List Mgmt. Geelong at the 2012 AFL National Draft (selections Nos. 16, 77 and 92)

[Pivo]

If this is to be believed...

But the Herald Sun can reveal GWS will instead nab devastating outside midfield stars Lachie Whitfield and Jono O'Rourke with its first two picks before calling the name of key defender Lachie Plowman at No.3.

The draft bombshell means Wines will likely join the Dogs, with his contested-ball winning ability and stoppage brilliance tailor made to coach Brendan McCartney's game plan.

Then suddenly Stringer might be back on the table, especially if GWS prefer Menzel. The Bullies seemed an obvious choice for Stringer but if Wines goes there I'd be surpirised if they also took Stringer, especially after landing Koby Stevens.

Interesting...as they say.

 

[JunkyardDog33]

Stringer won't last past GWS' pick 12. Likely top 7 is Whitfield, O'Rourke, Plowman, Toumpas, Wines, Stringer, Menzel. Cal Twomey tweeted last night that there's a whisper GWS to pass on Brodie Grundy and slip to us. I think it is unlikely though and we'll most likely get Lonergan or Garner.

 

[magicmarker]

Stringer won't last past GWS' pick 12. Likely top 7 is Whitfield, O'Rourke, Plowman, Toumpas, Wines, Stringer, Menzel. Cal Twomey tweeted last night that there's a whisper GWS to pass on Brodie Grundy and slip to us. I think it is unlikely though and we'll most likely get Lonergan or Garner.

If Grundy slid to us, surely we'd have no choice but to take him. I just can't see it happening though, there are a number of teams above us that need an a-grade ruck, as much, or even more than what we do.

It seems there is a lot of left-field rumours cropping up though, either it is a smokescreen, trying to sell newspapers or there may be a few surprises in store this year.

 

[year of the cat]

I'll run naked around KP 5 times during the first night match if Grundy slips to us. Surely he will be taken by GWS at some stage? Even the Kangaroos would be mad to pass him up if he fell to them. The guy is a gun. Won't happen.

 

[Jmac2225]

I'll run naked around KP 5 times during the first night match if Grundy slips to us. Surely he will be taken by GWS at some stage? Even the Kangaroos would be mad to pass him up if he fell to them. The guy is a gun. Won't happen.

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[Belisarius]

Stringer won't last past GWS' pick 12. Likely top 7 is Whitfield, O'Rourke, Plowman, Toumpas, Wines, Stringer, Menzel. Cal Twomey tweeted last night that there's a whisper GWS to pass on Brodie Grundy and slip to us. I think it is unlikely though and we'll most likely get Lonergan or Garner.

Even though the rumour mill seems to have Stringer, my preferred option, sliding a slight possibility of getting to pick 16 - I just cannot see it happening.

And I agree with JYD - the most likely outcome from all the reports available re team selections it will be Lonergan or Garner. I checked out Lonergan and he seems to be a good fit (replacement for Stringer) and will be there at pick 16.

 

[year of the cat]

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I've never been more confident about anything. ;-)

 

[strauchnyy]

Even though the rumour mill seems to have Stringer, my preferred option, sliding a slight possibility of getting to pick 16 - I just cannot see it happening.

And I agree with JYD - the most likely outcome from all the reports available re team selections it will be Lonergan or Garner. I checked out Lonergan and he seems to be a good fit (replacement for Stringer) and will be there at pick 16.

I agree re Stringer, but not in relation to Lonergan.

IMO I would prefer Garner, Kennedy, Simpson, Obrien, Jaksch etc over Lonergan.

Lonergan to me, is your average man-child (10kg heavier than team mates) decent-ordinary mid that doesn't really have any standout ability/tools (besides his strength which wont mean anything in the AFL against the big boys) to make it as a gun player. I think we are lacking some young-genuine-A-grader players and at pick 16 I would be picking Garner over lonergan due to Garner's additional talents (marking, x-factor, agility and contested possession ability).

I think Lonergan is a tad overrated on these boards and it would be a 'reach' to grab him at 16 with the other options available.

Still hoping Stringer falls to our pick but if he doesn't, I would be satisfied with Garner or Simpson.

 

[DMR12]

I agree re Stringer, but not in relation to Lonergan.

IMO I would prefer Garner, Kennedy, Simpson, Obrien, Jaksch etc over Lonergan.

Lonergan to me, is your average man-child (10kg heavier than team mates) decent-ordinary mid that doesn't really have any standout ability/tools (besides his strength which wont mean anything in the AFL against the big boys) to make it as a gun player. I think we are lacking some young-genuine-A-grader players and at pick 16 I would be picking Garner over lonergan due to Garner's additional talents (marking, x-factor, agility and contested possession ability).

I think Lonergan is a tad overrated on these boards and it would be a 'reach' to grab him at 16 with the other options available.

Still hoping Stringer falls to our pick but if he doesn't, I would be satisfied with Garner or Simpson.

Agree with this. Don't think Lonergan has the upside that someone like Garner does. Plus I would be backing Caddy, GHS, Schroder to come on, and all are similar players to Lonergan.

 

[year of the cat]

I see Garner as being not dissimilar to Menzel at the moment. If the kid can be made into a Bartel-like mid then all the better. He certainly appears to have the body shape to be able to put on size quite quickly. Get him and we are developing quite a group of young mids that can take an overhead mark and kick a goal.

 

[Belisarius]

OK - if Garner is going to be a decent sized mid and has more upside than Lonergan - the I am fine to go with him over Lonergan. Just want someone with a bit of grunt and size in the middle. We have lost Ling and we are about to lose Corey - two big bodied mids. We just need a replacement or two for these guys.

