Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 1

[Willo_]

Cool so let's not discuss anything for the next 30 days - on a forum for discussing prospective draft and trade talent.

Cheers bud

lol defensive much

lighten the f**k up

 

[Willo_]

Hoping for a Joel Selwood with pick 8 and a Tim Kelly with 25 be back draft night to watch it come true.

I just assume that both these things are going to happen

 

[FootyLad0]

I would not be looking to swap the picks we have.

I'd hope they use pick on a tall defender.. Curtin is unlikely to be available so O'Sullivan or Murphy would be the targets, Caddy if for some reason they aren't available.

Pick 25, I'd be after George Stevens. Linked to us already and played a couple of VFL game (picking up 29 possessions in his last game)

Scoops? Is that you? We know you're obsessed with us buddy but this is a bit much lol

 

[D BRIDGE]

I'm not a fan of North's 15, 17, 18 for our 8 + 25.

Not sure if North even hold their own F2 but if we could also add on getting their F2 (if they hold it) for our F2 or F3 going back then that would sweeten it enough to get me thinking.

Getting a better draft hand next year could be handy "if" we have intentions to make a play for JUH or Smith (can only assume we will at Smith).

15, 17 & 18 will just about all push into the 20's... and that's really not ideal.

#8 is a very strong pick and I wouldn't want to be giving it up just to get 1 more speculative pick.

 

[gogeelongcats]

10-14-20 for 8-25 would be almost a no brainer. Can’t see that being offered though.

throw in a F2

 

[FootyLad0]

We'll take 8 and 25 to the draft, draft players and use the back end picks for Rookie stuff.
Nothing complicated about it.

Bookmark this ladies and gents. We make zero moves during the draft and hold firm.

8 for Best Player Available
25 for someone who more fits a role we need
76 on a sleeper pick

87 and 94 on Rookie elevation

Lets not complicate this folks, we'd be lucky to move up at all without giving up something of value next year and the offers to drop back and split by the sounds of it have been poop.

10-14-20 for 8-25 is a pipe dream.

Believe in WellsMack!

 

[BORIS332]

Bookmark this ladies and gents. We make zero moves during the draft and hold firm.

8 for Best Player Available
25 for someone who more fits a role we need
76 on a sleeper pick

87 and 94 on Rookie elevation

Lets not complicate this folks, we'd be lucky to move up at all without giving up something of value next year and the offers to drop back and split by the sounds of it have been poop.

10-14-20 for 8-25 is a pipe dream.

Believe in WellsMack!

I reckon it all depends on Sanders. If he's there we take him, if he's not we trade back/out.

 

[dont stop me meow]

Did you forget to change from your burner account?

Thought the exact same thing haha

 

[D BRIDGE]

I reckon it all depends on Sanders. If he's there we take him, if he's not we trade back/out.

Do North or someone else look to trade up with us to get Caddy or Wilson?

Because the player/s they are keen on may very well be off the board once our pick is up.

So many things could happen with us a pick 8 and I look forward to seeing how it unfolds.

Nothing is set in stone that's for sure.

 

[year of the cat]

Wonder with Joel Smith's future looking shaky whether the D's may look at Caddy?

 

[Jumping Jack]

Wonder with Joel Smith's future looking shaky whether the D's may look at Caddy?

Wouldn't panic if I were Melbourne. Smith will only miss the mandatory 4 years, and then he's available for selection.

 

[fpm84]

Wonder with Joel Smith's future looking shaky whether the D's may look at Caddy?

Plus Petty wanting a trade to SA, and potentially wanting out again this time next year even though he's contracted to end of 2025.

 

[year of the cat]

Wouldn't panic if I were Melbourne. Smith will only miss the mandatory 4 years, and then he's available for selection.

Will go in the blink of an eye. With Petracca's career.

 

[BORIS332]

Plus Petty wanting a trade to SA, and potentially wanting out again this time next year even though he's contracted to end of 2025.

Maybe that puts Curtin/O'Sullivan in Melb's sights.

 

[moond0g]

Correct. I've thought for a little while now, that the only way we can guarantee getting Sanders, is by offering up a Future 2nd to either GWS or Melbourne, to swap spots with us. Pick 25 wouldn't achieve a thing, but a mid 20's pick next year to move 1 or 2 spots while staying in that 'elite' bracket - that may do it.

No guarantees, but it's more likely to achieve something, as opposed to Pick 25 in this draft - which is essentially worthless for movement at the top end.

Will be interesting to see on draft night, that's for sure.

The problem I see with trying to trade up is either 25 or a F2 would probably move us up one spot at best.

