Football Related Random Thread - PART 2

[briztoon]

I have emailed the Club for an explanation. I strongly suspect (hope) that this is the work of a staffer in the Media Department and not a Board sanctioned action.. This is a divisive move naively made in an attempt as inclusion. Football Clubs are diverse groups brought together by a love of the game. The introduction of political positions can only lead to a dilution of focus on the Clubs primary goal of winning games and a splitting of the supporter group. Individual players or staff members are free in our society to express their views in their own way. It should be kept to that. We all look to Sport to provide escape from everyday troubles and a place of enjoyment.

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I believe you’ll find the whole club is behind it, and that it will have been signed off at multiple levels within the club.

 

[Dalions]

I believe you’ll find the whole club is behind it, and that it will have been signed off at multiple levels within the club.

And I am fine with that.

 

[Zacs_Magic_Tooth]

I'm happy with the clubs stance on the date. I've never had strong feelings one way or the other on the date. But a number of indigenous friends and family have expressed their distaste over the date and I am inclined to support them. Considering how much the day has changed over the years it really shouldn't matter that it gets changed again. As long as we still get a day off, Who really cares?

For me it’s the fact that this is another one of a long line of faux efforts to bridge the gap that will have zero effect on bettering the lives of (particularly remote-living) indigenous Australians. The 26th comes and goes and each year the majority of people demanding a date change on behalf of aboriginal people conveniently forget about tangible inequality issues until a week before the next Australia Day. Change it or not, nothing will really change

 

[Gadzorks]

For me it’s the fact that this is another one of a long line of faux efforts to bridge the gap that will have zero effect on bettering the lives of (particularly remote-living) indigenous Australians. The 26th comes and goes and each year the majority of people demanding a date change on behalf of aboriginal people conveniently forget about tangible inequality issues until a week before the next Australia Day. Change it or not, nothing will really change

Twenty years ago the vast majority of Australians refused to accept the date was a problem for a proportion of our population.

Now there are a lot of people who have thought about, and acknowledge that it causes pain.

You're right. That acknowledgment hasn't moved mountains and resolved problems. But acknowledging an issue is an important step in that process.

I am glad that the AFL and it's clubs are prepared to listen and to facilitate the opportunity for the wider population to listen. Big changes are made up of baby steps.

 

[BuntonRules]

Every club, bar Geelong, has issued a similar statement. So why single Brisbane out?

 

[Dalions]

Every club, bar Geelong, has issued a similar statement. So why single Brisbane out?

Maybe Geelong should be singled out for not issuing a statement.

 

[knaf]

Twenty years ago the vast majority of Australians refused to accept the date was a problem for a proportion of our population.

Now there are a lot of people who have thought about, and acknowledge that it causes pain.

You're right. That acknowledgment hasn't moved mountains and resolved problems. But acknowledging an issue is an important step in that process.

I am glad that the AFL and it's clubs are prepared to listen and to facilitate the opportunity for the wider population to listen. Big changes are made up of baby steps.

Yes it’s a journey. I remember when Rudd gave the apology a lot of people ar work ( black and white) thought it would change everything. It didn’t but it was a another step in overcoming entrenched disadvantage.

As a white man born in Australia, into a respectable working class family in the mid 50s, I acknowledge that I was very lucky. Almost like winning the birth right lottery.
However I find it hard to celebrate this luck when the majority of Australians didnt/don’t share this luck.

Would be much happier to celebrate this country on a day that represented diversity of culture and opinion, rather than Anglo aggression. A day on which we reflected on equality of opportunity for all citizens

anyway…..back to the footy.

 

[royboy2]

Every club, bar Geelong, has issued a similar statement. So why single Brisbane out?

One would assume because its our club, on a board about our club.

 

[Tom14]

They may have a strong issue with the date I don't either way and would not have any problem with a change. My point is that here we are discussing what is a politically divisive issue on a Football Club thread. Sport and Politics don't mix anywhere.

