Cant believe Toby Greene didnt get a look in for AA squad.
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Remember when Jai Newcombe had 14 tackles and 13 disposals in his first game
He'll end up at Norf to pair up with Wardlaw.
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Thought they were pathetic yesterday all things considered. That said Port played really well but considering what was on the line - wow. Can't remember a Freo player not fumbling.
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Nat Fyfe is all about Nat Fyfe.
Hes a selfish prick that will stay on until he’s told to retire.
He should have already retired.
every time i switch over to a GWS game he seems to be involved in important plays, but cant say i've watched all their games.
Has been a horrible year for him personally
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There bigger issue is still having JOM for another 2 years on good coin.
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A horrible year for him is still better than pretty much every other small forward out there. Significantly better year than Rayner and statistically a better year than Stengle (who probably makes the team)..
Has been a horrible year for him personally
It’s only that he’s getting marked against his own high standard that it seems like he hasn’t been really good where he’s probably been the second best small forward behind Moore.
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Thought Toby Greene’s form dropped off this season. Obviously still a gun. Just as likely to go bang this September. 31 next month - gee time flies.
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View attachment 2092912Analysis - Hawks 2022 Hypothetical trades (read the pinned post)
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Wasn't huge on him during his draft year, collected heaps of the ball but did nothing with it.
Same here. Some were spruiking Tsatas on here (we all have our favourites each season), but Mackenzie's class by foot made him a much better and more appealing prospect IMO.
We have already seen Mackenzie pull off some great kicks to date that Tsatas could only dream about.
Has had a better season than Sicily for mineScrimmers unlucky not to make the squad as an aside.
He's had an absolutely massive year has Jack, been an absolute rock at CHB
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Agree, but Sicily is owed an AA from 2 years ago.
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He's really not, the Goodwin and Oliver situations are far worse than being openly reported, and it's not at all just limited to them.
Not only that, do you feel like Sam and our club doctors would have let Will Day (or any of our players) go back out there against Collingwood on that day? I'd wager we wouldn't play chicken with our players lives even on GF day.
If a Taranto or Hopper said I want out of here I didn't expect to be shit, I'd say well you signed the deal.
Trac almost died, had f*** all support from the club around it, had to announce that his own season is over because the Dees wanted to keep the door open, his coach has a history of doing drugs and punting with his own players, his best teammate spent the entire preseason doing drugs and then played basically every game off of no preseason.
Then after all that the club is steadfast in their support of Goodwin and Oliver and Gawn gets wheeled out constantly to tow the company line. I'd be out of there too.
The similarities between Petracca and Melbourne and Judd and west coast is crazy. It’s just that Petracca is contracted. No one blamed Judd for leaving the eagles
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If Petracca was your kid you'd want him out of that environment quick smart. Don't blame him for wanting out at all.
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All these years and “poor Judd” still gets trotted out. The only similarity is that once again a players wants desperately out, but then places conditions on where he goes
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The whole "brand" stuff is clearly the media trying to add mayo to the story.
I don't know him personally, but live near where he grew up and everyone I know who knows him couldn't speak more highly of him.
Dees culture is an absolute dumpster fire and it's totally in his right to try get out of there.
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Yup - if I was trying to rebuild a club culture I would be doing it around Petracca, not Oliver and Goodwin. Get rid of Goodwin, any management that has permitted the shit culture and trade Oliver and use this draft to start rebuilding around Petracca and just hope you can get him to agree to stick around for a mini-rebuild before Tassie enter.
From the outside it looks like one of the problems is how close Goodwin is to some of the 'bad eggs' in the playing group - the ones that Trac probably has issues with.
Getting rid of Goodwin might upset a large section of the playing cohort... more trouble from a whole club perspective than just allowing Trac to leave.
Very interesting watch, that is for sure.
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I wonder if the AFL's "We'll help you not get caught when you party hardy on the coke and whatnot" was running overtime at Melbourne. There could be a few fevered conversations and whatsapp groupchats on private phones cleanups underway. But all communications, private device or not, are discoverable...
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No argument from me.
I said at the start of this year that Melbourne would miss the finals and Goodwin would be the coach most in trouble other than Simpson.
In the short term it doesn't matter what they do - they are going to miss the 8 next year regardless of whether Trac stays or goes, or whether Goodwin stays or goes.
Long term, they must act now if they want to avoid another decade at the bottom of the ladder.
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You know, Hawks attendance being 6th in the league despite playing 4 games in Tassie at an average of 12k attendance is pretty impressive. Replace those with MCG games at average attendance and we slot in at 4th.
Reckon Essington are only up there by virtue of all the "special" games they get. Anzac Day, Dreamtime etc.
Reckon Essington are only up there by virtue of all the "special" games they get. Anzac Day, Dreamtime etc.
| Team | Attendance | Average |
| Collingwood | 1367002 | 59435 |
| Carlton | 1277120 | 55527 |
| Essendon | 1148090 | 49917 |
| Hawthorn (MCG Replacement) | 1122969 | 48825 |
| Richmond | 1004886 | 43691 |
| Geelong | 965516 | 41979 |
| Hawthorn | 938515 | 40805 |
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