Injury Fremantle 2020 Injury Thread

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Simon Garlick, Peter Bell. These injury fiascos are a monumental fail. Again again again again.

I know it's early on your watch but you freaking will better be doing something about this behind the scenes and not just paying lip service to those who pay your freaking wages.

In fact we should be hearing more from Garlick. He is not fronting up! Where are you Simon?

We are DEMANDING better! NOW!!!

I am so infuriated and disillusioned tonight for some reason.
You are dead right. This is just beyond a ****ing joke at this stage. I feel so sorry for the players involved. Having THREE surgeries for something like this is beyond belief. Several of these players careers are being destroyed by utter incompetence of the medical staff at the club.
I’m glad Colin Young is raising this. I feel so sorry for the players involved. Something simple HAS to change. If anyone thinks this is the way to build a proper club culture you are having a laugh. Embarrassing that we have to find out via the West Australian that Hamlings season is indeed over. TBA my ass.

A total ****ing shambles.
 
You are dead right. This is just beyond a ******* joke at this stage. I feel so sorry for the players involved. Having THREE surgeries for something like this is beyond belief. Several of these players careers are being destroyed by utter incompetence of the medical staff at the club.
I’m glad Colin Young is raising this. I feel so sorry for the players involved. Something simple HAS to change. If anyone thinks this is the way to build a proper club culture you are having a laugh. Embarrassing that we have to find out via the West Australian that Hamlings season is indeed over. TBA my ass.

A total ******* shambles.
Hagdorn was first to break it about 10 days ago. I posted about it, but it was generally ignored.

I can see why the club wouldn't be ready to declare his career over as they will be seeking out any possibly solution.

The Hack and the West are simply running the story on the potential for his career to be over. It may not be definitive yet and understandably the club aren't going to stick a fork in him until they've exhausted all options.
 
Hagdorn was first to break it about 10 days ago. I posted about it, but it was generally ignored.

I can see why the club wouldn't be ready to declare his career over as they will be seeking out any possibly solution.

The Hack and the West are simply running the story on the potential for his career to be over. It may not be definitive yet and understandably the club aren't going to stick a fork in him until they've exhausted all options.
I’d expect Bell to be fronting up to the media on this issue tomorrow now at the very least. I don’t think Hamlings career is over yet either but it’s a long road back for the poor guy now. Didn’t a similar thing happen with Shane Kersten too actually? If heads dont roll over this fiasco I really will give up.
 
Any pooling of fluid in your body is prone to infection, even without any external exposure.
I really respect your opinions and I know you have been relatively defensive of the S&C team on here in general, but surely in the case of Hamlings rehabilitation you cannot defend the indefensible. It’s just awful in every aspect.
 
I really respect your opinions and I know you have been relatively defensive of the S&C team on here in general, but surely in the case of Hamlings rehabilitation you cannot defend the indefensible. It’s just awful in every aspect.
In hindsight it might have been better to not put him on a plane if it was going to be him sitting for a long period swelling his lower limbs, but infections in joints with existing inflammation don't exactly show themselves immediately. By the time he is reporting warmth and soreness, more than usual, it's established.

It's awful for him and the club.

Silvani had his career with us practically ended by an infection in the groin, which I don't know but I suspect was from cortisone injections into his problem areas there. Thats far more manageable.

Low blood flow areas like ankles, even with no skin ruptures, can get infected. You can get an infection in a corky.
 
In hindsight it might have been better to not put him on a plane if it was going to be him sitting for a long period swelling his lower limbs, but infections in joints with existing inflammation don't exactly show themselves immediately. By the time he is reporting warmth and soreness, more than usual, it's established.

It's awful for him and the club.

Silvani had his career with us practically ended by an infection in the groin, which I don't know but I suspect was from cortisone injections into his problem areas there. Thats far more manageable.

Low blood flow areas like ankles, even with no skin ruptures, can get infected. You can get an infection in a corky.
Would an infection like you describe be career threatening or could it be fixed by a third surgery, in your opinion?
 
Any pooling of fluid in your body is prone to infection, even without any external exposure.
This is a valid argument. I think it's called a seroma maybe? I have one on my chest that looks like Scaramangar's third nipple.

Everyone is at a loss at the lack of transparency from the club on every single injury, leaving us to reconcile and process rumour and innuendo.
This could be alleviated with some straight up honesty. Pretty simple.

Hill wasnt even on the injury list for a week
Hogan is stuck at 1-2 weeks
Sturt the same
Too many deflective TBA's
Tucker played injured?
Fyfe played injured?
Walters cramp????
Aish concussed overnight on a Friday
Infections post surgery
Why is switta taking so long?
And when the hell will Bennell be back????
 
I don’t think I believe the west.
it’s actually by Glenn McFarlane from the HS, but published also in the West (point about believing it admittedly still stands)
 

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Would an infection like you describe be career threatening or could it be fixed by a third surgery, in your opinion?
The infection probably stopped the bone healing, so cleaning it out and allowing it to heal again might be all it needs.

I've seen former SAS guys with their knee full of golden staph have it beaten and recover back to admittedly their senior self again.

I've also seen an infection in soft tissue literally eat a muscle before it's beaten, just a void on his body after that, a scar crater. Never to recover.

I would hope that it is just the bone hasn't healed due to the inflammation of an infection in the bone.
 
Inflammation is really good to protect an injury but I don't believe injuries heal until the inflammation settles. You want to cycle the fluids in and out as much as you can, compression ice packs and big warm wooly socks.

AFL players have a machine that they put on their injury while they are in bed and it will cycle on and off a ice compression all night. Terrible sleep but good for recovery
 
The few good parts of this season are completely overshadowed by the poor state of the club's playing list.

Doesn't matter how good your coach or game plan is if it's your B team vs other clubs A team.

Unlike the AFLW cancellation which was a typical Freo disaster, I don't think many would be very upset if this season was cancelled prior to the GF being played.
 
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Whats the bet Hamling is still listed as TBA next week? That would be farcical.

This whole situation is diabolical where the injury list is growing faster than our recovery list. No Team can be competitive under these circumstances.
 
Don't think the article says much people hadn't surmised already but I see it as a positive that more people, especially Young who seems to have influence, are bringing our issues to light.
 
they need to abolish the team from head to toe and start again like Brisbane did


Speaking on Tuesday morning ahead of the club's first final in a decade, coach Chris Fagan recalled his very first pre-season session in November 2016.

"There were 37 players there, 25 were in rehab and 12 were doing proper training and I thought "gee, I forgot to ask them that question, how healthy was the list?"

"From that day forward, it was a new medical group and we all started together, that's been addressed and over the course of the last two years we've had a magnificent run with injuries, which I hope continues for the rest of this year and into the future, of course."
Yep. Think I've posted that article about four times on here already. The hint is in the title "precious little luck". And yet we still have a bunch of officials, supporters etc rolling out the "we're just unlucky" excuse. Enough is enough... stop making ****ing excuses Freo and do something about it. They are going to lose not just casual supporters but it is getting to the point where a number of us purple hearted folk will have no choice but to walk away. I don't give a shit if it doesn't fix our injury issues quickly but pretending it isn't an issue and doing nothing has zero chance of solving it.
 

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