out ?

Hitech more likely given their new TP is/was director there?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Ric losing his seat was probably the right move but how the **** does Perez keep his???? Man he must be bringing in what 50mil+ in cash?

Ric still had moments of brilliance but was to inconsistent so i can see why they moved him on.

His sponsors must be amazing.

 

[jabba5114]

Could Andretti buy them out ?

Is interesting that Michael has stepped down as well. Someone new negotiating ?

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[Festerz]

His sponsors must be amazing.

Yes. and worth a fortune to Red Bull.

Checo's personal sponsorship deals with Disney, Telcel, Mobil, Claro, Nescafé and KitKat are reported to bring about US$5m p.a. to RBR.

But his biggest sponsor by far is the Mexican Billionaire Carlos Slim Helú who the Bloomberg Billionaires Index ranked as the 11th-richest person in the world at the end of 2023 , with a net worth of $105 billion or about 7% of Mexico's GDP, making him the richest person in Latin America - mainly through his telecoms assets. (Slim has dropped down to 20th on the billionaires' list over the course of 2024 with his net worth now a paltry $90 billion - tough times for some )

Even with the strong financial backing of the Mateschitz at their disposal, that sponsorship money comes in pretty handy when it comes to covering the cost of Verstappen's $55m annual salary and the rest of the F1 budget.

Pretty hard for someone like Danny Ric to compete with that.

 

[Not Important]

Yes. and worth a fortune to Red Bull.

Checo's personal sponsorship deals with Disney, Telcel, Mobil, Claro, Nescafé and KitKat are reported to bring about US$5m p.a. to RBR.

But his biggest sponsor by far is the Mexican Billionaire Carlos Slim Helú who the Bloomberg Billionaires Index ranked as the 11th-richest person in the world at the end of 2023 , with a net worth of $105 billion or about 7% of Mexico's GDP, making him the richest person in Latin America - mainly through his telecoms assets. (Slim has dropped down to 20th on the billionaires' list over the course of 2024 with his net worth now a paltry $90 billion - tough times for some )

Even with the strong financial backing of the Mateschitz at their disposal, that sponsorship money comes in pretty handy when it comes to covering the cost of Verstappen's $55m annual salary and the rest of the F1 budget.

Pretty hard for someone like Danny Ric to compete with that.

agree! but it’s also very costly if the team doesn't perform. particularly if it can be attributed to a weak link.

 

[Not Important]

the news about the great man is encouraging if accurate.

 

[Broken]

Give it another 18 months and my bet is they won't be called Alpine either

True. It'll probably be Mastercard Ladbrokes Google Racing by Alpine.

 

[Pugz89]

AusGP tickets are getting pretty absurd.

 

[Not Important]

AusGP tickets are getting pretty absurd.

i'd go further, rip off.

 

[Not Important]

McLaren prepare critical upgrades for final phase of 2024

After taking a lead in the constructors standings, McLaren are working to produce upgrades to give Norris an edge over Verstappen.

lastwordonsports.com

 

[nobbyiscool]

AusGP tickets are getting pretty absurd.

As someone who has been watching F1 since the Darryl Eastlake/Alan Jones days, it shatters me now that I never went to the F1 in Melbourne when it was affordable. The Drive to Survive-fuelled popularity has made this such a gross money spinner for F1, and I doubt the state of Victoria even sees much benefit outside of tourism - F1s deals typically result in them taking all the profits but sharing the risk.

 

[nobbyiscool]

I don't really know how the ballot worked, but I just got an email saying I wasn't successful

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Yes. and worth a fortune to Red Bull.

Checo's personal sponsorship deals with Disney, Telcel, Mobil, Claro, Nescafé and KitKat are reported to bring about US$5m p.a. to RBR.

But his biggest sponsor by far is the Mexican Billionaire Carlos Slim Helú who the Bloomberg Billionaires Index ranked as the 11th-richest person in the world at the end of 2023 , with a net worth of $105 billion or about 7% of Mexico's GDP, making him the richest person in Latin America - mainly through his telecoms assets. (Slim has dropped down to 20th on the billionaires' list over the course of 2024 with his net worth now a paltry $90 billion - tough times for some )

Even with the strong financial backing of the Mateschitz at their disposal, that sponsorship money comes in pretty handy when it comes to covering the cost of Verstappen's $55m annual salary and the rest of the F1 budget.

Pretty hard for someone like Danny Ric to compete with that.

Gee whiz it is. The deck is stacked.

 

[Not Important]

Mattia Binotto Downplays Potential of Audi Power Unit for the 2026 Season - Fastest Pitstop

Mattia Binotto has downplayed the expectations from the Audi Powertrain as they prepare to enter F1 in 2026.

fastestpitstop.net

 

[Gak Attack]

I don't really know how the ballot worked, but I just got an email saying I wasn't successful

I was successful somehow. Says I can do up to 6 tickets but also says tickets aren't guaranteed. I won't need 6 so if code works for someone else happy to share. Not sure if order needs to match my name.

 

[Black_White]

i'd go further, rip off.

And yet the event doesn’t turn a profit.

 

[Not Important]

And yet the event doesn’t turn a profit.

doubt it ever will. but the corporation’s coffers will fill up next year—outrageous the new entrance charges.