Player Watch Fischer McAsey - Steps Away from Football, Not Returning

[Mr_Moogle]

The body language experts of big footy proven wrong again.

I thought he would bail for sure. Nothing to do with his body language though. It was simply the safer bet given the club's atrocious record at player retention over the years. With Worrell and McAsey re-signing, both vic metro boys, we now have some concrete proof that the club is turning it's culture around and players want to be here. This means I'll need to take a less cynical view or risk getting caught out like those w***ers in the Vic footy media.

 

[Jarman3]

So we may have (another) ITK poster on this board...

This was announced yesterday..

We'll, a club press release IS pretty good authority...

 

[Skippos]

We should be throwing coin at Day

I'd be leaning towards Stephens (Sydney). We do need potentially classy midfielders, and really, Syndey is looking like they'll morph into a pretty scary unit in the near future. Seems rather doable at this point in time.

This. Have to capitalise on the vibe now. This reminds me of another club. A history of player retention issues. Lots of high picks walking out. Backs against the walls. But then they found a core group of kids to build around. The right people/characters, the right culture. And they all stayed. Smart recruiting - picking up an undervalued inside ball winner for virtually nothing (Lyons - us with Keays). And then they picked up Neale. Now Daniher. There's no reason to think that can't be us, and a club that was once considered the opposite of a destination club becomes just a little bit more homely for those chasing a seachange.

Day would be unreal. Kid has something special. But he'll cost the world in a role we probably don't need.

Stephens makes much more sense. Local boy. Hasn't been given a run at it. Players have gone past him from within a bit unexpectedly. I don't think they expected Gulden/Campbell to be what they've been when they drafted Dylan, nor Blakey a wingman. The emergence of Warner and Rowbottom and the resultant push of Florent to the outside. Not to mention the small dimensions of the SCG being the opposite of what a player like Stephens craves. Not sure where his 'in' comes from. And we'd love someone like that.

 

[spenze]

Good news, happy with that just let the kid develop in the magoos for the time being

 

[cmndstab]

Actually, I think ... With the emergence of Butts we can afford to get another youngster into the defensive rotation!

Yeah, fair call - he has a chance to come in now without needing to take the best forward every weak.

 

[Scorpus]

Doedee is a master of social media

 

[Betts are off]

I thought he would bail for sure. Nothing to do with his body language though. It was simply the safer bet given the club's atrocious record at player retention over the years. With Worrell and McAsey re-signing, both vic metro boys, we now have some concrete proof that the club is turning it's culture around and players want to be here. This means I'll need to take a less cynical view or risk getting caught out like those w***ers in the Vic footy media.

The question is how atrocious is our record compared to other clubs really? Especially recently. I mean who was the last player we lost that we didn't actively push out or receive fair or retrospectively overs for in compensation?

Dangerfield? That was 2015. And players like Gunsten, Davis, Bock, etc I don't think should even be considered in the discussion anymore, they were upwards of 3-5 regimes ago. When are we as a fanbase going to stop banging those tired old drums?

On that point I think we should institute a new rule when talking about player retention, if the player never played a home game at Adelaide Oval (2014) then they no longer belong in the modern AFC player retention discussion. Call it the Footy Park rule!

 

[Golumless]

The question really is how atrocious is our record compared to others really, especially recently. I mean who was the last player we lost that we didn't actively push out or receive fair or retrospectively overs for in compensation?

Dangerfield? That was 2015. And players like Gunsten, Davis, Bock, etc I don't think should even be considered in the discussion anymore, they were upwards of 3-5 regimes ago. And mean when can we stop banging those tired drums?

On that point I think we should institute a new rule when talking about player retention, if the player never played a home game at Adelaide Oval (2014) then they no longer belong in the modern AFC player retention discussion. Call it the Footy Park rule!

McGovern stands out in that regard. I highly doubt we wanted to lose Cameron or Lever either. Just got put into a bad position due to how mismanaged we were with our cap with made them gettable with relatively big offers.

I don't think there is a standout case post-2018 that wasn't just us in a "sell everything that isn't nailed down for whatever we can get" mode.

 

[Betts are off]

McGovern stands out in that regard. I highly doubt we wanted to lose Cameron or Lever either. Just got put into a bad position due to how mismanaged we were with our cap.

We received 4 x 1st round draft picks for those 3 players combined. Charlie hurts, but in the end I think we did well on all 3

 

[LoBu]

This. Have to capitalise on the vibe now. This reminds me of another club. A history of player retention issues. Lots of high picks walking out. Backs against the walls. But then they found a core group of kids to build around. The right people/characters, the right culture. And they all stayed.

I thought you were talking about the Mighty Ducks when I read this...

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[Stepover]

Oh no!!!! Who is BF going to go hysterical over now???

Surely there is a player who has a Vic girlfriend, or has land in Vic, or went back for a holiday, or liked a Vic Tourism social post, or was seen reading the Herald Sun, or who hasn’t
signed and only has 5 years of their contract left? .... surely.


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[Pilchard_Adams]

Must be hard for you to go about your daily life then!

I try to only read Kornes articles when the need arises. I get a laugh and get laid

 

[Large 1]

I thought he would bail for sure. Nothing to do with his body language though. It was simply the safer bet given the club's atrocious record at player retention over the years. With Worrell and McAsey re-signing, both vic metro boys, we now have some concrete proof that the club is turning it's culture around and players want to be here. This means I'll need to take a less cynical view or risk getting caught out like those w***ers in the Vic footy media.

*Past performance is a poor indicator of future outcomes

 

[Banshee23]

 

[Vhaluus]

We received 4 x 1st round draft picks for those 3 players combined. Charlie hurts, but in the end I think we did well on all 3

You can't just bundle them up together like that.

The reality is that what we got for Charlie is, retrospectively, under his value.

 

[Vhaluus]

*Past performance is a poor indicator of future outcomes

Except nearly every type of analytics is using past performance to predict future outcomes.

Really dumb saying.

 

[Scorpus]

Media: "Almost certain to request a trade home"

Fischer McAsey himself: "I always felt that I wanted to re-sign here" [...] "I didn't really feel that much of an urge to go home"

 

[ams4crows]

Smart head on his shoulders to recognise you have to be at a good balanced place in your life to sign a contract.
Dad had a health scare so made sure he was gonna be ok, sorted out his work life balance before judging what he wanted to do.

Good young lad

 

[BrissyCrow]

I am pleased that McAsey has decided to stay. As many have said it gives us a chance to develop him further. But the best thing I take out of this is that the club is becoming a place where players are willing to stay. This is a massive turnaround compared to the past couple of years. Getting his signature was important for the club and its members.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

I believe technically we are still in the “or so” of the “month or so” period Roo gave for this deal to get done.

Kane wrong again.

 

[Crow till I die]

Sounds like the lad really did weigh up many things to come to his decision to sign on. Good luck to him and hoping he can get into the side and stamp his authority on his position when he does!!

 

[baldandbroke]

How is Fish looking against others in his draft round? I see most of those names are showing something - I can see him developing into something really good.

 

[DJ75]

Give him the captaincy

Oh wow. That's good

 

[Large 1]

Except nearly every type of analytics is using past performance to predict future outcomes.

Really dumb saying.

Hey, take that up with industry super!

Also in the absence of future telling it is the best system we have. It doesn’t make it an accurate system.

 

[spenze]

Will Day has re-signed, and has very strong links at Hawthorn.

Dylan Stephens is the one we should be looking at.

What sort of pick swaps would potentially go down on that deal?