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2023 AFL Trade Period and the AFL Draft

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Current draft picks: done
2024 draft picks: 1st, 2nd, 4th (Fre), 4th (GC), 4th (WBU)

List changes:
Out: 7 - Ed Curnow (Ret), Plowman (Ret), O'Brien (Del), Philp (Del), Honey (Del), Fisher (Trade), Dow (Trade)
In: 6 - Rob Monahan (IIR-CatB), Elijah Hollands (Trade), Orazio Fantasia (DFA), Ashton Moir (pick 29), Billy Wilson (pick 34), Matthew Carroll (Rookie pick 15)
Uncontracted: 0.
Retained SSP Players: 2 - Cincotta, O'Keeffe
Upgraded Rookie: 1 - Cottrell

List status:
Senior - 36 (36-38)
Rookie - 6 (0-6)
Cat-B Rookie - 2 (0-2)
Total - 44 (44)

Free spots - 0

Note - Matt Duffy (Ireland) not included - assumption is he was not listed after injuring knee.

List Lodgment Dates: OPEN
Tue 31-Oct: List Lodgment 1 COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: Father/Son, NGA, Northern Academy bidding nominations close COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: International Scholarship Listed players inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Thu 9-Nov: List Lodgment 2 COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Father/Son Primary List lodgment close COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Players not registered for 3 years inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: International Players inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Wed 22-Nov: List Lodgment 3 (post National draft) COMPLETE
Thu 23-Nov: FINAL List Lodgment (post PSD & Rookie drafts) PENDING

The Draft:
Mon 20-Nov
Time 7pm: National Draft Round One COMPLETE
Tue 21-Nov
5.45pm - 6.30pm: Selection Trade period COMPLETE
7pm: National Draft Round Two to completion COMPLETE
Following completion of draft: Rookie Promotion to Primary List COMPLETE
Following completion of draft: Delisted Free Agency Period (3) COMPLETE
Wed 22-Nov
Northern Academy and NGA Academy eligible Pre-Selected Rookie and Father-Son Pre-Selected Rookie player nominations
3pm: AFL Pre-season Draft COMPLETE
3.20pm: AFL Rookie Draft COMPLETE

Supplementary Selection Period (SSP): PENDING
Mon 27-Nov 9am: SSP starts (players must have been on AFL list previously OR nominated for 2023 draft)
Mon 19-Feb 5pm: SSP ends


Draft Nominations: CLOSED
Tue 10-Oct 9am: AFL Draft Nominations open COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: Out-of-contract listed AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft) COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov 3pm: AFL Draft Nominations close COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Delisted AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft) COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Non-retained rookie list player draft nomination close COMPLETE

Player and Selection Trades: CLOSED
Mon 9-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Commences – Players & Selections COMPLETE
Wed 18-Oct 7.30pm: AFL Trade Period Closes – Players & Selections COMPLETE
Mon 23-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Opens – Selections Only COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: AFL Trade Period Closes –Selections Only COMPLETE

Delisted Free Agency Periods: CLOSED
Wed 01-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences COMPLETE
Wed 08-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes COMPLETE
(see also period 3 under "The Draft" section below)

Restricted/Unrestricted Free Agency Trades: CLOSED
Fri 6-Oct 9am: AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period Commences COMPLETE
Fri 13-Oct 5pm: Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period COMPLETE
Mon 16-Oct 5pm: AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends COMPLETE

Draft Combines: CLOSED
Fri 6-Oct to Sun 8-Oct: National Draft Combine COMPLETE
Sun 8-Oct: Victorian State Combine COMPLETE
Sat 14-Oct: SA/NT State Combine COMPLETE
Sun 15-Oct: WA State Combine COMPLETE

