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2023 AFL Trade Period and the AFL Draft

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Current draft picks: done
2024 draft picks: 1st, 2nd, 4th (Fre), 4th (GC), 4th (WBU)

List changes:
Out: 7 - Ed Curnow (Ret), Plowman (Ret), O'Brien (Del), Philp (Del), Honey (Del), Fisher (Trade), Dow (Trade)
In: 6 - Rob Monahan (IIR-CatB), Elijah Hollands (Trade), Orazio Fantasia (DFA), Ashton Moir (pick 29), Billy Wilson (pick 34), Matthew Carroll (Rookie pick 15)
Uncontracted: 0.
Retained SSP Players: 2 - Cincotta, O'Keeffe
Upgraded Rookie: 1 - Cottrell

List status:
Senior - 36 (36-38)
Rookie - 6 (0-6)
Cat-B Rookie - 2 (0-2)
Total - 44 (44)

Free spots - 0

Note - Matt Duffy (Ireland) not included - assumption is he was not listed after injuring knee.

List Lodgment Dates: OPEN
Tue 31-Oct: List Lodgment 1 COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: Father/Son, NGA, Northern Academy bidding nominations close COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: International Scholarship Listed players inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Thu 9-Nov: List Lodgment 2 COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Father/Son Primary List lodgment close COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Players not registered for 3 years inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: International Players inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Wed 22-Nov: List Lodgment 3 (post National draft) COMPLETE
Thu 23-Nov: FINAL List Lodgment (post PSD & Rookie drafts) PENDING

The Draft:
Mon 20-Nov
Time 7pm: National Draft Round One COMPLETE
Tue 21-Nov
5.45pm - 6.30pm: Selection Trade period COMPLETE
7pm: National Draft Round Two to completion COMPLETE
Following completion of draft: Rookie Promotion to Primary List COMPLETE
Following completion of draft: Delisted Free Agency Period (3) COMPLETE
Wed 22-Nov
Northern Academy and NGA Academy eligible Pre-Selected Rookie and Father-Son Pre-Selected Rookie player nominations
3pm: AFL Pre-season Draft COMPLETE
3.20pm: AFL Rookie Draft COMPLETE

Supplementary Selection Period (SSP): PENDING
Mon 27-Nov 9am: SSP starts (players must have been on AFL list previously OR nominated for 2023 draft)
Mon 19-Feb 5pm: SSP ends


Draft Nominations: CLOSED
Tue 10-Oct 9am: AFL Draft Nominations open COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: Out-of-contract listed AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft) COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov 3pm: AFL Draft Nominations close COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Delisted AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft) COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Non-retained rookie list player draft nomination close COMPLETE

Player and Selection Trades: CLOSED
Mon 9-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Commences – Players & Selections COMPLETE
Wed 18-Oct 7.30pm: AFL Trade Period Closes – Players & Selections COMPLETE
Mon 23-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Opens – Selections Only COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: AFL Trade Period Closes –Selections Only COMPLETE

Delisted Free Agency Periods: CLOSED
Wed 01-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences COMPLETE
Wed 08-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes COMPLETE
(see also period 3 under "The Draft" section below)

Restricted/Unrestricted Free Agency Trades: CLOSED
Fri 6-Oct 9am: AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period Commences COMPLETE
Fri 13-Oct 5pm: Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period COMPLETE
Mon 16-Oct 5pm: AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends COMPLETE

Draft Combines: CLOSED
Fri 6-Oct to Sun 8-Oct: National Draft Combine COMPLETE
Sun 8-Oct: Victorian State Combine COMPLETE
Sat 14-Oct: SA/NT State Combine COMPLETE
Sun 15-Oct: WA State Combine COMPLETE