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I agree, footy should focus on things like selling commemorative Anzac Day guernseys and playing the national anthem before finals. Not this politics crap!!!!!!!!!??!?!??!?,?

 

[Crusha]

Yes it’s a journey. I remember when Rudd gave the apology a lot of people ar work ( black and white) thought it would change everything. It didn’t but it was a another step in overcoming entrenched disadvantage.

As a white man born in Australia, into a respectable working class family in the mid 50s, I acknowledge that I was very lucky. Almost like winning the birth right lottery.
However I find it hard to celebrate this luck when the majority of Australians didnt/don’t share this luck.

Would be much happier to celebrate this country on a day that represented diversity of culture and opinion, rather than Anglo aggression. A day on which we reflected on equality of opportunity for all citizens

anyway…..back to the footy.

 

[FFB1]

OK. I’ve been mulling this one over for a while now. I’ve decided to let it out, get it off my chest. It will make me feel better. I expect a bit of backlash, which is fine. I might also get some support. If I don’t, all good, I just gotta get it out.

I don’t follow the AFLW. I couldn’t tell you the name of one player who plays for the Lions. The only players I can name are Daisy Pearce and that Harris girl cos of the statue. I went as far as muting anything to do with AFLW on twitter. I left the Lions social media pages/groups (e.g Facebook) because I was getting tired of seeing posts about it. To me it’s like following the NBA and being spammed with stuff about the NBL.

Now do not get me wrong (might be too late for that). I don’t hate the AFLW. I just have absolutely zero interest in it. Just like I have no interest in soccer, Nadia Bartel and celebrities (all muted on twitter), for example. Selfishly, I’d love it if the club was to make a separate AFLW Lions Facebook page, and a separate AFLW twitter handle. Then I could just not follow it. Of course I know that’s never going to happen.

So there it is. Come at me if you feel the need to, that’s cool. No doubt some will call it sad, that’s ok too. I just couldn’t bottle it up any longer. Feels good letting it out.

I hope our women’s team do well, by the way.

 

[MSB ROYS]

OK. I’ve been mulling this one over for a while now. I’ve decided to let it out, get it off my chest. It will make me feel better. I expect a bit of backlash, which is fine. I might also get some support. If I don’t, all good, I just gotta get it out.

I don’t follow the AFLW. I couldn’t tell you the name of one player who plays for the Lions. The only players I can name are Daisy Pearce and that Harris girl cos of the statue. I went as far as muting anything to do with AFLW on twitter. I left the Lions social media pages/groups (e.g Facebook) because I was getting tired of seeing posts about it. To me it’s like following the NBA and being spammed with stuff about the NBL.

Now do not get me wrong (might be too late for that). I don’t hate the AFLW. I just have absolutely zero interest in it. Just like I have no interest in soccer, Nadia Bartel and celebrities (all muted on twitter), for example. Selfishly, I’d love it if the club was to make a separate AFLW Lions Facebook page, and a separate AFLW twitter handle. Then I could just not follow it. Of course I know that’s never going to happen.

So there it is. Come at me if you feel the need to, that’s cool. No doubt some will call it sad, that’s ok too. I just couldn’t bottle it up any longer. Feels good letting it out.

I hope our women’s team do well, by the way.

Everyone to their own, but I just wanted to say that there are separate twitter handles for the AFL, AFLW, VFL (@lions_vfl), academy (@LionsAcademy) and media (@lions_media). Sometimes they re-tweet each other.

 

[FFB1]

Everyone to their own, but I just wanted to say that there are separate twitter handles for the AFL, AFLW, VFL (@lions_vfl), academy (@LionsAcademy) and media (@lions_media). Sometimes they re-tweet each othe

Everyone to their own, but I just wanted to say that there are separate twitter handles for the AFL, AFLW, VFL (@lions_vfl), academy (@LionsAcademy) and media (@lions_media). Sometimes they re-tweet each other.

Yep. Can’t help the retweets, so I have no choice other than to cop that (which is fine).