6-Oct
1. James Jordon to Sydney as UFA. Melbourne receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (40)
2. Matt Flynn to WCE as UFA. GWS receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (41)
8-Oct
3. Joel Hamling to Sydney as UFA. Fremantle do not receive any compensation.
9-Oct
4. Tom Doedee to Brisbane as RFA. Adelaide receive end of 1st round compensation (pick 20)
5. Pick Swap: GCS trade picks 5, 48, 53 and future 3rd (GC) to WBU in return for picks 11, 18 and future 1st rd (WBU)
6. Pick Swap: Freo trade pick 25 and future 2nd rd to Port for future 1st (Port)
7. Todd Goldstein to Essendon as UFA. No compensation for North Melbourne.
10-Oct
8. Ben McKay to Essendon as RFA. North Melbourne receive 1st round pick as compensation (3)
9. James Harmes to Western Bulldogs. Melbourne receive a future 3rd rd pick (WBU)
11-Oct
10. Dylan Stephens to North Melbourne with pick 26. Sydney receive a future end of first round (pick 19) and this year's pick 45.
11. Pick Swap: Melbourne receives pick 11. Gold Coast get 14, 28, 36 in return.
12. Chris Burgess and pick 14 to Adelaide. Gold Coast get picks 24 and 27.
13. Pick Swap: North Melbourne receive pick 18. Gold Coast gets future end of first round (pick 20) comp pick.
14. Brodie Grundy to Sydney. Melbourne receive pick 47 and future second round pick (Syd)
15. Taylor Adams to Sydney. Collingwood receive pick 34.
16. Zac Fisher to North Melbourne with pick 17. CARLTON receive picks 22 and 26.
13-Oct
17. Jade Gresham to Essendon as RFA. St Kilda receive end of 1st round compensation (pick 21)
18. Toby Pink to North Melbourne - delisted free agent.
19. Tom Fullarton to Melbourne. Brisbane receive pick 47 in return.
14-Oct
20. Tyler Brockman to West Coast Eagles. Hawthorn receive picks 44 and 63 in return.
16-Oct
21. Bigoa Nyuon to North Melbourne. Richmond receive pick 65.
22. Lachie Schultz to Collingwood. Fremantle receive pick 34 and a future first round pick (Col) in return.
23. Liam Henry and future round four (Fre) pick to St Kilda. Fremantle receive a future 2nd (StK) and future 4th (StK).
17-Oct
24. Shane McAdam to Melbourne. Adelaide receive a future second round pick (Mel) in return.
25. Multi-trade
.... CARLTON: Give - Paddy Dow, future 3rd (Car), future 4th (Car). Receive - future 3rd (Ess), future 4th (Fre), future 4th (WBU)
.... Essendon: Give - 52, future 3rd (Ess). Receive - pick 35, future 4th (Car)
.... St Kilda: Give - Nick Coffield, picks 35, 56, future 4th (Fre). Receive - Paddy Dow, pick 40, future 3rd (Car)
.... Western Bulldogs: Give - pick 40, future 4th (WBU). Receive - Nick Coffield, picks 52, 56
18-Oct
26. Ivan Soldo to Port Adelaide with pick 50. Richmond receive picks 41, 49 a future 2nd round (Fre) and future 4th round (PA).
27. Jack Ginnivan pick 39, future 2nd (Col) and future 4th (Col) to Hawthorn. Collingwood receive pick 33, future 2nd (Haw), future 3rd (Haw)
28. Jordan Sweet to Port Adelaide. Western Bulldogs receive pick 50 in return.
29. Esava Ratugolea to Port Adelaide. Geelong receive picks 25, 76 and 94.
30. Elijah Hollands to CARLTON with pick 28 and future 4th (GC). Gold Coast receive pick 26 and future 3rd (Ess).
31. Jacob Koschitzke to Richmond. Hawthorn receive pick 49.
32. Jack Billings to Melbourne. St Kilda receive a future 3rd round pick (Mel).
33. Multi-trade
.... Brisbane: Give - Jack Gunston, picks 47, 61, future 2nd round (Bri). Receive - Ryan, 39, 54, future 4th (Haw).
.... Hawthorn: Give - Brandon Ryan, picks 39, 54, future 4th round (Haw). Receive - Gunston, 47, 61, future 2nd (Bri).
34. Mabior Chol to Hawthorn with pick 62. Gold Coast receive a future 2nd round pick (Bri).
35. Massimo D'Ambrosio to Hawthorn. Essendon receive pick 61, future 4th round (Col)
36. Multi-trade
.... Essendon: Give - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, pick 73, future 4th round (Ess), future 4th round (Car). Receive - Xavier Duursma
.... Port Adelaide: Give - Xavier Duursma. Receive - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, 73, future 4th round (Ess), future 4th round (Car)





Nominated:
Elliott Himmelberg to GWS (Trade) - staying at GWS

Mooted:
Buku Khamis - staying at Dogs
Dylan Shiel
Clayton Oliver - Ade/Gee - staying at Melbourne
Ollie Wines
Dan McKenzie - Suns?
Scott Lycett
Tom Clurey
James Borlase
Brynn Teakle
Josh Sinn
Orazio Fantasia - GWS?
Sam Hayes
Harrison Petty


Potential DFA and Retiree moves:
TBA

Missed Out on trades:
TBA




Full AFL Trade/Draft Key Dates

Official AFL Trade Hub

Official AFL Trade Tracker

Official AFL Draft Hub

Indicative Draft Order

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thylacine60 said:
the average footy supporter has little to no idea of the various moving parts and possible permutations involved in a player trade - discuss....
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Good call. Humble call. Right on the money call, Hutchy..... I mean Thy.

