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2023 AFL Trade Period and the AFL Draft

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Current draft picks: done
2024 draft picks: 1st, 2nd, 4th (Fre), 4th (GC), 4th (WBU)

List changes:
Out: 7 - Ed Curnow (Ret), Plowman (Ret), O'Brien (Del), Philp (Del), Honey (Del), Fisher (Trade), Dow (Trade)
In: 6 - Rob Monahan (IIR-CatB), Elijah Hollands (Trade), Orazio Fantasia (DFA), Ashton Moir (pick 29), Billy Wilson (pick 34), Matthew Carroll (Rookie pick 15)
Uncontracted: 0.
Retained SSP Players: 2 - Cincotta, O'Keeffe
Upgraded Rookie: 1 - Cottrell

List status:
Senior - 36 (36-38)
Rookie - 6 (0-6)
Cat-B Rookie - 2 (0-2)
Total - 44 (44)

Free spots - 0

Note - Matt Duffy (Ireland) not included - assumption is he was not listed after injuring knee.

List Lodgment Dates: OPEN
Tue 31-Oct: List Lodgment 1 COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: Father/Son, NGA, Northern Academy bidding nominations close COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: International Scholarship Listed players inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Thu 9-Nov: List Lodgment 2 COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Father/Son Primary List lodgment close COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Players not registered for 3 years inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: International Players inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Wed 22-Nov: List Lodgment 3 (post National draft) COMPLETE
Thu 23-Nov: FINAL List Lodgment (post PSD & Rookie drafts) PENDING

The Draft:
Mon 20-Nov
Time 7pm: National Draft Round One COMPLETE
Tue 21-Nov
5.45pm - 6.30pm: Selection Trade period COMPLETE
7pm: National Draft Round Two to completion COMPLETE
Following completion of draft: Rookie Promotion to Primary List COMPLETE
Following completion of draft: Delisted Free Agency Period (3) COMPLETE
Wed 22-Nov
Northern Academy and NGA Academy eligible Pre-Selected Rookie and Father-Son Pre-Selected Rookie player nominations
3pm: AFL Pre-season Draft COMPLETE
3.20pm: AFL Rookie Draft COMPLETE

Supplementary Selection Period (SSP): PENDING
Mon 27-Nov 9am: SSP starts (players must have been on AFL list previously OR nominated for 2023 draft)
Mon 19-Feb 5pm: SSP ends


Draft Nominations: CLOSED
Tue 10-Oct 9am: AFL Draft Nominations open COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: Out-of-contract listed AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft) COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov 3pm: AFL Draft Nominations close COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Delisted AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft) COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Non-retained rookie list player draft nomination close COMPLETE

Player and Selection Trades: CLOSED
Mon 9-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Commences – Players & Selections COMPLETE
Wed 18-Oct 7.30pm: AFL Trade Period Closes – Players & Selections COMPLETE
Mon 23-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Opens – Selections Only COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: AFL Trade Period Closes –Selections Only COMPLETE

Delisted Free Agency Periods: CLOSED
Wed 01-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences COMPLETE
Wed 08-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes COMPLETE
(see also period 3 under "The Draft" section below)

Restricted/Unrestricted Free Agency Trades: CLOSED
Fri 6-Oct 9am: AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period Commences COMPLETE
Fri 13-Oct 5pm: Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period COMPLETE
Mon 16-Oct 5pm: AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends COMPLETE

Draft Combines: CLOSED
Fri 6-Oct to Sun 8-Oct: National Draft Combine COMPLETE
Sun 8-Oct: Victorian State Combine COMPLETE
Sat 14-Oct: SA/NT State Combine COMPLETE
Sun 15-Oct: WA State Combine COMPLETE

