Rumour GFC 2017 Player Trading, Drafting, FA, Rumours, and Wish lists - PT2

[Biggy_Boy]

We've never done the sexy thing in trade week and been pretty successful thus far.

If you want a team that promises the world and delivers nothing barrack for Carlton.

I think many would think 2015 was.

 

[Turbocat]

I have to say I'm heartened by what SWells said...in that apart from Ablett we may not do anything else...and we may go hard at the draft.

 

[JohnZ]

How do people expect Geelong to go any farther next year after losing Motlop, Menzel, Lonergan and Mackie and gaining no experience in return? Who's kicking the goals next year?

Window is closed up tight and Scott's downfall is on the horizon. Looking forward to seeing a real rebuild under a quality coach. It's coming soon.

Bring in Ablett and Motlop Compo. Package picks 19 and 21 and shop it around. Otherwise, go to the draft.

And 6 months after a new coach is brought in, are you going to look forward to when they are also sacked? Just admit right now you have a deep seething hatred for the club, or you must just be a miserable person who sees a full cup empty.

 

[Biggy_Boy]

Pick 20 is being saved as "insurance" for Ablett. That was my take out.

If Wells gives up pick 20 for Ablett, he should be fired.

 

[ShaunWDT]

Link for anyone who missed while working/studying.
https://omny.fm/shows/trade-radio/stephen-wells-on-nab-afl-trade-radio-2

 

[Art Vandelay_]

I'm happy, buddy. These moves guarantee Geelong falls next year and will precipitate Scott's expulsion from the club.

This is why you’re pathetic. You’re happy as it improves our chance of falling.
That really should be a board ban offence.

 

[Biggy_Boy]

Bring in Ablett and Motlop Compo. Package picks 19 and 21 and shop it around. Otherwise, go to the draft.

And 6 months after a new coach is brought in, are you going to look forward to when they are also sacked? Just admit right now you have a deep seething hatred for the club, or you must just be a miserable person who sees a full cup empty.

Nope, I'd support a real coach who is willing to do what's in the best interests of the club. Scott is not that.

 

[CatTricks]

Wells: "The sky is definitely falling. We are doomed. Run for the hills."

 

[Overhang]

Makes me wonder if these trades in the past we're we have been considered quite generous at the trade table are coming back to bite us. Maybe clubs are seeing us as a push over and demanding we pay overs. Either way I would rather we stand firm and show we won't be forced into a poor deal for out footy club.

 

[nananana catman]

Wells should shelve the "deal unlikely to get done" rubbish based on what Clubs are asking for in the first three days, until AFTER the player has nominated you.
Clubs will always say they won't let players go for less than xxx.... Doesn't mean once player has nominated and there's a day to go they won't change their mind.
Geez, Carlton probably would've moved from a first round pick for Henderson (playing in the two's) and Tuohy (insulting offer) late in the period....

It's like Stephen is the kindly naive man.... I hope he's just talking crap to play games.

That'd be really poor management though.

The reason we get players coming to our club is because we get deals done. If a myriad of players nominate and we can't get it done players won't nominate us anymore.

Look at Essendon.

Melbourne clearly wanting way too much at the moment, and we shouldn't explore offering a contract until that changes.

 

[JohnZ]

Nope, I'd support a real coach who is willing to do what's in the best interests of the club. Scott is not that.

Ok then. Hypothetical, Chris Scott has just been sacked. Who realistically is on the market that would do a better job?

 

[STPer18]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-10/stringer-camp-slams-dogs-over-total-backflip

"That's a bit frustrating from our point of view, and I'm experiencing it with another trade, but all of a sudden clubs are publicly wanting to put our players and any player on the market, and then they go 'Oh hang on, we actually want pick 10 for this player or pick 20' but there's a caveat on it," Connors said.

Sounds like Melbourne are pulling a Bulldogs here. Both clubs happy to turf their players out under contract, but at the same time demanding they get compensated heavily for it. For all we know Wells has offered Melbourne our pick 20 but they aren't willing to part with Watts for anything outside the top ten. Trades done fairly, that includes the GAJ trade, or we just take our picks to the draft and get some elite young talent. Very happy with what Wells had to say.

 

[Turbocat]

If Wells gives up pick 20 for Ablett, he should be fired.

If thats a full stop deal.. you may have a point... but you know it will not be a full stop.

 

[Grimoz]

Reckon Gaz will be getting a bit edgy knowing he has burnt his bridges with Gold Coast now after that go home article.

 

[ShaunWDT]

Watts would be cash related, not pick related.

 

[nananana catman]

I think many would think 2015 was.

We paid good currency to get things done. Didn't go to mediation, didn't drag it our for days and days...

 

[Johanpetro]

Question to everyone preferring to go to the draft (with not even great picks) over bringing in players like Stringer , Watts, Ablett etc... why? Our premiership window in now, not in 5 years when those draft picks will be relevant, if they even turn out good at all.

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

I still think if we don't land anyone during the period we'd keep him.

Stephen Wells on TR today said if Menz & Lang don't find another club they'll be at Geelong next year.


He also implied the Watts thing is done, and Jack won't play at Geelong next year. No deal.

 

[THE CAT WRANGLER]

I think with the spare 1.7 mill + salary cap we should just give it to Zach Guthrie

 

[zb14]

With so many outlets now running 24/7 footy "news", PR is critical to your trade armoury. On this front, Wells is a reliably poor performer IMO.

 

[fpm84]

I'm intrigued about his Watts comments.

When Wells talks about satisfying Melbourne's demands he obviously means at the trade table.

As it stands we hold a much better hand than Port Adelaide in that regard.

Their first pick is #29. None of the players they are trading out (Ah Chee etc) will gain higher picks than that.

Ours is #20 and we are a decent chance to pick up an extra top 20 pick for Motlop.

So do Melbourne want #20 straight up? If that's the case Port certainly can't satisfy them.

Wells mentioned that we are interested in Watts and he is interested in us.

Is is possible he's putting a bit of pressure on Melbourne to lower their demands?

Or is it possible we will be prepared to trade #20 if we get a high compo pick for Motlop?

 

[nananana catman]

Stephen Wells on TR today said if Menz & Lang don't find another club they'll be at Geelong next year. He also implied the Watts thing is over, and he won't play at Geelong next year.

He didn't say the Watts thing is over. But its clearly a message to Melbourne they want too much.

 

[THE CAT WRANGLER]

Every club holding their ground except for us from previous years take note

 

[catempire]

I'm happy, buddy. These moves guarantee Geelong falls next year

Either not a Geelong supporter in which case you're here under false pretences or, in the slim alternative reality where you are a Geelong supporter, you are trolling fellow supporters. Begone.

 

[Baudolino]

Exactly. Very happy with what he said. Trades at the right price or we go to the draft. Pretty simple and sound.

What do you think he was alluding to by way of the price Melbourne were expecting us to pay for Watts?