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Apparently needs more surgery to get his ankle right. Poor bugger
It is a shame. I remember the hype around us getting him. Big lump of a kid as an 18yo. I really hope he gets his body right and gets back.
If Toby Pink can make a comeback...
I think at the end of 2023 he had surgery to remove a pre-existing screw from his ankle.
Was it an issue that he'd had before he was drafted?
Tough bugger. Got a good player comp for him ?
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Plays a bid like Jack steel. I’m not saying he is going to be as good as Jack steel but that’s who he reminds me of
Yep that was my first thought too tbh. Plays the right way. Tough , tackle first and goal kicker. Lacks some speed but great prospect
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Do you think he fills out to a decent size? He’s decent size height wise
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He has a very nice step
What's happened to Cam McKenzie's younger brother. Wasn't he supposed to come through next year?
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Seriously about time. The lack of f/s coming out of Moorabbin last 10 years is a bit of a joke. We need phizer sponsorship, get things moving. Tell me they ain't been juicin those dogs and pies up.
Breeding programs!
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Rowan is eligible next year, he is in the NGA as far as i can see
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He's had a good season for the dragons but I think there are doubts over his upside at AFL level considering his lack of size and standout attributes
He looked pretty fast twitchy and industrious for sandy in QF. Only possibility i see is as a small defender which would be paton’s spot
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He is a good user but a bit slow from what Ive seen.
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Way too small. If he was made to defend as a half back he'd get massively exposed overhead. Paton at least is a bit taller so can intercept and spoil
At best would be a rebounding half back in the prime Caleb Daniel mould or current Dayne Zorko. Cannot be asked to defend, just pure all-out attack
Wouldn't suit us given Nas and Sinclair to an extent are already there
#15 Lennox Hofmann
Tall Defender | 190cm | 08/08/2006
Stats: 13 disposals, 5 marks, 4 rebound 50s
With Luke Trainor missing through injury (concussion), Hofmann essentially stepped into his role and did so with aplomb. He showcased a good ability to rebound and carry the ball confidently, but intercept marking was the pillar of his game. The St Kilda Next Generation Academy (NGA) prospect impacted as the third player up at packs and hardly looked like fumbling as he snapped up the aerial ball. His decisive reading of the play and composure suited the occasion.
Good write up on the Hoff
Tall Defender | 190cm | 08/08/2006
Stats: 13 disposals, 5 marks, 4 rebound 50s
With Luke Trainor missing through injury (concussion), Hofmann essentially stepped into his role and did so with aplomb. He showcased a good ability to rebound and carry the ball confidently, but intercept marking was the pillar of his game. The St Kilda Next Generation Academy (NGA) prospect impacted as the third player up at packs and hardly looked like fumbling as he snapped up the aerial ball. His decisive reading of the play and composure suited the occasion.
Good write up on the Hoff
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For my BigFooty debut, I would like to provide an update on St Kilda’s Next Generation Academy.
There is reason to be optimistic about the talent coming through – did you know the Saints Under-15 NGA side was the best performed at this year’s Victorian tournament?
Alongside Carlton as the only undefeated team, St Kilda demolished Essendon 96-0, beat North Melbourne comfortably 68-6 and got over the top of Melbourne 38-21. By comparison, the Blues defeated the Demons 31-18.
But let’s start with this season, as we have some exciting prospects.
I’ve tiered each player in our academy to give a guide to the likeliness of each being drafted.
2024
*** (played in Under 18 National Championships)
Adrian Cole, Sandringham
Lenny Hoffman, Sandringham & Brighton Grammar
** (U18 Coates League)
Sam Linder, Sandringham & Brighton Grammar
*(Hasn’t played any representative games this season)
Jacob Duryea, Frankston
Kento Hikima, Hampton
Jet DiSanto, Langwarrin
Anthony Colacino, St Kilda City
Roanin Jackson, East Brighton
Zac Bowen, Beaumaris
Baxter Kam, Prahran
Potential draftees
Adrian Cole - 197cm full back
Cole is an old school full back who just doesn’t get beaten often. He has played on all of the highly touted key forwards this season, aside from teammate Harry Armstong, and hasn’t had a bag kicked on him.