6-Oct
1. James Jordon to Sydney as UFA. Melbourne receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (40)
2. Matt Flynn to WCE as UFA. GWS receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (41)
8-Oct
3. Joel Hamling to Sydney as UFA. Fremantle do not receive any compensation.
9-Oct
4. Tom Doedee to Brisbane as RFA. Adelaide receive end of 1st round compensation (pick 20)
5. Pick Swap: GCS trade picks 5, 48, 53 and future 3rd (GC) to WBU in return for picks 11, 18 and future 1st rd (WBU)
6. Pick Swap: Freo trade pick 25 and future 2nd rd to Port for future 1st (Port)
7. Todd Goldstein to Essendon as UFA. No compensation for North Melbourne.
10-Oct
8. Ben McKay to Essendon as RFA. North Melbourne receive 1st round pick as compensation (3)
9. James Harmes to Western Bulldogs. Melbourne receive a future 3rd rd pick (WBU)
11-Oct
10. Dylan Stephens to North Melbourne with pick 26. Sydney receive a future end of first round (pick 19) and this year's pick 45.
11. Pick Swap: Melbourne receives pick 11. Gold Coast get 14, 28, 36 in return.
12. Chris Burgess and pick 14 to Adelaide. Gold Coast get picks 24 and 27.
13. Pick Swap: North Melbourne receive pick 18. Gold Coast gets future end of first round (pick 20) comp pick.
14. Brodie Grundy to Sydney. Melbourne receive pick 47 and future second round pick (Syd)
15. Taylor Adams to Sydney. Collingwood receive pick 34.
16. Zac Fisher to North Melbourne with pick 17. CARLTON receive picks 22 and 26.
13-Oct
17. Jade Gresham to Essendon as RFA. St Kilda receive end of 1st round compensation (pick 21)
18. Toby Pink to North Melbourne - delisted free agent.
19. Tom Fullarton to Melbourne. Brisbane receive pick 47 in return.
14-Oct
20. Tyler Brockman to West Coast Eagles. Hawthorn receive picks 44 and 63 in return.
16-Oct
21. Bigoa Nyuon to North Melbourne. Richmond receive pick 65.
22. Lachie Schultz to Collingwood. Fremantle receive pick 34 and a future first round pick (Col) in return.
23. Liam Henry and future round four (Fre) pick to St Kilda. Fremantle receive a future 2nd (StK) and future 4th (StK).
17-Oct
24. Shane McAdam to Melbourne. Adelaide receive a future second round pick (Mel) in return.
25. Multi-trade
.... CARLTON: Give - Paddy Dow, future 3rd (Car), future 4th (Car). Receive - future 3rd (Ess), future 4th (Fre), future 4th (WBU)
.... Essendon: Give - 52, future 3rd (Ess). Receive - pick 35, future 4th (Car)
.... St Kilda: Give - Nick Coffield, picks 35, 56, future 4th (Fre). Receive - Paddy Dow, pick 40, future 3rd (Car)
.... Western Bulldogs: Give - pick 40, future 4th (WBU). Receive - Nick Coffield, picks 52, 56
18-Oct
26. Ivan Soldo to Port Adelaide with pick 50. Richmond receive picks 41, 49 a future 2nd round (Fre) and future 4th round (PA).
27. Jack Ginnivan pick 39, future 2nd (Col) and future 4th (Col) to Hawthorn. Collingwood receive pick 33, future 2nd (Haw), future 3rd (Haw)
28. Jordan Sweet to Port Adelaide. Western Bulldogs receive pick 50 in return.
29. Esava Ratugolea to Port Adelaide. Geelong receive picks 25, 76 and 94.
30. Elijah Hollands to CARLTON with pick 28 and future 4th (GC). Gold Coast receive pick 26 and future 3rd (Ess).
31. Jacob Koschitzke to Richmond. Hawthorn receive pick 49.
32. Jack Billings to Melbourne. St Kilda receive a future 3rd round pick (Mel).
33. Multi-trade
.... Brisbane: Give - Jack Gunston, picks 47, 61, future 2nd round (Bri). Receive - Ryan, 39, 54, future 4th (Haw).
.... Hawthorn: Give - Brandon Ryan, picks 39, 54, future 4th round (Haw). Receive - Gunston, 47, 61, future 2nd (Bri).
34. Mabior Chol to Hawthorn with pick 62. Gold Coast receive a future 2nd round pick (Bri).
35. Massimo D'Ambrosio to Hawthorn. Essendon receive pick 61, future 4th round (Col)
36. Multi-trade
.... Essendon: Give - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, pick 73, future 4th round (Ess), future 4th round (Car). Receive - Xavier Duursma
.... Port Adelaide: Give - Xavier Duursma. Receive - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, 73, future 4th round (Ess), future 4th round (Car)