Another one which grinds my gears is the Supercoach twitter and Facebook pages posting about AFLW, when its got nothing to do with Supercoach. Not just the AFLW though, articles about e.g. Buckley going on that jungle show. Again, to me, a bit like the NBA posting something about the NBL.

 

[Kernel Kurtz]

I'm also not adverse to a floating holiday. Say the last Friday or Monday of January. Guaranteed long weekends are always fun

KnOath mate.
It's non Australian to have Australia day mid week.

 

[Dalions]

OK. I’ve been mulling this one over for a while now. I’ve decided to let it out, get it off my chest. It will make me feel better. I expect a bit of backlash, which is fine. I might also get some support. If I don’t, all good, I just gotta get it out.

I don’t follow the AFLW. I couldn’t tell you the name of one player who plays for the Lions. The only players I can name are Daisy Pearce and that Harris girl cos of the statue. I went as far as muting anything to do with AFLW on twitter. I left the Lions social media pages/groups (e.g Facebook) because I was getting tired of seeing posts about it. To me it’s like following the NBA and being spammed with stuff about the NBL.

Now do not get me wrong (might be too late for that). I don’t hate the AFLW. I just have absolutely zero interest in it. Just like I have no interest in soccer, Nadia Bartel and celebrities (all muted on twitter), for example. Selfishly, I’d love it if the club was to make a separate AFLW Lions Facebook page, and a separate AFLW twitter handle. Then I could just not follow it. Of course I know that’s never going to happen.

So there it is. Come at me if you feel the need to, that’s cool. No doubt some will call it sad, that’s ok too. I just couldn’t bottle it up any longer. Feels good letting it out.

I hope our women’s team do well, by the way.

Instagram is completely separate.
Very rarely do you see AFLW stuff on the Brisbane Lions Insta account.

 

[Grasshopper17]

For me it’s the fact that this is another one of a long line of faux efforts to bridge the gap that will have zero effect on bettering the lives of (particularly remote-living) indigenous Australians. The 26th comes and goes and each year the majority of people demanding a date change on behalf of aboriginal people conveniently forget about tangible inequality issues until a week before the next Australia Day. Change it or not, nothing will really change

This is the exact reason I implored the club (on Twitter) to suggest a date. It's all very well to stand behind the "change the date" argument - 35% of the population is doing that (according to the polls), and have been doing so for years now. But if you actually believe in something, show it - move the debate forward.

Right now the argument can be made that all the club is doing is kowtowing to the prevailing politically correct movement, along with 16 other clubs. Now that argument may be considered pretty cynical. But it's just as likely to be the truth.

 

[On the quiet]

For me it’s the fact that this is another one of a long line of faux efforts to bridge the gap that will have zero effect on bettering the lives of (particularly remote-living) indigenous Australians. The 26th comes and goes and each year the majority of people demanding a date change on behalf of aboriginal people conveniently forget about tangible inequality issues until a week before the next Australia Day. Change it or not, nothing will really change

The Lions football club should not be getting political.

FWIW, and if it is going to appease the minority in the community who protest on the 26th each year, then I propose the 27 May the day of the 1967 National Referendum OR a day during NAIDOC week.

 

[Dalions]

This is the exact reason I implored the club (on Twitter) to suggest a date. It's all very well to stand behind the "change the date" argument - 35% of the population is doing that (according to the polls), and have been doing so for years now. But if you actually believe in something, show it - move the debate forward.

Right now the argument can be made that all the club is doing is kowtowing to the prevailing politically correct movement, along with 16 other clubs. Now that argument may be considered pretty cynical. But it's just as likely to be the truth.

Maybe it can be the date when we become a Replubic and an independent Nation

 

[wantok]

Interesting how quickly this discussion has evolved as people retreat into Political themes and Cliques. We now have opinions on:

Invasion day
Change the date
Aboriginal disadvantage
A disaffected ex PM
Equality in reporting of AFLW
LGBTIQ
White Privilege
Critical Race Theory
The Monarchy
A move to a Republic

Who would have thought? Maybe we should all just stick to the Football.

