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2023 AFL Trade Period and the AFL Draft

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Current draft picks: done
2024 draft picks: 1st, 2nd, 4th (Fre), 4th (GC), 4th (WBU)

List changes:
Out: 7 - Ed Curnow (Ret), Plowman (Ret), O'Brien (Del), Philp (Del), Honey (Del), Fisher (Trade), Dow (Trade)
In: 6 - Rob Monahan (IIR-CatB), Elijah Hollands (Trade), Orazio Fantasia (DFA), Ashton Moir (pick 29), Billy Wilson (pick 34), Matthew Carroll (Rookie pick 15)
Uncontracted: 0.
Retained SSP Players: 2 - Cincotta, O'Keeffe
Upgraded Rookie: 1 - Cottrell

List status:
Senior - 36 (36-38)
Rookie - 6 (0-6)
Cat-B Rookie - 2 (0-2)
Total - 44 (44)

Free spots - 0

Note - Matt Duffy (Ireland) not included - assumption is he was not listed after injuring knee.

List Lodgment Dates: OPEN
Tue 31-Oct: List Lodgment 1 COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: Father/Son, NGA, Northern Academy bidding nominations close COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: International Scholarship Listed players inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Thu 9-Nov: List Lodgment 2 COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Father/Son Primary List lodgment close COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Players not registered for 3 years inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: International Players inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Wed 22-Nov: List Lodgment 3 (post National draft) COMPLETE
Thu 23-Nov: FINAL List Lodgment (post PSD & Rookie drafts) PENDING

The Draft:
Mon 20-Nov
Time 7pm: National Draft Round One COMPLETE
Tue 21-Nov
5.45pm - 6.30pm: Selection Trade period COMPLETE
7pm: National Draft Round Two to completion COMPLETE
Following completion of draft: Rookie Promotion to Primary List COMPLETE
Following completion of draft: Delisted Free Agency Period (3) COMPLETE
Wed 22-Nov
Northern Academy and NGA Academy eligible Pre-Selected Rookie and Father-Son Pre-Selected Rookie player nominations
3pm: AFL Pre-season Draft COMPLETE
3.20pm: AFL Rookie Draft COMPLETE

Supplementary Selection Period (SSP): PENDING
Mon 27-Nov 9am: SSP starts (players must have been on AFL list previously OR nominated for 2023 draft)
Mon 19-Feb 5pm: SSP ends


Draft Nominations: CLOSED
Tue 10-Oct 9am: AFL Draft Nominations open COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: Out-of-contract listed AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft) COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov 3pm: AFL Draft Nominations close COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Delisted AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft) COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Non-retained rookie list player draft nomination close COMPLETE

Player and Selection Trades: CLOSED
Mon 9-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Commences – Players & Selections COMPLETE
Wed 18-Oct 7.30pm: AFL Trade Period Closes – Players & Selections COMPLETE
Mon 23-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Opens – Selections Only COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: AFL Trade Period Closes –Selections Only COMPLETE

Delisted Free Agency Periods: CLOSED
Wed 01-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences COMPLETE
Wed 08-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes COMPLETE
(see also period 3 under "The Draft" section below)

Restricted/Unrestricted Free Agency Trades: CLOSED
Fri 6-Oct 9am: AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period Commences COMPLETE
Fri 13-Oct 5pm: Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period COMPLETE
Mon 16-Oct 5pm: AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends COMPLETE

Draft Combines: CLOSED
Fri 6-Oct to Sun 8-Oct: National Draft Combine COMPLETE
Sun 8-Oct: Victorian State Combine COMPLETE
Sat 14-Oct: SA/NT State Combine COMPLETE
Sun 15-Oct: WA State Combine COMPLETE