He is limited offensively - his intercepting has improved as the year has gone on but in general play he tries to avoid getting in the way/involved. Be prepared for an awkward kicking style, especially on his opposite.
It was his one on one work though that impressed the St Kilda coaching hierarchy after he participated in a couple of weeks of pre season training. He is a “reverse Phillipou”, born in the first week of January, so he might have finished his growing at 197cm.
Range: Pick 40-60.
Don’t be surprised to see Sydney bid on him. The Swans love to bid and Kinnear Beatson will be keen to get one back on new St Kilda list boss Simon Dalrymple after he left Sydney.
Lenny Hofmann - 190cm third defender
Hofmann is described by Brighton Grammar’s head of football as a “rebounding freak”, and by teammates as “super quick”.
The versatile defender produced his best performances for Brighton, where he was named in their best two players three times. Impressively, he was named best on ground against Caulfield - one of the top sides - and was prominent in the decider against Haileybury where he took the points, in favourable conditions, on Harry Armstrong who is looming as the first key forward selected in the draft.
Hofmann and arguably the best player in the draft, Levi Ashcroft, were the only two players to play in the title winning Sandringham, Brighton and Vic Metro sides this season. Such is the quality of the teams Hofmann represented, he played 24 matches in 2024…and lost just once.
Hofmann, who debuted for Brighton Grammar in Year 10, is the second oldest of four brothers with Quentin next draft eligible in 2026.
Range: Rookie draft
Hofmann is very highly rated internally at Brighton & Sandringham but was quiet at the National Championships. He has attributes that could turn him into a long term Josh Battle replacement.
Sam Linder - 178cm back pocket
Linder has had a consistent season with Sandringham, averaging 20 touches. Though this in inflated by regularly taking the kick ins. For a player his size, he intercepts well.
He’s been the man that the Dragons have sent to the opposition’s best small forward, such as top 15 fancy Isaac Kako (Linder was named in the best). He had five goals kicked on him by Waylon Davey-Motlop in round 12 of the Coates League and this was from Linder running off and being out of position on turnover, rather than being beaten one on one.
Linder, who is the most impressive speaker I’ve heard for a junior footballer, is deputy vice captain of Sandringham and captain of Brighton Grammar, where he saved his best performance of the season for the “grand final” against Haileybury. He was named best on ground with two late defensive efforts crucial in securing the one point victory.
Linder has been a star junior his whole career. In 2019, he won the Under-13 SMJFL Division 1 League Best and Fairest. That year, the Under-15 award was claimed by George Wardlaw and the Under-16 Marcus Windhager.
Range: Rookie draft
There hasn’t been a lot of talk about Linder but if the Saints miss out in the national draft on a small defender such as Harrison Oliver, I could see them taking Linder with a rookie pick. Finding a Jimmy Webster replacement is crucial.
2024 summary
Matching a bid for defenders Adrian Cole and Lenny Hofmann, if it comes, bolsters an area of the ground the Saints are weak in for depth.
With three list spots already needed for Max Hall, Elwood Peckett and the Sandringham rookie, things will get tight on whether there is room for Linder.
2025
*** (Vic Metro Under-17)
Kye Fincher, Sandringham & Brighton Grammar
** (U18 Coates League)
Jack Karthigesu, Frankston Dolphins
*(Hasn’t played any representative games)
James Mikhael, Murrumbeena & St Kevin’s
Nicky Robertson, Old Brighton
Rio Barry, Glen Iris
Kendyn Brown, South Melbourne Dist
Lucas Hornblower, Brighton Beach
Phoenix Smith, Frankston YCW
Mangok Lok ?
Potential draftees
Kye Fincher - 185cm half back
After playing for Vic Metro in the Under 16 National Championships in 2023, Fincher had limited opportunities to impress this year.
Like Lenny Hofmann and Sam Linder, he is part of the successful Sandringham and Brighton Grammar programs.
He is a bit timid defensively but moves well and wants the ball in his hands - he loves taking a kick out. I’ve seen him run from beyond the 50 metre mark just to take the kick in.
He averaged 13 touches in his three matches for the Dragons in 2024 off half back.
Fingers crossed we see Fincher pushed up the ground onto the wing or midfield in 2025 as he does have some potential.