Nominated:
Elliott Himmelberg to GWS (Trade) - staying at GWS

Mooted:
Buku Khamis - staying at Dogs
Dylan Shiel
Clayton Oliver - Ade/Gee - staying at Melbourne
Ollie Wines
Dan McKenzie - Suns?
Scott Lycett
Tom Clurey
James Borlase
Brynn Teakle
Josh Sinn
Orazio Fantasia - GWS?
Sam Hayes
Harrison Petty


Potential DFA and Retiree moves:
TBA

Missed Out on trades:
TBA




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Indicative Draft Order

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HarryFlashman said:
Carrol has shown very little, Binns has shown exactly nothing as a mid (think he will be a ripper but had 0 exposure as a mid)
Williams isn’t a mid, especially coming off a prolonged absence. Even Doc does sfa when he’s in the middle (stats don’t lie)

Really wish that anyone who can football a bit wasn’t then thrown up as a candidate to be a mid - it’s a specialist position, sure there’s some extremely talented small forwards who can rotate thru & kill it, but they are the elite (Papley, Greene etc) & an exception not the standard.

Im hoping E Hollands can come in and perform - but that’s hope, hasn’t got runs on the board but I think he’s an improvement on Cunners/Fog as a rotation
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I do think Carroll showed a bit last year in the middle. I think we had a midfielder out so he got his shot and did well by memory but when the midfielder returned they tried to get him as high half forward and he didn't go so well. High H F is a tough gig
 

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HarryFlashman said:
Carrol has shown very little, Binns has shown exactly nothing as a mid (think he will be a ripper but had 0 exposure as a mid)
Williams isn’t a mid, especially coming off a prolonged absence. Even Doc does sfa when he’s in the middle (stats don’t lie)

Really wish that anyone who can football a bit wasn’t then thrown up as a candidate to be a mid - it’s a specialist position, sure there’s some extremely talented small forwards who can rotate thru & kill it, but they are the elite (Papley, Greene etc) & an exception not the standard.

Im hoping E Hollands can come in and perform - but that’s hope, hasn’t got runs on the board but I think he’s an improvement on Cunners/Fog as a rotation
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Also carroll is still only 20. I still have high hopes for him
 
Bundy Bear Bogan said:
I do think Carroll showed a bit last year in the middle. I think we had a midfielder out so he got his shot and did well by memory but when the midfielder returned they tried to get him as high half forward and he didn't go so well. High H F is a tough gig
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Carroll was always going to be a slow burn
 
Matty411 said:
$600k now or ever is too much for Ben McKay.
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Yeh I get some don’t rate him highly but I doubt there is any true key defender as good as him getting less then $600k atm especially one you get for free as a FA.
I think his injuries are also some what exaggerated. I read that since coming back into the side in 2020 at round 7 or something he has only missed 10 odd games, about the exact same as Harry over three and a half years.
 
DangerousD said:
Why would WC offer a high 3rd and early 4th round pick for Brockman, when they have pick 1 in the PSD.

I like the idea of being civil and good to deal with, but this seems very generous by WC
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Because WC don't appear to be as mercenary as 'The Family Club'.
Boy is that club's culture going south very fast.