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[M Malice]

OK. I’ve been mulling this one over for a while now. I’ve decided to let it out, get it off my chest. It will make me feel better. I expect a bit of backlash, which is fine. I might also get some support. If I don’t, all good, I just gotta get it out.

I don’t follow the AFLW. I couldn’t tell you the name of one player who plays for the Lions. The only players I can name are Daisy Pearce and that Harris girl cos of the statue. I went as far as muting anything to do with AFLW on twitter. I left the Lions social media pages/groups (e.g Facebook) because I was getting tired of seeing posts about it. To me it’s like following the NBA and being spammed with stuff about the NBL.

Now do not get me wrong (might be too late for that). I don’t hate the AFLW. I just have absolutely zero interest in it. Just like I have no interest in soccer, Nadia Bartel and celebrities (all muted on twitter), for example. Selfishly, I’d love it if the club was to make a separate AFLW Lions Facebook page, and a separate AFLW twitter handle. Then I could just not follow it. Of course I know that’s never going to happen.

So there it is. Come at me if you feel the need to, that’s cool. No doubt some will call it sad, that’s ok too. I just couldn’t bottle it up any longer. Feels good letting it out.

I hope our women’s team do well, by the way.

I'm pretty much the same as you, in that >

I follow the English Premier League soccer but have no interest in the A league, it's all to to with the entertainment value/standard of play.

I take a passing minimal interest in some individual women's sport, the same as men's individual sports eg. Tennis, Golf, track running.

I have zero interest in any semi/professional women's team sports eg. AFL, soccer, cricket... the standard of play hence the spectator enjoyment for me is so low to be off putting and in some cases it's laughable in standard. I find more enjoyment from watching my 11 year old granddaughter playing junior AFL as I have a deeply personal emotional involvement in it, I have no sense of connection at all to the Lions women's team at the moment, that may change over time.

 

[briztoon]

The Lions football club should not be getting political.

FWIW, and if it is going to appease the minority in the community who protest on the 26th each year, then I propose the 27 May the day of the 1967 National Referendum OR a day during NAIDOC week.

Way to late.

The club does so many things that have a political bent behind it.

It’s just most people don’t even notice or register something, until it’s something they disagree with.

 

[FFB1]

I'm pretty much the same as you, in that >

I follow the English Premier League soccer but have no interest in the A league, it's all to to with the entertainment value/standard of play.

I take a passing minimal interest in some individual women's sport, the same as men's individual sports eg. Tennis, Golf, track running.

I have zero interest in any semi/professional women's team sports eg. AFL, soccer, cricket... the standard of play hence the spectator enjoyment for me is so low to be off putting and in some cases it's laughable in standard. I find more enjoyment from watching my 11 year old granddaughter playing junior AFL as I have a deeply personal emotional involvement in it, I have no sense of connection at all to the Lions women's team at the moment, that may change over time.

I can’t comment on the standard because I don’t watch it. I did try, back in season 1, but it was unbearable. Apparently it’s improved (I would hope it would have), but yeah I have no intention of watching it to find out.

 

[FFB1]

Instagram is completely separate.
Very rarely do you see AFLW stuff on the Brisbane Lions Insta account.

I don’t Instagram. I’ve got an account but the whole Instagram ‘influencer’ thing turned me right off bothering with it. Never see a twitter influencer.

 

[Section 5]

Interesting how quickly this discussion has evolved as people retreat into Political themes and Cliques. We now have opinions on:

Invasion day
Change the date
Aboriginal disadvantage
A disaffected ex PM
Equality in reporting of AFLW
LGBTIQ
White Privilege
Critical Race Theory
The Monarchy
A move to a Republic

Who would have thought? Maybe we should all just stick to the Football.

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Just reflects the offseason
I say the only way to fix this problem is to play AFL 11 months of the year

 

[KissKiss]

Im sure if we give it a few weeks we'll be back into the swing of preseason stories and Collingwood PR disasters