A lot of the time, I see posters saying something like 'Hey, we should have gone after Henry!' (as an example). But you know what, who knows that we didn't?

A player on the move would nominate a club based on
  • Salary offer
  • Years offered
  • Role / place in best 22
  • State / location of club
  • Where the club is on the 'premiership window'
  • What the club's vision is
  • Club culture
  • Off-field opportunities
  • Players / coaches they know at the new club
  • Salary cap room
  • Available picks / draft capital to make a deal happen
  • How high up the player is in the new club's priority list
  • And more...
You can't pick up every player available in trade week. We might only see 2-3 targets linked to us in public each trade period, but I am sure our list mgmt team has spoken to 5-10 times that many players throughout the year.

Once a player has nominated a club, the 'hey, we should get in his ear' is usually pointless. By that stage, a deal is probably already done in principle and if we were interested we would likely have already done our due diligence already.

For every player we 'miss', we probably weren't interested or we were in discussions but our overall offer (all the factors above) was trumped by someone else.

TL;DR - I reckon what we see in public is <10% of the wheeling and dealing the List Mgmt team would do behind closed doors
 
ferrisb said:
Good call. Humble call. Right on the money call, Hutchy..... I mean Thy.

A lot of the time, I see posters saying something like 'Hey, we should have gone after Henry!' (as an example). But you know what, who knows that we didn't?

A player on the move would nominate a club based on
  • Salary offer
  • Years offered
  • Role / place in best 22
  • State / location of club
  • Where the club is on the 'premiership window'
  • What the club's vision is
  • Club culture
  • Off-field opportunities
  • Players / coaches they know at the new club
  • Salary cap room
  • Available picks / draft capital to make a deal happen
  • How high up the player is in the new club's priority list
  • And more...
You can't pick up every player available in trade week. We might only see 2-3 targets linked to us in public each trade period, but I am sure our list mgmt team has spoken to 5-10 times that many players throughout the year.

Once a player has nominated a club, the 'hey, we should get in his ear' is usually pointless. By that stage, a deal is probably already done in principle and if we were interested we would likely have already done our due diligence already.

For every player we 'miss', we probably weren't interested or we were in discussions but our overall offer (all the factors above) was trumped by someone else.

TL;DR - I reckon what we see in public is <10% of the wheeling and dealing the List Mgmt team would do behind closed doors
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Not to mention, particularly interstate moves, partner opportunities, kids schooling, good bakeries....
 
Reading Cal Twomeys phantom form guide today makes me feel there’s nothing exciting going to be available past pick 15 or 20. Austin will know better but I do feel we have enough depth and we may have to sacrifice some depth and trade our first two picks plus the future first to get a best 22 player at pick 8. Personally would prefer that one potential gun at pick 8 versus 3 potentially handy depth players with the other 3 picks. Can always rookie or get supplemental picks to fill out the list later.




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Manhattanite said:
Reading Cal Twomeys phantom form guide today makes me feel there’s nothing exciting going to be available past pick 15 or 20. Austin will know better but I do feel we have enough depth and we may have to sacrifice some depth and trade our first two picks plus the future first to get a best 22 player at pick 8. Personally would prefer that one potential gun at pick 8 versus 3 potentially handy depth players with the other 3 picks. Can always rookie or get supplemental picks to fill out the list later.




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hear what you're saying but............shall I go through previous years drafts and pull out a few "nothing exciting past pick 15 or 20" players?
 
ferrisb said:
Zac Williams will slot back into the HBF, giving us run and skills out of the backline.

None of this mifdield, defensive fwd rubbish.

Thank you Nick.
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Disappointed.
Thought he might be good as a ruck option.
Ah well.
 
ferrisb said:
Good call. Humble call. Right on the money call, Hutchy..... I mean Thy.

A lot of the time, I see posters saying something like 'Hey, we should have gone after Henry!' (as an example). But you know what, who knows that we didn't?

