Geelong vs Brisbane - Who would win?

[year of the cat]

FB- Hunt, Harley, Mackie
FF- Caracella, Lynch, Bradshaw

HB- Wojcinski, Scarlett, Rooke
HF- Akermanis, Brown, Notting

C- Milburn, Ablett, Selwood
M- Ottens, Bartell, Ling
C- McCrae, Black, Power
M- Keating, Voss, Lappin

HF- Corey, Mooney, Johnson
HB- Johnson, Leppitsch, Pike

FF- Chapman, Lonergan, Stokes
FB- Scott, Michael, Scott

int- Blake, Kelly, Enright, Varcoe
int- Charman, White, McRae, Copeland

I might've left some players out, and I may've got a few positions wrong, but you get the hint, who would win?

Get rid of Byrnes and replace him with Enright - no wonder everyone is picking Brisbane....

All I can say is that in 2004 we pushed Brisbane all the way in a preliminary final when we were nothing like the team we are now. Our style of football is completely different and have we have matured as a playing group. Ottens has been added and would give Keating a bath. I reckon Shaun Hart is right, we would win pretty comfortably.

 

[lions_den]

Get rid of Byrnes and replace him with Enright - no wonder everyone is picking Brisbane....

All I can say is that in 2004 we pushed Brisbane all the way in a preliminary final when we were nothing like the team we are now. Our style of football is completely different and have we have matured as a playing group. Ottens has been added and would give Keating a bath. I reckon Shaun Hart is right, we would win pretty comfortably.

In 2004 we were hit very hard by injuries and took many injured players into that final series. Plenty of needles that year. I think Brisbane of 01-02 would beat Geelong of 07-08 but Brisbane of 03-04 wouldn't.

 

[Thommo 42]

Brisbane easily, looking at those team lists I can't find many winners for Geelong.

 

[Rioli2Buddy2010]

No one here knows much about football! Geelong would win by 50+. The Brisbane side was at its peak more than five years ago! Have any of you noticed how the game has evolved since than? For a start how would that Brisbane side cope with 2008 umpires? That factor alone would be enough to give Geelong a win.

 

[swiftdog]

Brisbane. Best side I have ever seen.

 

[dylan123]

i would say brisbane would win because i think there midfeild is better then geelong's. both teams r great though.

But 2 different styles r played between these teams. Back when Brisbane won football was at a much slower place but more physical. But now its much faster so it would be very close match. i would pay $200 to see that match

 

[my name was taken]

depends on when its played. our game is becoming exponentially softer each year. half the contact that was permitted back then now warrants a free kick or even a 50m penalty.
Brisbane back then with the old rules easily.

and with todays rules im unsure if brisbane would suit them well enough.

 

[gotheswans]

would someone do the side of essendon in 2000 to geelong in 2008??? beacuse they both have only won the one premiership this decade

 

[FootyGuru]

brisbanes forward line is much much stronger than geelongs! but i guess if it was windy and wet geelongs good small forwards would help geelong

 

[yulong]

Then maybe that suggests then that Brisbane weren't that great but Geelong are something a bit different?

I don't see how that because Brisbane were further back in the pack and not a standout side in any season, that therefore the competition was tougher. Maybe they just weren't as good.

Question - what was the competition like that Essendon faced in 2000? Pretty weak? Or was it comparable with any other season, but Essendon were simply awesome?

But even though the record wasn't as good in the home and away who did you pick each year? Especially after they won the first? Brisbane were clearly the best and always stood up in finals.

 

[PieLebo87]

Would have thought that was pretty clear-cut but I'll try again for you.

In 2003, Brisbane finished at 14-7-1 in third position (with an inferior record to any other third placed team from 1999-2008).

They lost to a 15-7 team (second position) in the Qualifying Final at the MCG.

They defeated a 13-9 team (sixth) in the Semi Final at the Gabba.

They defeated a 14-8 team (fourth) in the Preliminary Final at ANZ Stadium.

They were lucky enough to once again face a 15-7 side in the Grand Final who they defeated comfortably.

I can't see where the tough competition was that year.

Never had to play the standout side who finished three games clear on 18-4.

That 15-7 team was Collingwood and as a Collingwood supporter, without a doubt, I will acknowledge that the Lions were a whole lot better than us, even if they finished 3rd and we finished 2nd.

We beat them in the Qualifying final at the 'G on a wet night and it was a hard-fought battle which we just hung on to. There is no doubting your theory isn't up to scratch because Brisbane, no matter where you wanna say they finished, were the best side in the competition.

Lets not forget they had to endure injuries to key players throughout their reign which would contribute to a few losses. Thats something the Cats have been lucky with.

 

[Hinkley29]

What do the teams listed actually represent? Is the Brisbane team a "best of" from their 2001-2003 (or 2004) teams?

Because that team listed is definitely not a "best of" for Geelong 2007-2008.

 

[Hinkley29]

That 15-7 team was Collingwood and as a Collingwood supporter, without a doubt, I will acknowledge that the Lions were a whole lot better than us, even if they finished 3rd and we finished 2nd.

Don't sell your team short. Teams can only be judged on their win loss record. If Brisbane were better than Collingwood during the season, they would have won more games, pure and simple.

The only factor that could skew this was if Collingwood had an easy draw (or Brisbane had a difficult draw), and we all know that Collingwood have the most difficult draw every year......

 

[PieLebo87]

What do the teams listed actually represent? Is the Brisbane team a "best of" from their 2001-2003 (or 2004) teams?

Because that team listed is definitely not a "best of" for Geelong 2007-2008.

I apologise for the standard of the listed teams because I'm only a neutral supporter, and I also left out Enright by accident, whilst changing a few positions around.