6-Oct
1. James Jordon to Sydney as UFA. Melbourne receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (40)
2. Matt Flynn to WCE as UFA. GWS receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (41)
8-Oct
3. Joel Hamling to Sydney as UFA. Fremantle do not receive any compensation.
9-Oct
4. Tom Doedee to Brisbane as RFA. Adelaide receive end of 1st round compensation (pick 20)
5. Pick Swap: GCS trade picks 5, 48, 53 and future 3rd (GC) to WBU in return for picks 11, 18 and future 1st rd (WBU)
6. Pick Swap: Freo trade pick 25 and future 2nd rd to Port for future 1st (Port)
7. Todd Goldstein to Essendon as UFA. No compensation for North Melbourne.
10-Oct
8. Ben McKay to Essendon as RFA. North Melbourne receive 1st round pick as compensation (3)
9. James Harmes to Western Bulldogs. Melbourne receive a future 3rd rd pick (WBU)
11-Oct
10. Dylan Stephens to North Melbourne with pick 26. Sydney receive a future end of first round (pick 19) and this year's pick 45.
11. Pick Swap: Melbourne receives pick 11. Gold Coast get 14, 28, 36 in return.
12. Chris Burgess and pick 14 to Adelaide. Gold Coast get picks 24 and 27.
13. Pick Swap: North Melbourne receive pick 18. Gold Coast gets future end of first round (pick 20) comp pick.
14. Brodie Grundy to Sydney. Melbourne receive pick 47 and future second round pick (Syd)
15. Taylor Adams to Sydney. Collingwood receive pick 34.
16. Zac Fisher to North Melbourne with pick 17. CARLTON receive picks 22 and 26.
13-Oct
17. Jade Gresham to Essendon as RFA. St Kilda receive end of 1st round compensation (pick 21)
18. Toby Pink to North Melbourne - delisted free agent.
19. Tom Fullarton to Melbourne. Brisbane receive pick 47 in return.
14-Oct
20. Tyler Brockman to West Coast Eagles. Hawthorn receive picks 44 and 63 in return.
16-Oct
21. Bigoa Nyuon to North Melbourne. Richmond receive pick 65.
22. Lachie Schultz to Collingwood. Fremantle receive pick 34 and a future first round pick (Col) in return.
23. Liam Henry and future round four (Fre) pick to St Kilda. Fremantle receive a future 2nd (StK) and future 4th (StK).
17-Oct
24. Shane McAdam to Melbourne. Adelaide receive a future second round pick (Mel) in return.
25. Multi-trade
.... CARLTON: Give - Paddy Dow, future 3rd (Car), future 4th (Car). Receive - future 3rd (Ess), future 4th (Fre), future 4th (WBU)
.... Essendon: Give - 52, future 3rd (Ess). Receive - pick 35, future 4th (Car)
.... St Kilda: Give - Nick Coffield, picks 35, 56, future 4th (Fre). Receive - Paddy Dow, pick 40, future 3rd (Car)
.... Western Bulldogs: Give - pick 40, future 4th (WBU). Receive - Nick Coffield, picks 52, 56
18-Oct
26. Ivan Soldo to Port Adelaide with pick 50. Richmond receive picks 41, 49 a future 2nd round (Fre) and future 4th round (PA).
27. Jack Ginnivan pick 39, future 2nd (Col) and future 4th (Col) to Hawthorn. Collingwood receive pick 33, future 2nd (Haw), future 3rd (Haw)
28. Jordan Sweet to Port Adelaide. Western Bulldogs receive pick 50 in return.
29. Esava Ratugolea to Port Adelaide. Geelong receive picks 25, 76 and 94.
30. Elijah Hollands to CARLTON with pick 28 and future 4th (GC). Gold Coast receive pick 26 and future 3rd (Ess).
31. Jacob Koschitzke to Richmond. Hawthorn receive pick 49.
32. Jack Billings to Melbourne. St Kilda receive a future 3rd round pick (Mel).
33. Multi-trade
.... Brisbane: Give - Jack Gunston, picks 47, 61, future 2nd round (Bri). Receive - Ryan, 39, 54, future 4th (Haw).
.... Hawthorn: Give - Brandon Ryan, picks 39, 54, future 4th round (Haw). Receive - Gunston, 47, 61, future 2nd (Bri).
34. Mabior Chol to Hawthorn with pick 62. Gold Coast receive a future 2nd round pick (Bri).
35. Massimo D'Ambrosio to Hawthorn. Essendon receive pick 61, future 4th round (Col)
36. Multi-trade
.... Essendon: Give - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, pick 73, future 4th round (Ess), future 4th round (Car). Receive - Xavier Duursma
.... Port Adelaide: Give - Xavier Duursma. Receive - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, 73, future 4th round (Ess), future 4th round (Car)





