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[Ned Ryerson]

Dodoro and Sheedy departing the Bombers. I really hate when good things happen to that club.

 

[smish]

Dodoro and Sheedy departing the Bombers. I really hate when good things happen to that club.

After such a long career, surely Dodo deserves an encore of one more off-season?

 

[TheFourPillars]

After such a long career, surely Dodo deserves an encore of one more off-season?

It was looking like it when they were 2nd on the ladder

 

[Nugett]

Can't believe all this talk about the scum on every ****ing program every time they lose!! What's not to get? Their list and their culture align very well..... Steaming pile of shit!

They win when it matters. At trade time…

 

[KermitJagger]

Here is David King's All Australian Team, with surprisingly three Hawthorn players selected.

King’s 2024 All-Australian team​

B: Lachie Whitfield (GWS) | Jeremy McGovern (WCE) | James Sicily (HAW)
HB: Jack Sinclair (STK) | Harris Andrews (BRI) | Dan Houston (PA)
C: Errol Gulden (SYD) | Marcus Bontempelli (WB) | Massimo D’Ambrosio (HAW)
HF: Harry Sheezel (NM) | Jeremy Cameron (GEE) | Chad Warner (SYD)
F: Tyson Stengle (GEE) | Jesse Hogan (GWS) | Dylan Moore (HAW)
FOL: Max Gawn (MEL) | Isaac Heeney (SYD) | Patrick Cripps (CAR)
I/C: Nick Daicos (COL) | Adam Treloar (WB) | Hayden Young (FRE) | Zach Merrett (ESS)

You know, Kingy is a bit of a whipping boy around these parts, but this is probably one of the better All Australian sides I've seen. I'm not sure the positioning of Moore is right and I'm iffy on Sheezel as a HFF given that he's only played there for about half the season but otherwise I like it.

It actually reads like a team that I could imagine playing really good footy. With Sinclair and Sicily he's got two ball using defenders who can actually play defensively accountable footy, he's got two wings, he's got a good balance of pressure and attack up forward. Hard to find issues.

 

[cryptor]

Here is David King's All Australian Team, with surprisingly three Hawthorn players selected.

Moore is a hard lock by any measure.

Massimo should definitely be in it if they're picking a team like last year with the best performing wingers and not trying to squeeze in a centre square mid who wasn't good enough to win their actual position.

Sicily is an interesting one. To my eye he hasn't been as good or as consistent as his last 2 years. But I believe he's rated the #1 key defender by Champion Data. He's still performed incredibly given his shoulder injury and maybe his leadership of a young side into finals from 0-5 while injured gets him in so they can give him the C or VC. Deserves it after being snubbed in 2022.

 

[Steven Tyler]

You know, Kingy is a bit of a whipping boy around these parts, but this is probably one of the better All Australian sides I've seen. I'm not sure the positioning of Moore is right and I'm iffy on Sheezel as a HFF given that he's only played there for about half the season but otherwise I like it.

It actually reads like a team that I could imagine playing really good footy. With Sinclair and Sicily he's got two ball using defenders who can actually play defensively accountable footy, he's got two wings, he's got a good balance of pressure and attack up forward. Hard to find issues.

BuT hE piCkEd syDNeY tO Win thE 2014 gF By 60PTs!!!

 

[KermitJagger]

Moore is a hard lock by any measure.

Massimo should definitely be in it if they're picking a team like last year with the best performing wingers and not trying to squeeze in a centre square mid who wasn't good enough to win their actual position.

Sicily is an interesting one. To my eye he hasn't been as good or as consistent as his last 2 years. But I believe he's rated the #1 key defender by Champion Data. He's still performed incredibly given his shoulder injury and maybe his leadership of a young side into finals from 0-5 while injured gets him in so they can give him the C or VC. Deserves it after being snubbed in 2022.

Sic hasn't been as good this year, reminds me a bit of when they gave Gibbo a token AA in 2015 despite arguably having 3 or 4 better seasons.

I think what is helping Sic this year is that he's playing more of a third tall and an attacking role, so instead of competing with the likes of Andrews he's more of an individual standout. I reckon come selection time he probably won't be there without a phenomenal final 2 games, can imagine they'll go for running defenders with zero accountability and his spot will be taken by Bailey Dale or similar.

 

[Paul Kersey]

The fat drunk has some article about Hawthorn and 93 scum team.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

Dodoro and Sheedy departing the Bombers. I really hate when good things happen to that club.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

I’ll take Sic getting selection this year as a way of making up for snubbing him in 2022. Mass and Moore should be absolute locks.

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

BuT hE piCkEd syDNeY tO Win thE 2014 gF By 60PTs!!!