If a Lions fan and Cats fan can assemble a 'best of' Lions team from 01-03 and a Cats team from 07-08 then it'd be a better comparison but I think most people get the direction this thread is going so the actual positional changes wouldn't make much of a difference.

 

[SuperHooper]

FB- Hunt, Harley, Mackie
FF- Caracella, Lynch, Bradshaw

HB- Wojcinski, Scarlett, Rooke
HF- Akermanis, Brown, Notting

C- Milburn, Ablett, Selwood
M- Ottens, Bartell, Ling
C- Headland, Black, Power
M- Keating, Voss, Lappin

HF- Corey, Mooney, Johnson
HB- Johnson, Leppitsch, Pike

FF- Chapman, Lonegan, Stokes
FB- Scott, Michael, Scott

int- Blake, Kelly, Byrnes, Varcoe
int- Charman, White, McRae, Copeland

I might've left some players out, and I may've got a few positions wrong, but you get the hint, who would win?

Des Headland instead of the double McRae on the wing.


Des Headland easily the best player in the middle of 2002


Ashcroft or Hart(Norm Smith medalist) instead of copeland

 

[horj89]

Brisbane. They have to many winners all over the ground.

Geelong's midfield is unbelievable but somehow Brisbanes is another step up.

 

[checker]

brisbane irection.
easily people under estimate how good the lions actually were.look at that forward line!

 

[GoBuddyGo]

Brisbane to win easily.

No disrespect to Geelong they are a great side but they don't have competition. Brisbane had Essendon, Port Adelaide, Sydney, Adelaide, St.Kilda etc who were pretty damn good teams through Brisbane's reign of dominance and the Lions just picked them off one by one through their brilliance and intimidation. Who have Geelong had to beat? Hawthorn and the Doggies at the moment are hardly top sides.

Geelong are at their peak while the other 15 sides are either going through a rebuilding process (Carlton, WCE, Richmond, Brisbane, Essendon, Melbourne), at a stage where they will hit their peak in one or two years time (Hawthorn, Dogs, St.Kilda, Collingwood, North) or going backwards (Sydney, Adelaide, Port Adelaide, Fremantle).

U are a tool

Brisbane easily

 

[jacko_boy]

brisbane would win but geelong will be better than the brisbane of 01-04

 

[jacko_boy]

Brisbane to win easily.

No disrespect to Geelong they are a great side but they don't have competition. Brisbane had Essendon, Port Adelaide, Sydney, Adelaide, St.Kilda etc who were pretty damn good teams through Brisbane's reign of dominance and the Lions just picked them off one by one through their brilliance and intimidation. Who have Geelong had to beat? Hawthorn and the Doggies at the moment are hardly top sides.

Geelong are at their peak while the other 15 sides are either going through a rebuilding process (Carlton, WCE, Richmond, Brisbane, Essendon, Melbourne), at a stage where they will hit their peak in one or two years time (Hawthorn, Dogs, St.Kilda, Collingwood, North) or going backwards (Sydney, Adelaide, Port Adelaide, Fremantle).

you are a complete moron...hawthorn are the second best side...they almost beat geelong...how is sydney going backwards? they continue to impress in finals

 

[scottydeewah]

Such a hard one to debate. I still love the Brisbane team.

Reckon Ling would be a big player in this. He is a tagger like no other and would go a long way to us getting the midfield dominance.

 

[brid]

From where does the myth that Brisbane had such fierce competition keep surfacing?

In 2003 they only won game more than St Kilda in 2008, lost their first final, and never had to face the season's standout team in the finals.

What about 2001 and 2002?

 

[loki04]

Brisbane to win easily.

No disrespect to Geelong they are a great side but they don't have competition. Brisbane had Essendon, Port Adelaide, Sydney, Adelaide, St.Kilda etc who were pretty damn good teams through Brisbane's reign of dominance and the Lions just picked them off one by one through their brilliance and intimidation. Who have Geelong had to beat? Hawthorn and the Doggies at the moment are hardly top sides.

Geelong are at their peak while the other 15 sides are either going through a rebuilding process (Carlton, WCE, Richmond, Brisbane, Essendon, Melbourne), at a stage where they will hit their peak in one or two years time (Hawthorn, Dogs, St.Kilda, Collingwood, North) or going backwards (Sydney, Adelaide, Port Adelaide, Fremantle).

Geelong have more competition then Essendon 00 had, Hawks have finished there rebuild and are well and truly in the hunt. Essendon 00 played in a year of a lot of ageing teams and or rebuilding sides, they were the main team with most there players in the 23 - 28 age bracket.

 

[IllBeTheJudge]

Geelong easily
Most of Brisbane's players from that era are now 35+

 

[doovies]

Brisbane to win easily.

No disrespect to Geelong they are a great side but they don't have competition. Brisbane had Essendon, Port Adelaide, Sydney, Adelaide, St.Kilda etc who were pretty damn good teams through Brisbane's reign of dominance and the Lions just picked them off one by one through their brilliance and intimidation. Who have Geelong had to beat? Hawthorn and the Doggies at the moment are hardly top sides.

Geelong are at their peak while the other 15 sides are either going through a rebuilding process (Carlton, WCE, Richmond, Brisbane, Essendon, Melbourne), at a stage where they will hit their peak in one or two years time (Hawthorn, Dogs, St.Kilda, Collingwood, North) or going backwards (Sydney, Adelaide, Port Adelaide, Fremantle).

you said in brisbanes era stkilda was a damn good team they were not they were crap that was wen they were finishing bottom 4 every year collingwood wud be a much better example as they played in 2 of the grand finals against brisbane