And the only way I see GWS agreeing to swap with us is if they are confident we're not going to pick the player they want. e.g., Caddy and Sanders are available and they want Caddy, but think we'd take Sanders so they agree to move back on spot (the names are interchangeable though). I just don't thing a F2 is going to outweigh not getting the top end player they want this year.

And if we're not going to pick the player they want, we might as well just stick with 8, because they'll still be there after the Giants pick anyway.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Wonder with Joel Smith's future looking shaky whether the D's may look at Caddy?

Dees have taken Van Rooyen + Jefferson as key forwards with early picks of late.

May and Lever and getting older and it sounds like Petty will be goners in the next year or two so I personally just think if the Dees hold #6 they will take O'Sullivan to help sure up their key backs for the future (OS can also play as a swing man).

Just a guess and have thought it for a while... Could be wrong but it makes the most sense to me... Making sense doesn't mean it'll happen though.

 

[00VicWard001]

The talk of using pick 25 to trade up is quite perplexing given all we’ve heard on here for the past week is that it’s basically worthless

To me, it was apparent that Mackie was a bit nervous during that conversation.

He's still learning how to be the frontman.

Wells had this really nice easy going laconic style that he had developed over decades. Mackie was standoffish and I think in the end he blinked and was trying to make it out that he hadnt.

He never mentioned Port in that conversation, only Esava's manager.

He tried to bluff that we got what we wanted, but had to be fed questions - especially the one where Esava wasnt contracted. He finally warmed up to it once he was able to fall back on one of his strategies/strengths about how we have been drafting youth recently.

Overall, I don't think he's helped his reputation. Has a confident and smug (ruthless?) outlook after being in THAT team. All the Media reported that we were being unreasonable. And its subjective if we were, but if he held out to the very very end and then conceded getting some dregs picks, then he hasnt really carried his normal stance on these things (Scarlett would have sent Sav to the draft). Maybe he was told to concede by Hocking? Or maybe he just conceded. Maybe Port thought - 119 - we're not gonna take a backwards step on this.

Either way, I think it could have been done alot better. Pretty sure Port would have handed those picks with 25 on day 1 if we asked.

 

[dazbroncos]

Can we get that draft pick table stickied to the top of this thread as per part 2 please mods?

yup.... messed tha part up.... sorry.

GO Catters

 

[moond0g]

To me, it was apparent that Mackie was a bit nervous during that conversation.

He's still learning how to be the frontman.

Wells had this really nice easy going laconic style that he had developed over decades. Mackie was standoffish and I think in the end he blinked and was trying to make it out that he hadnt.

He never mentioned Port in that conversation, only Esava's manager.

He tried to bluff that we got what we wanted, but had to be fed questions - especially the one where Esava wasnt contracted. He finally warmed up to it once he was able to fall back on one of his strategies/strengths about how we have been drafting youth recently.

Overall, I don't think he's helped his reputation. Has a confident and smug (ruthless?) outlook after being in THAT team. All the Media reported that we were being unreasonable. And its subjective if we were, but if he held out to the very very end and then conceded getting some dregs picks, then he hasnt really carried his normal stance on these things (Scarlett would have sent Sav to the draft). Maybe he was told to concede by Hocking? Or maybe he just conceded. Maybe Port thought - 119 - we're not gonna take a backwards step on this.

Either way, I think it could have been done alot better. Pretty sure Port would have handed those picks with 25 on day 1 if we asked.

He was between a rock and a hard place, so I don't think there was much more he could have done tbh.

I don't have any issue with the trade - we got about exactly as expected - but it's just amusing watching people posting throughout the saga about how we should have got a first rounder because 25 was worth nothing; we're going to send him to the draft; or that we'd be able to get him to re-sign at a pinch, none of which were ever going to happen.

Particularly funny when the same people who said 25 was worthless then tried to spin getting 94 as justification of Mackie's hard-line stance. Or that 25 may be able to tempt another team into sliding back in the order.

But you're right about the last sentence, this could have been completed in the first hour of trade period.

 

[Sire of Claude]

Mackie wasn't deliberately obscure; he's obscure without even trying.

 

[year of the cat]

I think if we do trade 8 the most likely outcome I think will be for a FF as part of it with a downgrade to a teens pick in this draft.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

10-14-20 for 8-25 would be almost a no brainer. Can’t see that being offered though.

Agreed.
But I can easily see 10 and 20 being on offer for 8 & 25.

 

[year of the cat]

Agreed.
But I can easily see 10 and 20 being on offer for 8 & 25.

Which wouldn't be enough I don't think. There's a bigger premium on top 10 picks than just a 5 pick upgrade on a pick in the 20's.

 

[cats_09]

 

[year of the cat]

All they could offer is 4, FF and F2.