Nominated:
Elliott Himmelberg to GWS (Trade) - staying at GWS

Mooted:
Buku Khamis - staying at Dogs
Dylan Shiel
Clayton Oliver - Ade/Gee - staying at Melbourne
Ollie Wines
Dan McKenzie - Suns?
Scott Lycett
Tom Clurey
James Borlase
Brynn Teakle
Josh Sinn
Orazio Fantasia - GWS?
Sam Hayes
Harrison Petty


Potential DFA and Retiree moves:
TBA

Missed Out on trades:
TBA




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The Old Dark Navy's said:
I mean Ben McKay who had done precious little at the Roos, Goldstein at 35 years of age, and Gresham who Saints fans are glad to see the back of. Duursma is the main one who might offer something if he gets his touch back, assuming the deal gets done of course.
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this - I can't get over this - he's just a backman who looks like our forward...............he dun nuffink?
 
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HereComesJuddy said:
Either 26 and Dow for 21 or a future 3rd.

If SOS thinks he can get him for nothing in the PSD, good luck. There's a few teams before the Saints that may see Dow as a good fit for free
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Wouldn’t that work for Dow anyway? He still gets a contract, not like Voss has him in his plans, where ever he ends up he has a better chance to prove himself as he’s not pigeon holed.
If he’s good enough he plays - or am I missing something?
 

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HarryFlashman said:
Wouldn’t that work for Dow anyway? He still gets a contract, not like Voss has him in his plans, where ever he ends up he has a better chance to prove himself as he’s not pigeon holed.
If he’s good enough he plays - or am I missing something?
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Of course that's good for Dow. The point was in relation to if SOS doesn't want to trade for him, the Saints run the risk of another club nabbing him
 
thylacine60 said:
this - I can't get over this - he's just a backman who looks like our forward...............he dun nuffink?
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True, overall he has produced mostly bugger all, seasons 20 & 21 from memory was when he produced flashes of his best footy…
Injuries have been a big factor early days but the overall contract length and price if * ridiculous on pure output…
LoL ******* Good luck to Ben..

2017 - 1
2018 - 0
2019 - 3
2020 - 11
2021 - 22
2022 - 15
2023 - 19
 
swuzzlebubble said:
Dow + 26 for 21 to us.
26 to Freo for Henry to StK.
Who says no?
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That's actually a great trade scenario that everyone would be happy with.......well, except SOS of course who's never happy.
Gives Freo an early 2nd round pick which is what they stated they were after, and Aints effectively get Henry and Dow for Gresham.
It values Dow at pick 60, but gives us something we can actually use.
 
HereComesJuddy said:
Of course that's good for Dow. The point was in relation to if SOS doesn't want to trade for him, the Saints run the risk of another club nabbing him
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I was thinking that he could put a number on his head $ & contract length (not sure if u can in that situation) - if so he puts forward the terms as agreed with SOS & he either gets there or gets the terms he’s after.
Would be pretty rare for someone else to pick him up
 

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HarryFlashman said:
I was thinking that he could put a number on his head $ & contract length (not sure if u can in that situation) - if so he puts forward the terms as agreed with SOS & he either gets there or gets the terms he’s after.
Would be pretty rare for someone else to pick him up
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If it's going via PSD Saints probably get him to nominate a bit more to make it more likely he gets through, which is if course better again for Dow.
 
Opium said:
We've lost 3 mids in the past 12 months. Setterfield, Dow and Ed. Not including Fisher. We need to pick up some mids either through the draft or free agency. Our midfield depth which was a strength is now weakness.
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I wouldn’t say our midfield is weak from losing Setterfield, Dow and Ed. Neither of them were top performers even so to have made the prelim squad.

