GC & Carlton Given Priority Access to State League Players

Should GC and Carlton be given priority access to state league players?

  • Yes

    Votes: 73 44.5%

  • No

    Votes: 91 55.5%
  • Total voters
    164

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Jonno94 said:
You're getting 2 FREE hits to get it right. These players can also be ONTRADED before the draft, they don't need to work out for Carlton.

So Carlton pickup 2 state league players. Lets say Geelong rates mature aged player 1 at pick 30 in the national draft and Hawthorn rates number 2 at pick 40. They both get traded and now Carlton has pick 30 and 40 in the national draft for free to use on 18 year olds.
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... which is an outcome I'd be perfectly happy with, provided those picks are roundabout the positions obtained.

Good draft to have seconds in.
 
LordLucifer said:
If you think they are a worthwhile bonus, how about we give them to you to use and we'll take your first two picks in the National Draft instead ??
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All year long Carlton fans use the excuse of playing so many teenagers for their poor performances, then they get given a free opportunity to pick up some mature talent or to on-trade them whilst still keeping their draft picks and they are still complaining. Giving Carlton more draft picks only helps you in 4-5 years. It won't do anything for Carlton in 2019 which is what the AFL is concerned about.
 

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LordLucifer said:
I read a number of comments on the Crows board about Mitch Grigg and if they are anything to go by (and most of them would have seen way more of him this year in the SANFL than the average footy follower), then he is destined to stay in the SANFL.
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A lot of people at the Swans thought Tom Mitchell was the 3rd or 4th best mid fielder at the club, many in WA passed on Tim Kelly several times.The SANFL must be a very weak competition because those numbers by Grigg in the past two years are pretty damn good. Carlton have the best midfielder in the comp IMO, what he needs is some solid back up and that means a player such as Grigg should be looked at again? Why couldn't he be the next Tim Kelly?
 
blitzer said:
Giving Carlton more draft picks only helps you in 4-5 years. It won't do anything for Carlton in 2019 which is what the AFL is concerned about.
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Neither will State League players !!


JackFlash said:
A lot of people at the Swans thought Tom Mitchell was the 3rd or 4th best mid fielder at the club, many in WA passed on Tim Kelly several times.The SANFL must be a very weak competition because those numbers by Grigg in the past two years are pretty damn good. Carlton have the best midfielder in the comp IMO, what he needs is some solid back up and that means a player such as Grigg should be looked at again? Why couldn't he be the next Tim Kelly?
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He needs a better attitude and a significant weight loss campaign.
 
gbatman said:
I fully acknowledge that the club has created this mess. Bottom clubs are bottom clubs are mostly their from their own doing, I don't see how that's relevant.

The AFL are the ones who have overseen a system that has degraded gradually over the last decade to remove resources from rebuilding clubs and significant resources at that. Not only this but it has also given extra resources to top clubs at the same time.

Why are you suggesting that a reason a club is down the bottom has something to do with the fact that they should not be properly resourced and given the opportunity to climb back up in an acceptable time frame?

To me that makes no sense at all.
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Please can you show me your posts complaining about similar inequities when Port bottomed out, but lost all their picks to GWS and GCS?

Because your argument will be a lot stronger if you have said similar in previous years.
 

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master bate said:
Melbourne were overcompensated with Frawley but we were losing a former All Aus tall in his prime who would go on to be one of the best players in a grand final win. And we used the system available.

Carlton are effectively getting 2 extra second round picks when they could just trade 2nd rounders for mature talent if they weren't so keen to hoard talent. Why not just let them trade more future picks to get the talent their list needs? Oh well, they'll get McGovern.

Gold Coast are getting more draft picks to burn. They traded a bunch of 2nd round picks to the Eagles last year in one of the more dreadful trades of the recent era. Good luck to them.
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That was our parting gift from Scott Clayton... We don't like to talk about that one too much.

Timmy from Thomastown said:
If you cant agree that the Dogs and Tigers winning the premiership isnt a sign that the system isnt broken then theres nothing I can do for you. The Saints have also been desperately unlucky twice and the Dockers have played in their first Grand Final recently.

Carlton have been a very bottom club for only four years and have played finals in the 7-10 year time zone mentioned. Paying the price for mistakes made under the Malthouse era and now rebuilding.

Gold Coast are a different story and as I said all they need to do is look 20 kms north to see how some decent culture and a good coach can lead to the first level of success, which is player development leading to player retention. Their problems are far greater than what a priority pick can provide.
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Yeah and Brisbane are a year or two further ahead in that cycle than we are, No GC supporter is under any allusion but we are working on it - It doesn't help the fact that any talent we do develop gets vultured almost immediately by the circling Victorian clubs that look at us like we're an extra reserves team. But under Dew we'll get there.

I don't necessarily agree with being able to on-trade these players, I'd like to have them around to protect the younger boys and provide a bit of grunt around the ground and in the sheds but that's the prerogative of the club to work with what we get.
 
Demonic Ascent said:
We got compensation for a player lost through FA. Just like every other side who lost a player to FA. Keep raging against the machine though mate :thumbsu:
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You also got given Paul Roos by the AFL.

If you weren't 'Melbourne' you'd have been relocated (but you are and should never be).
 
chiwigi said:
You also got given Paul Roos by the AFL.

If you weren't 'Melbourne' you'd have been relocated (but you are and should never be).
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Riiight, so Roos had no say as to whether he wanted to take on a coaching role? How exactly did the AFL "give" him to us? You lot are making yourselves look real silly with these conspiracies.
 
davis_756 said:
That's all you can take from that, really?

You got rewarded for cheating, pure and simple
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Bahahahahahahahahahahaha.

How many #1 picks did Carlton get after being kicked out of the draft for Salary Cap cheating?
 
Demonic Ascent said:
Riiight, so Roos had no say as to whether he wanted to take on a coaching role? How exactly did the AFL "give" him to us? You lot are making yourselves look real silly with these conspiracies.
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OK mate, there was no financial assistance proovided to hire Roos.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...e/news-story/d1a6ed54de7f3cab5b8f619c9055879d

They didn't help out in the same way they didn't punish you for tanking.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sp...g/news-story/b64f96ba348c3bb592cd3b80ad386293


You have also had 3 start of first round draft picks (a joint record).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priority_draft_pick


But sure, what have the AFL ever done for you.
 
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