6-Oct
1. James Jordon to Sydney as UFA. Melbourne receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (40)
2. Matt Flynn to WCE as UFA. GWS receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (41)
8-Oct
3. Joel Hamling to Sydney as UFA. Fremantle do not receive any compensation.
9-Oct
4. Tom Doedee to Brisbane as RFA. Adelaide receive end of 1st round compensation (pick 20)
5. Pick Swap: GCS trade picks 5, 48, 53 and future 3rd (GC) to WBU in return for picks 11, 18 and future 1st rd (WBU)
6. Pick Swap: Freo trade pick 25 and future 2nd rd to Port for future 1st (Port)
7. Todd Goldstein to Essendon as UFA. No compensation for North Melbourne.
10-Oct
8. Ben McKay to Essendon as RFA. North Melbourne receive 1st round pick as compensation (3)
9. James Harmes to Western Bulldogs. Melbourne receive a future 3rd rd pick (WBU)
11-Oct
10. Dylan Stephens to North Melbourne with pick 26. Sydney receive a future end of first round (pick 19) and this year's pick 45.
11. Pick Swap: Melbourne receives pick 11. Gold Coast get 14, 28, 36 in return.
12. Chris Burgess and pick 14 to Adelaide. Gold Coast get picks 24 and 27.
13. Pick Swap: North Melbourne receive pick 18. Gold Coast gets future end of first round (pick 20) comp pick.
14. Brodie Grundy to Sydney. Melbourne receive pick 47 and future second round pick (Syd)
15. Taylor Adams to Sydney. Collingwood receive pick 34.
16. Zac Fisher to North Melbourne with pick 17. CARLTON receive picks 22 and 26.
13-Oct
17. Jade Gresham to Essendon as RFA. St Kilda receive end of 1st round compensation (pick 21)
18. Toby Pink to North Melbourne - delisted free agent.
19. Tom Fullarton to Melbourne. Brisbane receive pick 47 in return.
14-Oct
20. Tyler Brockman to West Coast Eagles. Hawthorn receive picks 44 and 63 in return.
16-Oct
21. Bigoa Nyuon to North Melbourne. Richmond receive pick 65.
22. Lachie Schultz to Collingwood. Fremantle receive pick 34 and a future first round pick (Col) in return.
23. Liam Henry and future round four (Fre) pick to St Kilda. Fremantle receive a future 2nd (StK) and future 4th (StK).
17-Oct
24. Shane McAdam to Melbourne. Adelaide receive a future second round pick (Mel) in return.
25. Multi-trade
.... CARLTON: Give - Paddy Dow, future 3rd (Car), future 4th (Car). Receive - future 3rd (Ess), future 4th (Fre), future 4th (WBU)
.... Essendon: Give - 52, future 3rd (Ess). Receive - pick 35, future 4th (Car)
.... St Kilda: Give - Nick Coffield, picks 35, 56, future 4th (Fre). Receive - Paddy Dow, pick 40, future 3rd (Car)
.... Western Bulldogs: Give - pick 40, future 4th (WBU). Receive - Nick Coffield, picks 52, 56
18-Oct
26. Ivan Soldo to Port Adelaide with pick 50. Richmond receive picks 41, 49 a future 2nd round (Fre) and future 4th round (PA).
27. Jack Ginnivan pick 39, future 2nd (Col) and future 4th (Col) to Hawthorn. Collingwood receive pick 33, future 2nd (Haw), future 3rd (Haw)
28. Jordan Sweet to Port Adelaide. Western Bulldogs receive pick 50 in return.
29. Esava Ratugolea to Port Adelaide. Geelong receive picks 25, 76 and 94.
30. Elijah Hollands to CARLTON with pick 28 and future 4th (GC). Gold Coast receive pick 26 and future 3rd (Ess).
31. Jacob Koschitzke to Richmond. Hawthorn receive pick 49.
32. Jack Billings to Melbourne. St Kilda receive a future 3rd round pick (Mel).
33. Multi-trade
.... Brisbane: Give - Jack Gunston, picks 47, 61, future 2nd round (Bri). Receive - Ryan, 39, 54, future 4th (Haw).
.... Hawthorn: Give - Brandon Ryan, picks 39, 54, future 4th round (Haw). Receive - Gunston, 47, 61, future 2nd (Bri).
34. Mabior Chol to Hawthorn with pick 62. Gold Coast receive a future 2nd round pick (Bri).
35. Massimo D'Ambrosio to Hawthorn. Essendon receive pick 61, future 4th round (Col)
36. Multi-trade
.... Essendon: Give - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, pick 73, future 4th round (Ess), future 4th round (Car). Receive - Xavier Duursma
.... Port Adelaide: Give - Xavier Duursma. Receive - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, 73, future 4th round (Ess), future 4th round (Car)





Nominated:
Elliott Himmelberg to GWS (Trade) - staying at GWS

Mooted:
Buku Khamis - staying at Dogs
Dylan Shiel
Clayton Oliver - Ade/Gee - staying at Melbourne
Ollie Wines
Dan McKenzie - Suns?
Scott Lycett
Tom Clurey
James Borlase
Brynn Teakle
Josh Sinn
Orazio Fantasia - GWS?
Sam Hayes
Harrison Petty


Potential DFA and Retiree moves:
TBA

Missed Out on trades:
TBA




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Aphrodite said:



www.carltonfc.com.au

What they said: Austin wraps up trade period

Nick Austin speaks on Carlton's business at the 2023 Continental Tyres Trade Period.
www.carltonfc.com.au www.carltonfc.com.au
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From the article:

On the Club’s draft strategy, holding picks Nos.22 and 28:

“The way we look at the draft, the pointy end is so exciting while outside the top 10-12, it’s pretty even. To get another pick and have two close together, we felt like that was right for us. We’re confident we’ll get some good players there.”

How do I read this:
  • "the pointy end is exciting" - does mean we're looking at trying to trade up?
  • "To get another pick and have two close together, we felt like that was right for us. We’re confident we’ll get some good players there.” - does this mean we're happy with our picks and will keep them?

My read is that whilst Austin would be happy to trade up if possible, most likely we'll be using the picks as is. If so, I know it's pick best available, but at that range bring me an x-factor HF, and then a developing KPD...
 
marcmurphy3 said:
If we want Geelongs pick we are better off waiting till draft night. Their pick will likely be the last of the top group of players

If the guy left is one they like then the price of the pick will be out of reach. If it's not however, the price will be more reasonable.