Now do 2013 and 2015

 

[Simon Crawshay]

You know, Kingy is a bit of a whipping boy around these parts, but this is probably one of the better All Australian sides I've seen. I'm not sure the positioning of Moore is right and I'm iffy on Sheezel as a HFF given that he's only played there for about half the season but otherwise I like it.

It actually reads like a team that I could imagine playing really good footy. With Sinclair and Sicily he's got two ball using defenders who can actually play defensively accountable footy, he's got two wings, he's got a good balance of pressure and attack up forward. Hard to find issues.

Moore is a lock.

Sic will/should get a square up for the travesty that was 2022.

Massimo is 50/50 at best as they usually only pick one specialist winger which will be Gulden.

 

[VernonSpots]

No Essendon fan-boi on the Committee will push for Mass as it would make their disgraceful club look more disgraceful.

I agree Sicily will get in there as well acknowledged he is playing injured and putting in some inspired performances.

 

[cryptor]

If Sicily is to be named in the AA team then I'm going to cut Simon Crawshay 's lunch and suggest that Scrimshaw should be in the AA squad of 40. They've had very similar outputs this year and personally I think Scrimshaw has been more consistent.

 

[mustang]

Soccer has always had higher participation rates than the contact sport codes. I played soccer as a kid through to my teens but would always be talking about other sports as would most of the people I played with. Never underestimate the power of cautious parents.

If Soccer was the number one sport in Australia we would be so good at it.

 

[Billyc]

Bit flat about Dodoro and Sheedy moving on.

Holding out hope that Robbo can put together a ticket with James Hird, his demented old man, Tim and Jobe Watson to stage a coup

 

[mustang]

Moore is a hard lock by any measure.

Massimo should definitely be in it if they're picking a team like last year with the best performing wingers and not trying to squeeze in a centre square mid who wasn't good enough to win their actual position.

Sicily is an interesting one. To my eye he hasn't been as good or as consistent as his last 2 years. But I believe he's rated the #1 key defender by Champion Data. He's still performed incredibly given his shoulder injury and maybe his leadership of a young side into finals from 0-5 while injured gets him in so they can give him the C or VC. Deserves it after being snubbed in 2022.

Who has had a better year Sicily or Scrimshaw?

 

[Billyc]

Who has had a better year Sicily or Scrimshaw?

If you measure it just on performance and not expectation, Sicily. Scrimshaw has improved enormously whereas Sicily was better the last two seasons which clouds it a bit. Both been excellent.

 

[extractasam]

Bit flat about Dodoro and Sheedy moving on.

Holding out hope that Robbo can put together a ticket with James Hird, his demented old man, Tim and Jobe Watson to stage a coup

Same. It’s a sad day. You have to think this happening 24 hours after Sheedy leaving is no coincidence.

Part of me thinks he isn’t actually gone and it’s just some sort of bluff again so I’ll believe it when he doesn’t walk in the doors for a good year.

 

[cryptor]

Who has had a better year Sicily or Scrimshaw?

Just on intuition I feel Sicily has had more games where he's been in the top 5 performers on the ground, whereas Scrim has been more consistent in being among the top 10.

Looking at the Coaches Association votes would seem to support that as Sicily is well ahead on that measure where votes generally only get awarded to those in the top 5 or so and tend to be more midfielder focused.

Scrim also sometimes having to play more defensive so Sicily can be attacking tips the scales.

I don't expect Scrim would actually get named in the squad. I just think he's had an awesome year that has enabled guys like Sicily and Amon to light it up for us.

I do expect he'll be recognised strongly in the PCM.

 

[Simon Crawshay]

If Sicily is to be named in the AA team then I'm going to cut Simon Crawshay 's lunch and suggest that Scrimshaw should be in the AA squad of 40. They've had very similar outputs this year and personally I think Scrimshaw has been more consistent.

I try and moderate my Scrimmers praise these days but you are percent on the money with that call Senor Cryptor

 

[Bedi]

Moore is a hard lock by any measure.

Massimo should definitely be in it if they're picking a team like last year with the best performing wingers and not trying to squeeze in a centre square mid who wasn't good enough to win their actual position.

Sicily is an interesting one. To my eye he hasn't been as good or as consistent as his last 2 years. But I believe he's rated the #1 key defender by Champion Data. He's still performed incredibly given his shoulder injury and maybe his leadership of a young side into finals from 0-5 while injured gets him in so they can give him the C or VC. Deserves it after being snubbed in 2022.

Hopefully his match-winning forward cameos help get him over the line

 

[bigmaxi]

Dodoro and Sheedy departing the Bombers. I really hate when good things happen to that club.

It’s a sad day indeed. They were so instrumental in the past 20 years of final failure I hate to see them go. All good things must come to an end I suppose.