Range: Rookie draft
Fincher recently missed out on being named in the Futures squad of the best 46 prospects.
2026
*** (U16 National Championships)
Kyle Harrison, Edithvale & Dandenong U16
** (U16 Talent League)
Quentin Hoffmann, Beaumaris & Sandringham U16
*(Hasn’t played any representative games)
Luke Mahimarajan, Brighton Bears (2024 B&F)
Aidan Tremsal, Seaford
Archer Francis, Carrum
Rowan Mackenzie, Beaumaris
Potential draftees
Kyle Harrison - 175cm back pocket
Harrison played back pocket in all three matches for Vic Metro at the recent Under 16 National Championships but wasn’t named in the best. With the game and tournament on the line, Harrison was the one taking the kick outs deep in the final quarter, as his side won by a point.
He has played representative footy for Dandenong earlier this year and for his league (Frankston & District) in 2022 & 2023.
Luke Mahimarajan - ?
Though not selected in any representative football in 2024, he won the SJMFL Under 16 Division 1 Best and Fairest. The recent form line of that award is solid, with Murphy Reid second in 2022, and Marcus Windhager claiming the medal from Finn Callaghan in 2019.
2026 summary
If the draft was today, Harrison would be in the rookie range.
There’s also a couple of brothers to keep an eye on in this crop - Rowan Mackenzie, the brother of the one that got away, Cam, and Quentin Hofmann, brother of 2024 NGA hopeful Lenny.
2027
*** (U15 All Star Indigenous v NGA game)
Ruben Nagar, Dingley (2024 B&F)
Findlay Johnston, Prahran
Ben Nish, Beaumaris
Erik Hennequin, Caulfield Bears
** (U15 Division 2 Metro Championships)
Billy Blazey, East Brighton
Eric Michel, Carrum Patterson Lakes
James Cassar, Langwarrin
*(Hasn’t played any representative games, other than St Kilda NGA side)
Tanish Singh, Caulfield Bears
2027 summary
We had four players make the Under-15 Indigenous v NGA match played in July. Eric Michel and James Cassar recently played in the VLine Cup - the regional U15 tournament - for the South East (Dandenong) Stingrays’ Division 2 side. Cassar was named in the best in both games. Ruben Nagar won the SMJFL Div 2 Best and Fairest this year.
2028
*** (U15 All Star Indigenous v NGA game or U14 Division 1 Metro Championships)
Nevon Eshwara, Edithvale Aspendale
Jai Gunasekera, Edithvale Aspendale
Zac Alter, Ajax
Aidan Rawack, East Brighton
Tyrone Nesbitt, Mount Eliza
** (U14 Division 2 Metro Championships)
Zach Mahimarajan, Murrumbeena
Max Brook, East Sandringham
Taj Davey, Frankston YCW
Robert Chong, East Brighton
*(Hasn’t played any representative games, other than St Kilda NGA side)
Ben Montgomery, Hampton (2024 B&F 3rd)
Aidan Teo, St Paul’s (2023 B&F)
Krishanth Devanesen, Mordialloc Braeside
Dom Monga, Bonbeach
Jimi Windust, ?
2028 summary
Alongside 2024 as our most exciting crop. Early days obviously, but Nevon Eshwara is the most promising player in our Academy alongside Adrian Cole and Lenny Hoffman.
Next week, I’ll have a look at our father son prospects - is the curse about to be lifted?
There is reason to be optimistic about the talent coming through – did you know the Saints Under-15 NGA side was the best performed at this year’s Victorian tournament?
Alongside Carlton as the only undefeated team, St Kilda demolished Essendon 96-0, beat North Melbourne comfortably 68-6 and got over the top of Melbourne 38-21. By comparison, the Blues defeated the Demons 31-18.
But let’s start with this season, as we have some exciting prospects.
I’ve tiered each player in our academy to give a guide to the likeliness of each being drafted.