A bit like us in 2019 when we got left with Flanders as the last guy in that top group. We didnt happen to rate him so moved on the pick for 17 and 22 which wasn't a ridiculous price.

Also, guarantees a guy we want is still there as there will be guys in that top group we don't want either.
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Also shows the hazards of trading down
 
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reubsblues said:
Wonder if we try and trade up
Maybe our future 1st involved
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One thing we do know is that Geelong/Mackie will be wanting a king's ransom for pick 8.

I'd imagine if we're even in the ballpark, they'd be asking for 22, 28 AND our future 1st - possibly with a future 2nd getting thrown back at us.

I also reckon there's other clubs like Norf that would be in a better position to trade up - especially if Sanders is available at that pick on draft night.
 
Revenant1965 said:
From the article:

On the Club’s draft strategy, holding picks Nos.22 and 28:

“The way we look at the draft, the pointy end is so exciting while outside the top 10-12, it’s pretty even. To get another pick and have two close together, we felt like that was right for us. We’re confident we’ll get some good players there.”

How do I read this:
  • "the pointy end is exciting" - does mean we're looking at trying to trade up?
  • "To get another pick and have two close together, we felt like that was right for us. We’re confident we’ll get some good players there.” - does this mean we're happy with our picks and will keep them?

My read is that whilst Austin would be happy to trade up if possible, most likely we'll be using the picks as is. If so, I know it's pick best available, but at that range bring me an x-factor HF, and then a developing KPD...
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Yep, that seems about right to me too. Keep our options open in case something presents, but otherwise fairly happy to just use our picks where they are now.

Live picks likely to be 27 and 30 - after factoring in bids and bid matching for Walter, Read, Rogers, Croft and McCabe.

Considering how even this draft seems to be after the first dozen or so picks, it's very hard to judge who we might have available to us there.

Koen Sanchez or Jack Delean seem like they'd be around the mark, and probably a good fit for our front half.
Zane Zakostelsky the only key defensive option in our range that I can see on most of the draft rankings.
Maybe Arie Schoenmaker slides?
Ashton Moir could be a bit of a Hail Mary if we get a safer option with our other pick. Boom or complete bust prospect.
If we want to do a bit of future-proofing of our midfield depth I also like the look of Cooper Simpson.
 
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I would trade up for an exciting player with obvious potential such as say Lance Collard.
Don’t think Austin will risk much, he’s more a methodical approach.
Curly Jr has a solid approach, so we should snare a couple of reasonably talented lads, let’s keep present that luck plays a big part.
Go Blues
 
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Soapy V said:
I’m open to anything Juddy but my feel is if we can get players in now the better. A pick 9 who is a gun will make a real difference in a year or two and we are in the window. Next year we will have Campo boys.

A top 10 pick now could be exactly what we need
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Percentage/gut feel of us doing trading up in your opinion?
 
skadoosh said:
Can anyone give some insight into why Geelong are the team who are supposedly most likely to trade their first pick?
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By their lofty standards, they were fairly inactive this trade period. There's a fair chance they're targeting some big names next year, so may be looking to trade out of this year and into next to gain some draft capital.

You would imagine that any negotiations from their end would have to include a future 1st rounder - which could actually work in our favour as we'd be one of the few clubs that are potentially using their 2024 1st rounder for points rather than a player - although the Cats would be also aware that it's not going to be a top end 1st round pick.

The thought of going to the draft this year having additional picks in the 20's, as well as an additional 1st round pick in 2024 to use as trade capital, may appeal to them though.
 
Bamboo Harvester said:
By their lofty standards, they were fairly inactive this trade period. There's a fair chance they're targeting some big names next year, so may be looking to trade out of this year and into next to gain some draft capital.

You would imagine that any negotiations from their end would have to include a future 1st rounder - which could actually work in our favour as we'd be one of the few clubs that are potentially using their 2024 1st rounder for points rather than a player - although the Cats would be also aware that it's not going to be a top end 1st round pick.

The thought of going to the draft this year having additional picks in the 20's, as well as an additional 1st round pick in 2024 to use as trade capital, may appeal to them though.
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Sean Darcy in a matched trade = Dockers could have 5 x 2024 1st rounders…our F1 may come into GFC’s thinking.
 
Arr0w said:
3 picks in the 20s (if there is a player we like), as well as adding an early additional 2nd rounder for the Campo boys

Personally, unless it ticks our boxes, think we trade our 2024 1st next year for multiple picks/points
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In regards to this.

Unless we do a Dogs trade next year and id say it would be harder for us to do it, as we hopefully have a higher pick, any trade we do next year for points, doesn’t get us an extra player, it just helps us pay for two coming in.

This doesn’t take in to account using the pick to bring in a player via trade and getting change.

Trading the F1 for a pick this year, or a second and a F2 actually gets us an extra player and helps us get points.

There is no risk in not having enough points, there will be a player or more who wants a trade out to help with points.
 

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