We have a quite a few potential mids but we do need perhaps another A grader. Caddy is one who might be, Bundy and Duncan as well. Selwood and kelly are A graders and SJ could be an A grader mid. I reckon you need at least 4 A grader mids - perhaps 5. Add a decent ruckman and there is a formula for success.

So I was hoping to get a potential grader mid from this ND. I reckon Stringer or Vlatsuin might fit the bill - but are unlikely to be there for us to pick. So if you more knowledgeable guys reckon Garner is a more likely fit for this role than Lonergan - no problem.

Go Garner (go Stringer).

 

[meto]

Stringer won't last past GWS' pick 12. Likely top 7 is Whitfield, O'Rourke, Plowman, Toumpas, Wines, Stringer, Menzel. Cal Twomey tweeted last night that there's a whisper GWS to pass on Brodie Grundy and slip to us. I think it is unlikely though and we'll most likely get Lonergan or Garner.

Lonergan or Garner, hope not!
Lonergan just a big heavy kid those major talent is his weight, and a bit to short, definately no.

And just not over wrapped in Garner, seems to laconic for my liking, just reckon we'd be getting the left overs if 9-10 mids go before we even get our shot.
Great opportunity to snare an 'A' grade med/tall, chances are we'd land a top 3 of the draft in that category.
That way we use our pick 16 like an inside 10 pick.

 

[Pivo]

I don't mind the sound of Lonergan but feel we probably already have his "type" on the list already in the form of Jordan Schroder. Caddy could be added in there as well.

Garner probably has more tricks and potential upside than Lonergan. Think of Garner as 'Menzel-lite' in this draft.

If things pan out, Garner's trajectory might be similar to Nat Fyfe (who Garner reminds me, and numerous others, of).

16 will probably look high but down the track it may very well look like a stroke of genius.

This, of course, is under the proviso that Stringer and Vlastuin are already gone.

 

[meto]

There's a kid called Tim Membrey, 188-189/88kg, 54goals in the Tac comp this year, just thinking if we want a kid with Stringers power and size, look no further.
He's got an AFL body, he's extremely strong in one on one marking contests, could end up as a Johnson type that could go into the middle and also add a sharp edge to the forward structure.
His video is brilliant.

 

[year of the cat]

There's a kid called Tim Membrey, 188-189/88kg, 54goals in the Tac comp this year, just thinking if we want a kid with Stringers power and size, look no further.
He's got an AFL body, he's extremely strong in one on one marking contests, could end up as a Johnson type that could go into the middle and also add a sharp edge to the forward structure.
His video is brilliant.

Kersten is all of that.

 

[Grizzly_82]

I'll run naked around KP 5 times during the first night match if Grundy slips to us. Surely he will be taken by GWS at some stage? Even the Kangaroos would be mad to pass him up if he fell to them. The guy is a gun. Won't happen.

Wouldn't last a lap before security arrives

 

[Grizzly_82]

Just hope wells doesn't pick Garlett seems to be very lazy and has some off field issues. Plus is aw a pic of him on the WCE board having a smoke and a drink didn't seem right to me doing that before a draft.

 

[year of the cat]

the only thing with Kersten is he looks to have a poor tank.
From the games I saw him play, he won't be AFL ready for another year.
He may get the kilometers he desperately needs this pre season though so fingers crossed he is pushing himself at the minute.

I doubt though that we would go for 2 such similar players regardless. Effectively they are both undersized key forwards. I'm not sure either will play significant midfield roles - to me they will both be a third tall that will be a nightmare for opposing teams to match up on.

 

[Selective Retention]

There's only one spot in the side for a player like that.

If he is fit and regains his form from before being injured, that's going to be Menzel for us anyway.

Then there's Brown and Kersten.

And really with no Menzel last year, Bartel played that role a fair bit ahead of both of them anyhow.

 

[magicmarker]

There's a kid called Tim Membrey, 188-189/88kg, 54goals in the Tac comp this year, just thinking if we want a kid with Stringers power and size, look no further.
He's got an AFL body, he's extremely strong in one on one marking contests, could end up as a Johnson type that could go into the middle and also add a sharp edge to the forward structure.
His video is brilliant.

Good call... There's not a lot of love for him, but boy does he look impressive, and from all accounts he is a real leader. He's my tip for the player where in two years everyone asks how he fell so far - could be the steal of the draft.

 

[Senatorguesty]

I can't see us going after garlett, character first/no dickhead policy means we don't even look at him.
For me it's stringer or bust!
I really REALLY like what I see of this guy, him and caddy could be a grade 10 year players got us, provided we get him.

 

[meto]

Kersten is all of that.

Re Membrey.

Nothing like Kersten, more like Dan Menzel on ryoids, massively strong through the core, the way he out bodied big defenders was amazing.
At 188-89 he'd be one hell of a weapon in the middle, every bit as potent as Stringer and he'd have to be a better mark, some of them were absolute wow factor.
No wonder he's shortened in the eyes of many, only thing is, the tatt has to go!

Cameron Ling, he was a 189cm fullforward wasn't he! How things can change.

 

[Belisarius]

Is Membey big enough to play 3 rd tall down back ?

Or if he is not that big - how about a part time mid like SJ has become ?

If he can play a bit in the midfield - he maybe a chance.

 

[year of the cat]

For what it's worth Brett Anderson on SEN has suggested that Stringer will now be taken by the Bulldogs, Menzel by GWS at 12 and that we will are favoured to take Garner.

 

[you pick one]

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What a difference an r makes.