2024
*** (played in Under 18 National Championships)
Adrian Cole, Sandringham
Lenny Hoffman, Sandringham & Brighton Grammar
** (U18 Coates League)
Sam Linder, Sandringham & Brighton Grammar
*(Hasn’t played any representative games this season)
Jacob Duryea, Frankston
Kento Hikima, Hampton
Jet DiSanto, Langwarrin
Anthony Colacino, St Kilda City
Roanin Jackson, East Brighton
Zac Bowen, Beaumaris
Baxter Kam, Prahran
Potential draftees
Adrian Cole - 197cm full back
Cole is an old school full back who just doesn’t get beaten often. He has played on all of the highly touted key forwards this season, aside from teammate Harry Armstong, and hasn’t had a bag kicked on him.
He is limited offensively - his intercepting has improved as the year has gone on but in general play he tries to avoid getting in the way/involved. Be prepared for an awkward kicking style, especially on his opposite.
It was his one on one work though that impressed the St Kilda coaching hierarchy after he participated in a couple of weeks of pre season training. He is a “reverse Phillipou”, born in the first week of January, so he might have finished his growing at 197cm.
Range: Pick 40-60.
Don’t be surprised to see Sydney bid on him. The Swans love to bid and Kinnear Beatson will be keen to get one back on new St Kilda list boss Simon Dalrymple after he left Sydney.
Lenny Hofmann - 190cm third defender
Hofmann is described by Brighton Grammar’s head of football as a “rebounding freak”, and by teammates as “super quick”.
The versatile defender produced his best performances for Brighton, where he was named in their best two players three times. Impressively, he was named best on ground against Caulfield - one of the top sides - and was prominent in the decider against Haileybury where he took the points, in favourable conditions, on Harry Armstrong who is looming as the first key forward selected in the draft.
Hofmann and arguably the best player in the draft, Levi Ashcroft, were the only two players to play in the title winning Sandringham, Brighton and Vic Metro sides this season. Such is the quality of the teams Hofmann represented, he played 24 matches in 2024…and lost just once.
Hofmann, who debuted for Brighton Grammar in Year 10, is the second oldest of four brothers with Quentin next draft eligible in 2026.
Range: Rookie draft
Hofmann is very highly rated internally at Brighton & Sandringham but was quiet at the National Championships. He has attributes that could turn him into a long term Josh Battle replacement.
Sam Linder - 178cm back pocket
Linder has had a consistent season with Sandringham, averaging 20 touches. Though this in inflated by regularly taking the kick ins. For a player his size, he intercepts well.
He’s been the man that the Dragons have sent to the opposition’s best small forward, such as top 15 fancy Isaac Kako (Linder was named in the best). He had five goals kicked on him by Waylon Davey-Motlop in round 12 of the Coates League and this was from Linder running off and being out of position on turnover, rather than being beaten one on one.
Linder, who is the most impressive speaker I’ve heard for a junior footballer, is deputy vice captain of Sandringham and captain of Brighton Grammar, where he saved his best performance of the season for the “grand final” against Haileybury. He was named best on ground with two late defensive efforts crucial in securing the one point victory.
Linder has been a star junior his whole career. In 2019, he won the Under-13 SMJFL Division 1 League Best and Fairest. That year, the Under-15 award was claimed by George Wardlaw and the Under-16 Marcus Windhager.
Range: Rookie draft
There hasn’t been a lot of talk about Linder but if the Saints miss out in the national draft on a small defender such as Harrison Oliver, I could see them taking Linder with a rookie pick. Finding a Jimmy Webster replacement is crucial.
2024 summary
Matching a bid for defenders Adrian Cole and Lenny Hofmann, if it comes, bolsters an area of the ground the Saints are weak in for depth.
With three list spots already needed for Max Hall, Elwood Peckett and the Sandringham rookie, things will get tight on whether there is room for Linder.
2025
*** (Vic Metro Under-17)
Kye Fincher, Sandringham & Brighton Grammar
** (U18 Coates League)
Jack Karthigesu, Frankston Dolphins
*(Hasn’t played any representative games)
James Mikhael, Murrumbeena & St Kevin’s
Nicky Robertson, Old Brighton
Rio Barry, Glen Iris
Kendyn Brown, South Melbourne Dist
Lucas Hornblower, Brighton Beach
Phoenix Smith, Frankston YCW
Mangok Lok ?
Potential draftees
Kye Fincher - 185cm half back
After playing for Vic Metro in the Under 16 National Championships in 2023, Fincher had limited opportunities to impress this year.
