Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 2

[cats_09]

Ask and we'll try our best to assist - so here's 2024 Provisional AFL Draft Order

As normal, would like to acknowledge & thank Lore for creating this, keeping it up to date and making it available for all users on BF to use and keep track of the picks ahead of the upcoming draft





I'll also sticky this post to ensure it's easily accessible for discussion of our hypothetical trader


Also,

2024 Free Agency Period​

The AFL introduced free agency at the end of the 2012 season, giving players another vehicle where they can transfer from one club to another. Free agency is a common form of player movement in major football and sporting codes around the world.

Free Agency Opens: Friday October 4 at 9.00am
Free Agency Closes: Friday October 11 at 5.00pm

Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period​

Trade Period Opens: Monday October 7 at 9.00am
Trade Period Closes: Wednesday October 16 at 7.30pm

 

[iameviljez]

Correct but this way would save the uncertainty of not knowing if he will get picked up or not.

Free Agency window opens before trade period.

 

[iameviljez]

This is the question I had before that post somehow mistook for being about trading for an Irish player.

Isn't the dfa thing only if we offered him a rookie contract? If we offer a senior list contract he's not DFA

No, he is still DFA. You can’t be a rookie for three years.

 

[iameviljez]

I was disappointed we didn't reward effort this year, and while we knew Mitch Hardie didn't suit our style of play he should have been rewarded with at least 1 game.

Rewarding effort is for local footy.

 

[Mattlock]

Rewarding effort is for local footy.

X2

 

[Warhorse]

Rewarding effort is for local footy.

Selection integrity is for AFL

 

[iameviljez]

Selection integrity is for AFL

To a certain degree. No doubt that talent gets you a couple of games before you might have "earned" them.

 

[Warhorse]

To a certain degree. No doubt that talent gets you a couple of games before you might have "earned" them.

He was definitely hard done by with players like Mullins running around at AFL level

 

[iameviljez]

He was definitely hard done by with players like Mullins running around at AFL level

Yep, and Jhye Clark getting a game perhaps before he'd earned it at VFL as well.

But, life's not always fair - the guys who may have a higher ceiling get a game first.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

No, he is still DFA. You can’t be a rookie for three years.

Yeah it just seems pretty out there to me that a side can offer curent a player senior list contract and they refuse and now they're delisted?

 

[iameviljez]

Yeah it just seems pretty out there to me that a side can offer curent a player senior list contract and they refuse and now they're delisted?

If they have been on two year-long rookie list contracts already, I think that's reasonable. If you offer the guy a Senior list contract after one year, then they aren't free agents.

 

[00VicWard001]

I was joking comparing Carlton, Visy + Judd. Except:

“The AFL is going to monitor this potential deal with a fine-tooth comb because as we know, there are clubs that are concerned – I’ll throw this, the Chris Judd-Visy deal is floating in the background here – because Bailey Smith is an ambassador for Cotton On and has been since 2022,” Herald Sun journalist Scott Gullan said Fox Footy’s Midweek Tackle earlier this month.

“Cotton On are the major sponsor at Geelong, you’re allowed to have third party deals, but the intricacies of how this is going to lob is going to be under the scrutiny, big time, by the AFL,” he said.

The reality of Baz playing for Geelong is that Cotton On will get an even bigger bump of sales, as it’s from here and he will be iconic for them (as an influencer). He would rightly demand to be paid a lot more as he will have greater impact being part of the team.

So it’s sort of this win win win for Baz, Cotton On and the Cats.

The AFL would see that it is completely justified for him to get a bigger pay packet from Cotton On.

Probably one of the smoothest heists you’ll ever see…

 

[Schmegg]

Could be blue moonism but the Doggie’s board are burning Geelong/Cotton On deal to the ground along with implicating the AFL whilst simultaneously forcing Geelong to offer more to keep them quiet and the dogs offering SDK 6 years which he’s apparently keen on….

 

[iameviljez]

The reality of Baz playing for Geelong is that Cotton On will get an even bigger bump of sales, as it’s from here and he will be iconic for them (as an influencer). He would rightly demand to be paid a lot more as he will have greater impact being part of the team.

So it’s sort of this win win win for Baz, Cotton On and the Cats.

The AFL would see that it is completely justified for him to get a bigger pay packet from Cotton On.

Probably one of the smoothest heists you’ll ever see…

The difference being that Bailey Smith will actually bring some kind of value to Cotton On.

 

[supahoops]

He was definitely hard done by with players like Mullins running around at AFL level

Clueless & can’t even get his name right.

 

[Munich]

He was definitely hard done by with players like Mullins running around at AFL level

FFS

 

[catman2006]

Rewarding effort is for local footy.

Then Neale and mullin shouldn't have played as both fairly average at the moment.

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

Looked like every nervous Geelong supporter!!!

It’s at the blues AFLW game mate not ours.

 

[Munich]

Looked like every nervous Geelong supporter!!!

That's not our game...

 

[iameviljez]

Then Neale and mullin shouldn't have played as both fairly average at the moment.

Neale and Mullin got games based on potential, and, in Neale's case, the decline of Hawkins.

That's life in elite sport - sometimes, talent gets the gig.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

No, he is still DFA. You can’t be a rookie for three years.

Ok so on that logic ollie dempsey, who was ooc in 2023 in his last year on the rookie list, became a dfa and under the fa for life rules is now always an unrestricted free agent when ooc?

 

[CatsDoItBetter]

id much prefer to keep Dekoning but if we can get a good deal for him I wouldn’t be too concerned as long as we can turn it into some quality players.
It’s probably not the best time to trade him though he’s been poor for two years. And a real weakness in him has been unearthed which is his competitiveness and contest work.
On the other hand he’s really shown his versatility with some scintillating plays in the ruck. A team us or another could really work with him from now to make him work in any area of the ground. That’s appealing to many clubs but it does strike me as strange that the dogs would be trying to get another 200cm player.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Could be blue moonism but the Doggie’s board are burning Geelong/Cotton On deal to the ground along with implicating the AFL whilst simultaneously forcing Geelong to offer more to keep them quiet and the dogs offering SDK 6 years which he’s apparently keen on….

I read through 7 or 8 pages of the Dogs board yesterday and it is some of the most unhinged stuff you can imagine.

They are all whipping themselves into an absolute frenzy... frothing at the mouth stuff.

A couple of them have a clue about what's going on, but the majority are in la-la land.

It's comedic gold and well worth a look.

And for all the WB lurkers... no you wouldn't get band one for Smith "if he was a FA" because he is coming to us for less (on the books less) because as you all know... we have been paying him under the table for 2 years via a third party lol.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

id much prefer to keep Dekoning but if we can get a good deal for him I wouldn’t be too concerned as long as we can turn it into some quality players.
It’s probably not the best time to trade him though he’s been poor for two years. And a real weakness in him has been unearthed which is his competitiveness and contest work.
On the other hand he’s really shown his versatility with some scintillating plays in the ruck. A team us or another could really work with him from now to make him work in any area of the ground. That’s appealing to many clubs but it does strike me as strange that the dogs would be trying to get another 200cm player.

I don't think we'd be able to cover his loss for the year next year. The one year of his contract remaining is worth more than any picks we'd land.

 

[Klink]

Pies and Dee's making a play for Ollie Lord according to Josh Gabelich

On SM-A526B using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[iameviljez]

Ok so on that logic ollie dempsey, who was ooc in 2023 in his last year on the rookie list, became a dfa and under the fa for life rules is now always an unrestricted free agent when ooc?

Unsure.

Someone else posted the rookie rules earlier, worth looking up.