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On the move: Hawks, Eagles agree to trade for speedy forward

Tyler Brockman has got his wish to be traded to West Coast
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Bundy Bear Bogan said:
Those 1st could of games in the middle he seemed to have time and space like he had played 50+ games. I remember telling my daughter he's a 200 game player for us. I hope I'm right
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Hope you're right.. I said the same about Jon Hynes once 😣
 
Manhattanite said:
The crazy thing is as per the AFL compensation make up thingy, Ben McKay (who is an average defender but could become an above average KPD) is worth pick 3 for his old team and Lance Franklin was valued at pick 19 when he left the Hawks
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When you spell it out like that - it's just plain wrong.
The AFL def have learn to keep the value of the player separate from the club's current predicament.
 

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Garters said:
Doesn't matter, those that think trade week is about improving the list are over thinking it. It is for obnoxious Egophiles to prance around and show how tough their bargaining modus operandi is. (Not looking at anyone in particular Dordoro, SOS)
Dordoro 3 FA's
Carlton 0
* Dodoro beating us convincingly as it currently stands.....

Long may they never play finals whilst that knob is driving the recruiting bus.
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I believe I heard on SEN that this is his last Draft as he is stepping aside from the job
 
BlueTongue said:
I believe I heard on SEN that this is his last Draft as he is stepping aside from the job
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Long-time Bombers recruiter to step back, ex-Eagle joins

Adrian Dodoro will soon leave his senior role at the Bombers, with Matt Rosa to join the club
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VETERAN Essendon list manager Adrian Dodoro will step back from his senior role at the Bombers after this year's national draft in another major change to the club's football department.

The move comes as former West Coast and Gold Coast player Matt Rosa joins in the position of AFL Talent & Operations Manager.
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The Old Dark Navy's said:
I mean Ben McKay who had done precious little at the Roos, Goldstein at 35 years of age, and Gresham who Saints fans are glad to see the back of. Duursma is the main one who might offer something if he gets his touch back, assuming the deal gets done of course.
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Never mind his football ability, those eyebrows would have me calling for his head :eek:
 
BlueTongue said:
Because WC don't appear to be as mercenary as 'The Family Club'.
Boy is that club's culture going south very fast.

www.afl.com.au

On the move: Hawks, Eagles agree to trade for speedy forward

Tyler Brockman has got his wish to be traded to West Coast
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WC already offering pick 44 for a player they could get for free is acting in fantastic faith, for the Hawks to knock it back is strange.

WC should have walked away and taken him for free.

I still think the Hawks finish bottom 6 next year, so their offer for pick 1 was actually quite generous.

I would have been tempted by that
 
BlueTongue said:
Except it gave free reign for Sydney to pillage Hawthorn on that deal
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The Buddy deal? Hawks certainly stiffed - but pick 19 is better than nothing (if compensation didn't exist). AFL would probably say that's an example of free agency working as designed. Player gets to go to club of their choice. Club gets compensated at a rate commensurate to their position on the ladder. But when it's applied to the best player in the comp leaving the premier side, pick 19 doesn't seem enough.

imo,(1) I don't like compensation as a starting point; but (2) if it has to be there, then the formula is wrong; (3) the acquiring club should bear the cost, or at least some of it.
 
DangerousD said:
Seperate to this, why is it the AFLs job to compensate clubs when a player leaves?
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The argument is that it is necessary because the AFL differs from other sports in that clubs aren't allowed to trade contracted players without their consent.
The salary cap floor also limits poorer clubs ability to transform their list.

If we accept the above 2 limiting aspects, I think they really need to get rid of Restricted Free Agency, so we don't get debacles like Ben McKay and Gresham, where unreasonable contracts are manufactured in order to get clubs better compo.
And/or, I would change compo to only 3 bands to be taken End of 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounds.
FA compensation ****s over 16 clubs in every deal. That would be lessened if the picks were all moved to the end of the round.
 

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