We have Binns and Carroll just waiting putting pressure on our midfield group so that’s a positive as both can play. Also if we do get EHollands I’d expect he will gain midfield minutes in 2024.

I do however think we need 2 more from the draft that can play mid or mid/forward. Charlie Edwards would be a great get and I’ve been big on adding mature recruit Shaun Mannagh.

I also think our biggest win in 2024 will be getting Williams back from injury and expect he will float through the midfield from time to time.

My only concern with our midfield is that it’s too one paced and we need some burst and x-factor in there and maybe that’s where Mannagh and Williams can come into play.
 
HereComesJuddy said:
I wouldn’t say our midfield is weak from losing Setterfield, Dow and Ed. Neither of them were top performers even so to have made the prelim squad.

We have Binns and Carroll just waiting putting pressure on our midfield group so that’s a positive as both can play. Also if we do get EHollands I’d expect he will gain midfield minutes in 2024.

I do however think we need 2 more from the draft that can play mid or mid/forward. Charlie Edwards would be a great get and I’ve been big on adding mature recruit Shaun Mannagh.

I also think our biggest win in 2024 will be getting Williams back from injury and expect he will float through the midfield from time to time.

My only concern with our midfield is that it’s too one paced and we need some burst and x-factor in there and maybe that’s where Mannagh and Williams can come into play.
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Carrol has shown very little, Binns has shown exactly nothing as a mid (think he will be a ripper but had 0 exposure as a mid)
Williams isn’t a mid, especially coming off a prolonged absence. Even Doc does sfa when he’s in the middle (stats don’t lie)

Really wish that anyone who can football a bit wasn’t then thrown up as a candidate to be a mid - it’s a specialist position, sure there’s some extremely talented small forwards who can rotate thru & kill it, but they are the elite (Papley, Greene etc) & an exception not the standard.

Im hoping E Hollands can come in and perform - but that’s hope, hasn’t got runs on the board but I think he’s an improvement on Cunners/Fog as a rotation
 
Cripps
Cerra
Walsh
Hewitt
Kennedy
Hollands
Doc
Carroll
Binns

Zac Williams ??

Plenty of mid options…we take another one in the draft or trade up to secure a more highly rated mid

2025 Campo twins…plus FA targets I think we will be okay


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Navy Blues 73 said:
‘They’ve gone bang!’ Bombers ‘big winners’ as trio arrive, prized pick remains

Essendon are looming as one of the “big trade winners” after securing three players – and still managing to hold onto their prized pick 9 in the upcoming Draft.

It's already begun. 🙄
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Montagna believes McKay’s inclusion at the Bombers will play a crucial role in their finals hopes – comparing the backman to Lions’ star Harris Andrews.
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Opium said:
We've lost 3 mids in the past 12 months. Setterfield, Dow and Ed. Not including Fisher. We need to pick up some mids either through the draft or free agency. Our midfield depth which was a strength is now weakness.
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Binns and Carrol coming through tho. Hopefully one of them is big enough to handle fulltime mid role in the future?

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I could see Binns becoming a balanced on-baller if he can add some size. Absolute ball magnet, good in tight, great disposal. Even though the talk is O.Hollands to eventually become a mid with Binns on a wing I could see the opposite. Hollands for me looks a lot better in space while Binns is great under pressure. Their respective kicking techniques contribute to that. Ollie has a bit of windup which gives opponents the opportunity to affect his disposal while Binns is great on both sides and has a more compact technique.
 
marcmurphy3 said:
I could see Binns becoming a balanced on-baller if he can add some size. Absolute ball magnet, good in tight, great disposal. Even though the talk is O.Hollands to eventually become a mid with Binns on a wing I could see the opposite. Hollands for me looks a lot better in space while Binns is great under pressure. Their respective kicking techniques contribute to that. Ollie has a bit of windup which gives opponents the opportunity to affect his disposal while Binns is great on both sides and has a more compact technique.
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Binns & ZWilliams rotating in our midfield will give us some zip :)
 

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