Like Lenny Hofmann and Sam Linder, he is part of the successful Sandringham and Brighton Grammar programs.
He is a bit timid defensively but moves well and wants the ball in his hands - he loves taking a kick out. I’ve seen him run from beyond the 50 metre mark just to take the kick in.
He averaged 13 touches in his three matches for the Dragons in 2024 off half back.
Fingers crossed we see Fincher pushed up the ground onto the wing or midfield in 2025 as he does have some potential.
Range: Rookie draft
Fincher recently missed out on being named in the Futures squad of the best 46 prospects.
2026
*** (U16 National Championships)
Kyle Harrison, Edithvale & Dandenong U16
** (U16 Talent League)
Quentin Hoffmann, Beaumaris & Sandringham U16
*(Hasn’t played any representative games)
Luke Mahimarajan, Brighton Bears (2024 B&F)
Aidan Tremsal, Seaford
Archer Francis, Carrum
Rowan Mackenzie, Beaumaris
Potential draftees
Kyle Harrison - 175cm back pocket
Harrison played back pocket in all three matches for Vic Metro at the recent Under 16 National Championships but wasn’t named in the best. With the game and tournament on the line, Harrison was the one taking the kick outs deep in the final quarter, as his side won by a point.
He has played representative footy for Dandenong earlier this year and for his league (Frankston & District) in 2022 & 2023.
Luke Mahimarajan - ?
Though not selected in any representative football in 2024, he won the SJMFL Under 16 Division 1 Best and Fairest. The recent form line of that award is solid, with Murphy Reid second in 2022, and Marcus Windhager claiming the medal from Finn Callaghan in 2019.
2026 summary
If the draft was today, Harrison would be in the rookie range.
There’s also a couple of brothers to keep an eye on in this crop - Rowan Mackenzie, the brother of the one that got away, Cam, and Quentin Hofmann, brother of 2024 NGA hopeful Lenny.
2027
*** (U15 All Star Indigenous v NGA game)
Ruben Nagar, Dingley (2024 B&F)
Findlay Johnston, Prahran
Ben Nish, Beaumaris
Erik Hennequin, Caulfield Bears
** (U15 Division 2 Metro Championships)
Billy Blazey, East Brighton
Eric Michel, Carrum Patterson Lakes
James Cassar, Langwarrin
*(Hasn’t played any representative games, other than St Kilda NGA side)
Tanish Singh, Caulfield Bears
2027 summary
We had four players make the Under-15 Indigenous v NGA match played in July. Eric Michel and James Cassar recently played in the VLine Cup - the regional U15 tournament - for the South East (Dandenong) Stingrays’ Division 2 side. Cassar was named in the best in both games. Ruben Nagar won the SMJFL Div 2 Best and Fairest this year.
2028
*** (U15 All Star Indigenous v NGA game or U14 Division 1 Metro Championships)
Nevon Eshwara, Edithvale Aspendale
Jai Gunasekera, Edithvale Aspendale
Zac Alter, Ajax
Aidan Rawack, East Brighton
Tyrone Nesbitt, Mount Eliza
** (U14 Division 2 Metro Championships)
Zach Mahimarajan, Murrumbeena
Max Brook, East Sandringham
Taj Davey, Frankston YCW
Robert Chong, East Brighton
*(Hasn’t played any representative games, other than St Kilda NGA side)
Ben Montgomery, Hampton (2024 B&F 3rd)
Aidan Teo, St Paul’s (2023 B&F)
Krishanth Devanesen, Mordialloc Braeside
Dom Monga, Bonbeach
Jimi Windust, ?
2028 summary
Alongside 2024 as our most exciting crop. Early days obviously, but Nevon Eshwara is the most promising player in our Academy alongside Adrian Cole and Lenny Hoffman.
Next week, I’ll have a look at our father son prospects - is the curse about to be lifted?
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Thank-you for all updating us all.
Cole and Hofmann both sound like guys worth taking a punt on.
I know we are one of the few in Victoria that actually puts the time into the players so good to see our investment start to pay off.
Great post.
Is there a Mackenzie next year? Brother of Cameron?
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