Banter Geelong V Richmond - GO!

[Wosh]

In the interests of keeping your back and forth shite fights out of match threads so normal people can talk.

Keep it clean and above the shorts
Off topic rubbish clogging up match threads will be moved here, knock yourselves out.

 

[UncleImpairedRetina]

how universally respected and admired we are

 

[PhatBoy]

What are you still doing here lol!

The fact is that from '17 to '20 the Tigers didn't have a problem moving the ball quickly, another fact is that the stand rule was brought in to prompt quicker ball movement.

Another fact is that Hocking said a player manning the mark (being able to move laterally) puts pressure on a Geelong kicker, this pressure Hocking said created a "delay" when Hocking would've preferred Geelong to move the ball quicker in that 2020 GF. Why couldn't Geelong move the ball quicker in that 2020 GF? Because of pressure, that's the answer.

Everyone agrees that Richmond's system was pressure based.

So it stands to reason, that the stand rule was like a pressure release valve, and we all know that the role of the pressure release valve is to control or limit the pressure that can build up in a game of AFL football (particularly in a final between Richmond and Geelong), like it built up in that GF in 2020. You remember well Chris Scott saying Richmond were shitting themselves, but when Richmond ramped up the pressure after HT, well then Geelong shit themselves. So Hocking had finally had enough of waiting for Chris Scott to figure out how to beat Richmond (which Scott claimed he did in 2021 ) so he invented the stand rule which acted as a pressure release valve for the handbaggers.

Now that's no theory, that's exactly how it happened.

Now stop talking shit and I wont have to make another account after you run to the mods and get me banned again for no reason, you f****** jibroni

wtf does this even mean?

We were the second-winningest team between 2017-2020. And in two finals against Richmond we dominated them for a half. If you think a rule was why you beat us, you’re selling your own team and players short.

Our win percentage is almost identical in the four seasons since the stand rule as it was before it. 65 to 64.

Wow, didn’t we just improve out of sight with that big change

I’ve never reported you once mate. I don’t need to report people for being dumb. You can ask them if you want.

Your analysis is simply stunning. I’m surprised the greatest footballing minds of their generation haven’t given you a paid role to work out a way past the umpires saying the word ‘stand.’ No one else in yellow and black seems to have managed it I guess so they may as well try.

 

[PhatBoy]

Geelong fans are a precious bunch . Still living off the success of the 2007 era. You don’t see Eagles fans harping on about 06. It’s weird but speaks to their insecurities

I don’t see anyone living off anything. Compared to a supporter base living off the ‘success’ of a good draft hand and finishing last however I would see it as being quite normal.

 

[PhatBoy]

I think this thread seems to have tipped PhatBoy over the edge of the precipice he was threatening to fall into for so long Ufc. He is now so obsessed with Richmond posters he can't get us out of his head. Reads every post we make. Even on our own board. Responds to our cleverly nuaced posts as if they are to be taken literally. Bloke seems a mess.

The thing he seems to hate more than anything is how universally respected and admired we are. I mean just gtf over it PhatHead. Everyone can't be as popular as us.

Of course I read it. It’s the most entertaining thread on the entire board. Knowing that you guys actually believe the stuff you say is perhaps the most hilarious thing to take away from the experience of being a user of this forum. Reading someone brag about being rabid about wanting to kill someone at a football match, reading the gnashing of teeth about alleged corruption within football, reading grown adults wish harm on people, and most of all reading the thoughts of someone old enough to be my father actually believe in the conspiracy theories he espouses: that’s entertainment as far as I’m concerned.

Back to the pond old man.

 

[STPer18]

Geelong fans are a precious bunch . Still living off the success of the 2007 era. You don’t see Eagles fans harping on about 06. It’s weird but speaks to their insecurities

We prefer the term 'Joel Selwood era' which of course includes 2022 too and the heroics of finals behemoth G. Rohan tearing the QF to shreds.

 

[Unflinching]

wtf does this even mean?

Ok we'll do it this way, was the stand rule brought in to prompt quicker ball movement?

 

[PhatBoy]

Ok we'll do it this way, was the stand rule brought in to prompt quicker ball movement?

Probably. Either way you seem to forget that there was more than one good team in the afl at the time. One of them managed to deal with it. Actually several have. Port Adelaide have kept making the top four. So have Sydney. So have Brisbane. Another - or more specifically their group of fans - has done nothing but moan about it continuously ever since as though communism was introduced by the government.

 

[Unflinching]

Probably.

No probably about it, it was brought in to prompt quicker ball movement, it's right there on the AFL website.

Now we have to ask, did Richmond's manning the mark (being able to move laterally) put pressure on Geelong in that '17 QF, '19 PF & '20 GF to the point where they couldn't move the ball quick enough for Hocking's liking?

 

[PhatBoy]

No probably about it, it was brought in to prompt quicker ball movement, it's right there on the AFL website.

Now we have to ask, did Richmond's manning the mark (being able to move laterally) put pressure on Geelong in that '17 QF, '19 PF & '20 GF to the point where they couldn't move the ball quick enough for Hocking's liking?

Based on the 50000000 threads and usernames you’ve spent telling us that it was Dustin Martin’s attacking brilliance that won those two games, I’d say it was of secondary importance, and one would wonder why such a gameplan that they had relied on for four consecutive seasons slipped their minds for half a game at a time in preliminary and grand finals in back to back seasons.

 

[Unflinching]

Based on the 50000000 threads and usernames you’ve spent telling us that it was Dustin Martin’s attacking brilliance that won those two games

I never said that about Dustin, you're thinking of Falcon and Cleansweep17, who were obviously the same person.

Even that guy, what has he ever done to deserve to be banned that you haven't done?

one would wonder why such a gameplan that they had relied on for four consecutive seasons slipped their minds for half a game at a time in preliminary and grand finals in back to back seasons.

You can't expect to keep up a relentless pressure for 4 quaters, it would be stupid to expect that. The way I look at it is that Geelong could never get bigger enough leads when Richmond were "shi*ting themselves" like Chris Scott said in 2020. But when we raised the fight, it was Geelong that ended up shi*ting themselves.

And just so you don't have to wonder about anything, I remember Goran Ivanisevic once saying about Pete Sampras that "even when he's not looking good, he's looking good," so what you saw as the gameplan slipping our minds for half a game was in fact Richmond looking good.

 

[PhatBoy]

I never said that about Dustin, you're thinking of Falcon and Cleansweep17, who were obviously the same person.

Even that guy, what has he ever done to deserve to be banned that you haven't done?

You can't expect to keep up a relentless pressure for 4 quaters, it would be stupid to expect that. The way I look at it is that Geelong could never get bigger enough leads when Richmond were "shi*ting themselves" like Chris Scott said in 2020. But when we raised the fight, it was Geelong that ended up shi*ting themselves.

And just so you don't have to wonder about anything, I remember Goran Ivanisevic once saying about Pete Sampras that "even when he's not looking good, he's looking good," so what you saw as the gameplan slipping our minds for half a game was in fact Richmond looking good.

Ok mate

Yeah I’ve wandered into every thread not about Geelong and Richmond and made it about Geelong and Richmond
If my behaviour was of that much of a concern, I’d have needed reprimanding and numerous aliases. Yet here I am.
I’d imagine the fact that I can construct an argument without having to routinely fall back on ‘you’re just salty because…..’ or ‘CFL’ probably has something to do with why some people don’t get chastised and others do.

And I haven’t reported him - or whoever the hell you are - once. I’d wager a shit tonne of other people have though.

 

[Footy Smarts]

Good to see we've found where the Tiger army went. There's more Tiger fans in here than at some of their games.