Rumour Future of the club (Bevo, board, assistant coaches, football department)

[doggy_dog]

Something has gone terribly wrong or there is something amiss at the Kennel with regards to attracting good assistants

We have a talented list and new facilities.
You would think someone would love to work with a forward line of a Naughton and JUH.

A midfield with Bont English Libba etc

A defensive unit of Dale Richards Jones etc

What is going on is a mystery

We’ve got Pratt, almost got Leppitsch, and might still get Hale and Egan and that’s just what we’ve heard. Can’t get up in arms just yet

 

[Dog 36]

We’ve got Pratt, almost got Leppitsch, and might still get Hale and Egan and that’s just what we’ve heard. Can’t get up in arms just yet

May be I am a little harsh
And we might get the names you say but how many have said they are not coming over ?

Seems weird to me how we are resourced in this area compared to other clubs

 

[Foxman98]

I hope dogs look at Siposs as a skills coach.

Nathan Chapman is the one to get,

Taught Siposs and is teaching the Tigers AFLW

 

[Ash1337]

Nathan Chapman is the one to get,

Taught Siposs and is teaching the Tigers AFLW

Would be good but Siposs is actually looking for a coaching career and likely quite gettable.

 

[Anja_Nees]

Good get by all accounts.

 

[Dog 36]

I hope dogs look at Siposs as a skills coach.

Would probably have some ideas reg set plays and structures given his American Football experience

 

[vellag]

Can’t see it posted here yet but my mail is Daniel Pratt - Eagles defensive coach from their premiership year and their former WAFL alignment coach, has signed with the Bulldogs as an assistant. Will be announced once other coaching appointments drop in coming weeks.

Kelvin31 - well done, Daniel Pratt confirmed coming to the dogs as assistant coach for 2024 season on SEN this evening

 

[Martyn_30_]

The side was 5th in the league for points against last year, being top 6 for points against is the most common stat amongst premiers. I think it's a bit of garbage group think that the team can't defend at all, the two clear issues from a backline perspective is the team doesn't take enough intercept marks and outside of JJ don't have an ability to generate scores from the back half.

 

[doggies ftw]

The side was 5th in the league for points against last year, being top 6 for points against is the most common stat amongst premiers. I think it's a bit of garbage group think that the team can't defend at all, the two clear issues from a backline perspective is the team doesn't take enough intercept marks and outside of JJ don't have an ability to generate scores from the back half.

Scores is only one thing though - we actually allow the 3rd least inside 50s in the comp this season which would keep overall scores against down, but once the balls in there it’s a disaster.

We’re 7th worst team, only better than the absolute shit campaigners, for scores against per inside 50 - meaning once the ball gets in there teams are scoring on us well above the average, and we’re giving them good looks. Also our def 1v1 win rate is also 7th worst.

Plus as you said we don’t even generate scores from defence.

Overall our defence is an absolute shit show, it’s definitely not just group think

 

[Ash1337]

Scores is only one thing though - we actually allow the 3rd least inside 50s in the comp this season which would keep overall scores against down, but once the balls in there it’s a disaster.

We’re 7th worst team, only better than the absolute s**t campaigners, for scores against per inside 50 - meaning once the ball gets in there teams are scoring on us well above the average, and we’re giving them good looks. Also our def 1v1 win rate is also 7th worst.

Plus as you said we don’t even generate scores from defence.

Overall our defence is an absolute s**t show, it’s definitely not just group think

It also shows that this season the dogs manage to fix the transition problems when they turn it over in their forward half. Any time dogs lose the midfield battle it's highly likely they'll be scored against.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

I feel like our defence has never been good under Smith though to be honest, it’s always just been acceptable or outright terrible. And it’s just time for a change after the last two years, it was that abhorrently bad a change had to be made

Weagles defence was brilliant at their best, and their flag was almost built on the back of it - so it’s a little different IMO

I thought our defense worked really well in 2015 and 2016. Especially 2016, which surely would have to be considered elite. Conceded the third least points per game. I imagine we would’ve conceded close to the least amount of inside 50s and definitely least one on ones but everyone sort of got across to provide cover.

Hasn’t worked as well post 2017 for whatever reason. Is it because our midfield and forward pressure isn’t as good as it used to be? Probably. Have teams worked out the weak areas of the defense and found out how to beat the “system”? Potentially. Is the main reason the aggressive defense worked was because Easton Wood was the elite interceptor in the league and we had the experience of Morris and Boyd to always be in brilliant postition? Also probably. To be fair to Smith, he hasn’t been in charge of that line the entire time either.

I think its the right call regardless. We’ve been the most underperforming side of the last two seasons and its time for a shakeup. Hopefully Pratt gets the opportunity to implement what he wants to. Might be a little harder without prime McGovern but I think he deserves a lot of credit for their success in that period.

 

[doggies ftw]

Ye

I thought our defense worked really well in 2015 and 2016. Especially 2016, which surely would have to be considered elite. Conceded the third least points per game. I imagine we would’ve conceded close to the least amount of inside 50s and definitely least one on ones but everyone sort of got across to provide cover.

Hasn’t worked as well post 2017 for whatever reason. Is it because our midfield and forward pressure isn’t as good as it used to be? Probably. Have teams worked out the weak areas of the defense and found out how to beat the “system”? Potentially. Is the main reason the aggressive defense worked was because Easton Wood was the elite interceptor in the league and we had the experience of Morris and Boyd to always be in brilliant postition? Also probably. To be fair to Smith, he hasn’t been in charge of that line the entire time either.