A player on the move would nominate a club based on
  • Salary offer
  • Years offered
  • Role / place in best 22
  • State / location of club
  • Where the club is on the 'premiership window'
  • What the club's vision is
  • Club culture
  • Off-field opportunities
  • Players / coaches they know at the new club
  • Salary cap room
  • Available picks / draft capital to make a deal happen
  • How high up the player is in the new club's priority list
  • And more...
You can't pick up every player available in trade week. We might only see 2-3 targets linked to us in public each trade period, but I am sure our list mgmt team has spoken to 5-10 times that many players throughout the year.

Once a player has nominated a club, the 'hey, we should get in his ear' is usually pointless. By that stage, a deal is probably already done in principle and if we were interested we would likely have already done our due diligence already.

For every player we 'miss', we probably weren't interested or we were in discussions but our overall offer (all the factors above) was trumped by someone else.

TL;DR - I reckon what we see in public is <10% of the wheeling and dealing the List Mgmt team would do behind closed doors
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Talking Heads GIF by Coolidge Corner Theatre
 
ferrisb said:
Zac Williams will slot back into the HBF, giving us run and skills out of the backline.

None of this mifdield, defensive fwd rubbish.

Thank you Nick.
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If Williams is definitely playing back, the i hope we look at Boyd as a forward option
 
DangerousD said:
I’d be surprised if we traded in to the top 10, the cost will be too high.

Trading up to get someone around 15 who Austin rated higher I can see being quite attainable
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I won’t be as that’s what we are targeting.
The club seem to believe that we can get a player we really want in Top 10 and then it’s a bit of a lottery.
Where our list is we just want quality and can add depth through DFA, mature rookies etc
We have a young group of Binns Hollands Cowan Akuei 2xIrishman O’Keefe Carroll Lemmey
and that’s a lot for a side in the Premiership window
 
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thylacine60 said:
Not to mention, particularly interstate moves, partner opportunities, kids schooling, good bakeries....
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Jabba73 is dumbfounded by the lack of AFL players nominating to play for the Echuca Football Club...
 
Top 10 DFAs according to Fox

www.foxsports.com.au

Young, old and ‘hungry’: Delisted free agents that deserve a second AFL chance

Young, old and ‘hungry’: Delisted free agents that deserve a second AFL chance
www.foxsports.com.au www.foxsports.com.au

Brodie Mclaughlin? 25yo key forward. Leading VFL goalkicker this year. Squeezed out of GC list with King, Lukosious, Cashboult and incoming Walter. Could be cheap backup for Charlie/Harry?!? Although we do have TDK and JSOS further down the KPF pecking order. Most importantly passes the Frank Marchesani rule as he kicked 5.0 against Carlton VFL in round 23.

Hayden Crozier - we have been linked already. Cheap HBF backup, but would be battling against Boyd/Cowan if everybody fit. Plus they are basically backup already, stuck behind Doc, Saad, Newman, McGovern & Williams.
 
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ferrisb said:
Jabba73 is dumbfounded by the lack of AFL players nominating to play for the Echuca Football Club...
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In the local paper today there is an article about Andrew Walkers son.

His younger brother goes alright too just quietly

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ferrisb said:
Top 10 DFAs according to Fox

www.foxsports.com.au

Young, old and ‘hungry’: Delisted free agents that deserve a second AFL chance

Young, old and ‘hungry’: Delisted free agents that deserve a second AFL chance
www.foxsports.com.au www.foxsports.com.au

Brodie Mclaughlin? 25yo key forward. Leading VFL goalkicker this year. Squeezed out of GC list with King, Lukosious, Cashboult and incoming Walter. Could be cheap backup for Charlie/Harry?!? Although we do have TDK and JSOS further down the KPF pecking order. Most importantly passes the Frank Marchesani rule as he kicked 5.0 against Carlton VFL in round 23.

Hayden Crozier - we have been linked already. Cheap HBF backup, but would be battling against Boyd/Cowan if everybody fit.
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Would 100% take McLaughlin
 

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Jatz said:
Hopefully they haven't abolished the father son rule by then...
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Surely that'll never happen.

I can see the bidding/matching process is adjusted, discount reduced or even removed, but not abolished altogether.

One of the great aspects of our game is the family lineage from parent to child (across both AFL & AFLW).
 
branedotorg said:
No chance it's 10% the lm team would have a pretty good eye on every player in the league and their contract - the agents aren't doing their job otherwise
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you missed the point there, brane.org - ferris was responding to my original post suggesting supporters on the whole have no idea as to the many moving parts involved in a trade..........the lms would need to be much more across it of course...........
 

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