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Coach Fages and the coaching group
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Just think there is something wrong with the current gameplan/the way we are moving the ball forward. Its like they want to do little 15/20m kicks from the backline and changing the angles (I remember this back in the pre-season they were training to do this). The problem with this s that we are so slow making decisions and don't have those creative good ball users anymore due to Kidd's injury that it takes an age before it gets to our forward line. By that time, our forward line is packed and makes it very difficult to mark, especially when contested marking is not a feature of Joe/Hippy. They need to start running more and linking up by handballs, similar to Collingwoods gameplan (However that also means our players need to run more defensively tho..)
Pert of coaching is to develop mental strength in the playing group. I'm not seeing them as demonstrating that, and I definitely bring that back to the coach.
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I agree in part and the team at the moment is showing a propensity to mental fade out within games when things get a bit tough.
Maybe coming into this year after making the Grand Final, there was a thought within the group that all they had to do was turn up and they will get back there again. As it turns out, that is not the case and they have found themselves in a scrap that they were not mentally prepared for.
From now on, we will find out the mental strength of this group because it is now or never for this particular year.
We are seeing some different signs this year in comparison to previous, because we are seeing the mental fragility against the better teams which in more recent years it has been against some of the lesser teams where we give up the fight when it gets a bit tough.
I honestly think that we come into this year a bit underdone and are taking a bit of time to pick it up and struggling with a bit of confidence after some tough losses.
It is now time to stand up. I will back them in to lift, and Fagan to lead them out of the funk.
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Interesting analysis of our situation and not what it has looked like!
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How the two most important kicks in football are letting the Brisbane Lions down
With just two wins from seven starts this season, the Brisbane Lions need to nail the fundamentals if they are to turn around their fortunes, writes Cody Atkinson and Sean Lawson.
Interesting analysis of our situation and not what it has looked like!
Good analysis. I wonder how much difference having a real 3rd forward, instead of Gardiner, woulld have?
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Or without a 3rd all together?
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Hmmm... This thread is a little quite today.
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I think the year being written off with injuries will prevent any movement on the coaching front this year, either by the club or by Fages himself.
What I have come around to wanting to see after the season though is bringing in the best assistant coach we can find with the intention to take over from Fages, probably at the end of next year when he is off contract.
I think that works best for all parties. We don’t upset the status quo to much and it gives us a chance to get everyone back on board etc, but also sets up a succession plan for life after Fages, which is fast approaching either way.
What I have come around to wanting to see after the season though is bringing in the best assistant coach we can find with the intention to take over from Fages, probably at the end of next year when he is off contract.
I think that works best for all parties. We don’t upset the status quo to much and it gives us a chance to get everyone back on board etc, but also sets up a succession plan for life after Fages, which is fast approaching either way.
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Wait until they announce who will be filling in the newly opened injury gaps ... if it is Lyons et al there will be some traffic, if they drop Reville/Morris other traffic and if they bring in Brain etc a separate set.
Got to keep your powder dry until you know what to shoot at
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Wait until they announce who will be filling in the newly opened injury gaps ... if it is Lyons et al there will be some traffic, if they drop Reville/Morris other traffic and if they bring in Brain etc a separate set.
Got to keep your powder dry until you know what to shoot at
Wait until they announce who will be filling in the newly opened injury gaps ... if it is Lyons et al there will be some traffic, if they drop Reville/Morris other traffic and if they bring in Brain etc a separate set.
Got to keep your powder dry until you know what to shoot at
I'm reloading my cartridges as we speak.
And to be fair this performance was all about the players. One of the more gutsy games I've seen played by a Lions outfit.
Well it’s quiet most days.
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It's hectic when we lose though. Cause you know, then it's all fagans fault.
I’m scared of Nunez yelling at me again.
But, GC were ****inf hopeless and their own worst enemies last night, so can’t really read much in to our performance. Apart from playing out of our skins being short handed.
At one stage FoxFooty put up their pressure ratings, and we were at just below average, and GC were at poor, borderline bottom half of the poor zone.
We had a few players putting in big defensive efforts, and we had a few not putting in as much.
I’ve got big concerns about Rayner’s and McCluggage’s games, but that’s about them and not the coaches.
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Agree, interesting to know whether a very low pressure rating by a poorly playing opposition can impact the the other team's pressure rating. I.e. other team doesn't need to apply pressure to get the ball.
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I just found it laughable that we had two guys left on the bench and a team who were 100% committed to giving everything they had and left nothing in the tank, yet the comment you mustered up was "we're not playing that well".
I get you're very focused on stats, but the human element of what the boys produced was extraordinarily resilient and that is not something we've really associated to the team much the last few years.
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According to the Champion Data people, over a long enough period, that is the case. The two pressure ratings should converge on the basis that if you are near your opponent (ie applying pressure), your opponent is also near you (and thus can apply pressure back the other way).
Im sure the players first thought after singing the song was to log into their bigfooty accounts and read the match review thread.
Lions and the Suns played the quality you’d expect from bottom 8 sides. Lions mustered up a lot of courage to win that game but the Suns put in the worst performance I’ve seen since norf last year. What Briztoon said wasn’t incorrect but yeah I guess the players reading the thread were a bit miffed.
My comment was very much based on the eye test, and not stats.
My view is we weren’t playing well, especially in the first half when I made the comment.
So much fumbling by some of our players, getting tackled htb because they held on to the ball waaaay to long. A couple of players still very out of form.
A good team would have punished us.
I don’t believe we had an improved effort compared to the previous couple of games we lost.
Big effort in the second half to run out the game with no bench, but GC were playing at North levels of crappieness.
I'm not in any way downgrading the effort put in by our team , they were fully committed and almost to a man tried hard all night which is a massive tick compared to a few games this year. And then to keep going and maintain attack on the ball when some of them were clearly gassed was brave , credit to all.
But I was staggered at how disinterested GC were . Dimma seemed really aggravated in the box but they hadn't put any time into the matchups. Then seemed to expect it all to happen after half time without any lift in intensity. It was a pathetic effort from GC .No one tried to fly the flag at all.
But I was staggered at how disinterested GC were . Dimma seemed really aggravated in the box but they hadn't put any time into the matchups. Then seemed to expect it all to happen after half time without any lift in intensity. It was a pathetic effort from GC .No one tried to fly the flag at all.
The biggest disappointment was our inaccuracy costing us a 10+ goal win IMO
First time I’ve been game to have a look in this thread for two weeks.
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Yeah, I'd be interested of those being critical would be singing the same thing had we converted better. We were so clearly the best team and much of that was down to our dominance around the stoppages and the surety of our field kicking despite the dewy conditions.
I feel like some people just like to seem contrarian or overly analytical even after good wins. Nothing wrong with a bit analysis, but sometimes just enjoy a win for what it is.
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Our midfield coach is obviously doing some good work. The way we worked together against the Demons and Suns was great.
Fagan flipped the game plan and it led to way better looks for our forwards, got the ball deeper so it was easier for our backs to defend. He’s literally done what we were all whinging about. Plus we got 2 decent debuts.
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