I think its the right call regardless. We’ve been the most underperforming side of the last two seasons and its time for a shakeup. Hopefully Pratt gets the opportunity to implement what he wants to. Might be a little harder without prime McGovern but I think he deserves a lot of credit for their success in that period.

Yeah very fair, especially 2016. 2015 I remember us being a bit susceptible to big scores but our scoring made up for it, but my memory is hasty.

Definitely 2016 was the best, probably largely due to Moz, Boyd, Murph & Wood - some real hardness, experience and just will to never lose a contest. Still felt like we were never a finished product until we got it right when it mattered, especially in regards to the talls. But the numbers speak for themselves.

It’s just always been a bit of a revolving door unfortunately. There’s no reason for us to not basically give the keys to Pratt and see what he can build there - it’s not working as it is so a full shake up could only be a positive to be honest.

 

[hutchy31]

I thought our defense worked really well in 2015 and 2016. Especially 2016, which surely would have to be considered elite. Conceded the third least points per game. I imagine we would’ve conceded close to the least amount of inside 50s and definitely least one on ones but everyone sort of got across to provide cover.

Hasn’t worked as well post 2017 for whatever reason. Is it because our midfield and forward pressure isn’t as good as it used to be? Probably. Have teams worked out the weak areas of the defense and found out how to beat the “system”? Potentially. Is the main reason the aggressive defense worked was because Easton Wood was the elite interceptor in the league and we had the experience of Morris and Boyd to always be in brilliant postition? Also probably. To be fair to Smith, he hasn’t been in charge of that line the entire time either.

I think its the right call regardless. We’ve been the most underperforming side of the last two seasons and its time for a shakeup. Hopefully Pratt gets the opportunity to implement what he wants to. Might be a little harder without prime McGovern but I think he deserves a lot of credit for their success in that period.

Our defense was awesome in 2021. Looking at the personnel it wasn’t amazing, although I’m sure many of us were calling for Keath to be named AA FB (how things change……)

Williams played well that year, Dale and Daniel great off HB and Duryea a great lockdown. They’ve all regressed massively imo. Difficult to see them get back to that level.

All that said, better coaching is the key here. Nobody has six stars in their backline, if Bevo and the club get their shit together the backline should be good enough and a midfield and forward line that is still pretty full of high draft picks hopefully delivers.

 

[jdz101]

We're actually going to go another season with spangher as forwards coach?

Jfc.

 

[Northernsoul74]

It would have to be next to impossible for the club not to have landed at least one coach so far.

Ameet to Kylie.

 

[BulldogMuscle]

I thought we had a raft of assistants lined up that were being kept top secret so President Mouseco could wait for supporter blood to boil to exactly the right temp before announcing them, but the Pratt appointment getting out has me questioning everything.

The club haven't actually announced anything about new coaches, this could very much still be the case even tho it has leaked.

 

[Northernsoul74]

We’ve got Pratt, almost got Leppitsch, and might still get Hale and Egan and that’s just what we’ve heard. Can’t get up in arms just yet

When does training start? How many other clubs are still looking for 2/3 coaches? It may end up ok but this clearly isn’t the plan or an ideal situation.

 

[House_of_Dahl]

If not Bevo, who will coach match days?

 

[adogsfan5]

If not Bevo, who will coach match days?

Hopefully Lade and Egan. Bevo to the bench.

 

[Dogs Rule]

We're actually going to go another season with spangher as forwards coach?

Jfc.

If he does just one thing next season, I just want him to say over and over again 'Fellas, at least one of you has to stay down. Get out of each others way.'

 

[Freshwater]

If we are struggling to get good quality assistants with our list, this has to be a worry? Assistant coaches earn an amazing amount of money. Footscray the town, isn’t the place where people don’t want to come to anymore. There has to be a reason. Poor recruiting from management, a perception (earned or unearned or a mixture of both) that the head coach is pig headed, or too much money going to him and not enough for the assistants in line with other assistants in the league? Where is Mick Warner to find the answers to these questions?
Matt Spanger shouldn’t be a line coach with his experience or lack of it. Where were our development coaches, they should have been ready to step up?
Late October and many positions not filled. Yet Rohan was sacked mid August.

 

[Hobdog]

Lack of info so far in no way guarantees Spang remains forwards coach. Stop torturing yourselves before anything is known for sure.


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[Planet Dogs]

Matt Egan would be a fantastic pick-up.

This deal better not fall over

 

[True Dog]

We're actually going to go another season with spangher as forwards coach?

Jfc.

I personally don’t have an issue with Spanger remaining Fwd coach for 2024. Whilst I thought our cohesion up front took some time to work it was always going to be the case when introducing new chess pieces in Lobbe/Darcy into the mix. Training all preseason with the thoughts of having a 4 Talls (rightfully or wrongly) didn’t help when we had to scrap the idea a few rounds in. That said had our conversion rate been up to league average we would have played finals (not sure we could blame Spanger for this). I took confidence with how the forward line functioned in the last game against the Cats (second half) and with another preseason to train and work with the group we’ll get a better insight into him as a coach. We’ve got bigger issues than worrying if Spanger remains a line coach or not IMO

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Kelvin31 - well done, Daniel Pratt confirmed coming to the dogs as assistant coach for 2024 season on SEN this evening

Also a shoutout to topdog who called it four days prior:

I’ve heard from reliable source we have signed Daniel Pratt from West coast, as new defensive coach. Was at hawthorn previously.