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[TONYC3163]

‘They do not’ in response to another poster can’t really be taken many ways.

It’s a pedantic argument because it is a ‘yes’ or ‘no’ question. Can an umpire influence a game/result?

No one decision does, - you have 120 mins of player, coach and umpire decisions (not to mention the bounce of the ball)
People focus on the decision at the end and forget about the HTB not being paid in the first minute.
Build a bridge, get over it, and move on.

 

[DogDaySonny]

No one decision does, - you have 120 mins of player, coach and umpire decisions (not to mention the bounce of the ball)
People focus on the decision at the end and forget about the HTB not being paid in the first minute.
Build a bridge, get over it, and move on.

I've got a very good friend who is a Carlton supporter. I find he tends to remember every decision, bounce or non-call in every match over the last 10 years. And he focuses on the one, no matter how old, that best suits his grievance at that very minute.

 

[I got the outside word]

No one decision does, - you have 120 mins of player, coach and umpire decisions (not to mention the bounce of the ball)
People focus on the decision at the end and forget about the HTB not being paid in the first minute.
Build a bridge, get over it, and move on.

We are still stuck on the decision I used as an example which I have explained is just that, an example.
I’ve also explained that I am not whinging about a specific decision or result, no bridge needed.

TFP has spoken in absolutes about something and is wrong. Simple as that. As many posters as youse want can pile up and comment but my point is that umpires can influence games, to say they can’t is wrong and I don’t think I have deviated from that.

I feel like what I have written has been misinterpreted and resulted in a bunch of responses that are completely irrelevant of my point. Maybe the way I have tried to convey said point has influenced that or maybe it’s out of my control.

 

[KermitJagger]

We are still stuck on the decision I used as an example which I have explained is just that, an example.
I’ve also explained that I am not whinging about a specific decision or result, no bridge needed.

TFP has spoken in absolutes about something and is wrong. Simple as that. As many posters as youse want can pile up and comment but my point is that umpires can influence games, to say they can’t is wrong and I don’t think I have deviated from that.

I feel like what I have written has been misinterpreted and resulted in a bunch of responses that are completely irrelevant of my point. Maybe the way I have tried to convey said point has influenced that or maybe it’s out of my control.

I don't think anyone has missed your point, it's just that you really don't have one. Which was why I asked, what do you get out of it if someone agrees with you and says yes the umpires do influence results?

Yes the umpires influence, results - can we control that? No. So in reality it's completely irrelevant to the result.

 

[DogDaySonny]

 

[kazzooka]

To think a timekeeper error ultimately cost us 2nd spot.

While that's true. We made more errors in the last 2 minutes of that game than umpires and time keepers did all game.

Seriously, how hard is it to force a 2nd bounce yet we setup like we were trying to win a clearance.

 

[Mercy Seat]

To think a timekeeper error ultimately cost us 2nd spot.

I think that loss might have earned us more wins along the way. We learned a hell of a lot in that game.

 

[phlogiston]

TFP has spoken in absolutes about something and is wrong.

I’m not that interested in this argument but just wanted to say how much I enjoyed this sentence.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

OK, who replaced robbo? He wrote an article that didn't toe the company line re:wildcard weekend

 

[Geead]

Let's see if the AFL does the right thing:

Jones in hot water over Cadman treatment

Liam Jones may have a case to answer after this dumping tackle on Aaron Cadman

www.afl.com.au

Could Day have a case to answer for this fierce tackle?

Hawthorn's Will Day may find himself in hot water for this tenacious tackle on Brad Close

www.afl.com.au

 

[Off The Couch]

Let's see if the AFL does the right thing:

Jones in hot water over Cadman treatment

Liam Jones may have a case to answer after this dumping tackle on Aaron Cadman

www.afl.com.au

Could Day have a case to answer for this fierce tackle?

Hawthorn's Will Day may find himself in hot water for this tenacious tackle on Brad Close

www.afl.com.au

Media, including David King (the loudest mouth on these tackles) are saying it’s a fine at most

 

[Geead]

Media, including David King (the loudest mouth on these tackles) are saying it’s a fine at most

Typical... but if it was Sicily they'd be calling for 3 weeks

 

[Hawkers Hero]

Typical... but if it was Sicily they'd be calling for 3 weeks

Sounds like most are saying AFL has to give him a week to keep sending the message but he will get off at tribunal (im sure a little nudge nudge wink wink from the AFL there)

 

[play2win]

Media, including David King (the loudest mouth on these tackles) are saying it’s a fine at most

King has bet on dogs for the flag. He always supports where he has placed his money.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

King has bet on dogs for the flag. He always supports where he has placed his money.

Biggest bettor around.

 

[RoughysMullet]

Let's see if the AFL does the right thing:

Jones in hot water over Cadman treatment

Liam Jones may have a case to answer after this dumping tackle on Aaron Cadman

www.afl.com.au

Could Day have a case to answer for this fierce tackle?

Hawthorn's Will Day may find himself in hot water for this tenacious tackle on Brad Close

www.afl.com.au

Only thing that might help Jones is the GWS player had one arm free - although he had the ball in that arm which made it hard to brace for the fall…

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

Only thing that might help Jones is the GWS player had one arm free - although he had the ball in that arm which made it hard to brace for the fall…

If Sicily did it, he'd miss a month. Guaranteed month.

There would be no fanfare. Just people telling us to accept it

 

[Off The Couch]

So a fine it is

Wouldn’t be a suspended player anywhere this year that isn’t asking the “wtf” question

 

[Brishawk]

And the answer is there is nothing you can do about it.

There is one thing you can do about it…

 

[rei154]

Genuinely think the AFL is one of the weakest sporting bodies in the world- absolute pushovers when it comes finals time and bowing to the sensationalist media compared to other codes. Jones being let off shows how little they care for player welfare.

On a side note, I'd love it if the AFL gave Melbourne a "please explain" for their constant disregard for the appeals process and their lack of ability to grow their players and move them away from dirty play.
Kozi might be talented, but he's one of the dodgiest players when it comes to his regard for his opponents. Any club with a good culture would have stamped it out two years ago.
Disgrace imo.

 

[Bugs1977]

Who da faq did this?

 

[westaussie76]

AFL really are a joke of an organisation.

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[KermitJagger]

They do get a bit weak at the knees when it comes to suspensions around finals time eh

 

[Geead]

Sounds like most are saying AFL has to give him a week to keep sending the message but he will get off at tribunal (im sure a little nudge nudge wink wink from the AFL there)

If Sicily did it, he'd miss a month. Guaranteed month.

There would be no fanfare. Just people telling us to accept it

Lol typical... ofc he got off with just a fine!

I'd be okay with this finals bias if I knew our players (and all other teams) would get treated the same, but we never get leniency from the MRO - Sicily 100% cops 2 weeks for that in the same situation.

 

[Maybloomer]

They do get a bit weak at the knees when it comes to suspensions around finals time eh

Dillon just said on AFL 360 that it depends on the impact on the player as to what the punishment is. Player gets hurt, you get suspended. No harm, little foul. How the hell does that remove this dangerous act from the game ? Isn’t that what they’re trying to do?
Punish the act, not the outcome. You did with Cyril, getting 2 weeks for attempted striking