Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 2

[cats_09]

Ask and we'll try our best to assist - so here's 2024 Provisional AFL Draft Order

As normal, would like to acknowledge & thank Lore for creating this, keeping it up to date and making it available for all users on BF to use and keep track of the picks ahead of the upcoming draft





I'll also sticky this post to ensure it's easily accessible for discussion of our hypothetical trader


Also,

2024 Free Agency Period​

The AFL introduced free agency at the end of the 2012 season, giving players another vehicle where they can transfer from one club to another. Free agency is a common form of player movement in major football and sporting codes around the world.

Free Agency Opens: Friday October 4 at 9.00am
Free Agency Closes: Friday October 11 at 5.00pm

Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period​

Trade Period Opens: Monday October 7 at 9.00am
Trade Period Closes: Wednesday October 16 at 7.30pm

 

[FootyLad0]

Gee Class Loco, Jumping Jack, any others here with mates at the club... Ask them what Harley Reid was saying to some of our guys on the field about how shit it is at the Eagles when we played them a few weeks back

Out in the open for all to hear, he DGAF. Our boys had a good laugh at it and joked for him to come play at KP to fit in with the blonde headband crew.

Not saying he's coming here, but it sure as shit doesn't sound like he'll be there when he's ooc. Freaking hilarious.

The Cult of the Headband is a real thing?!?

Holy shit i knew it LOL

 

[Footy Smarts]

That was my point, we are losing a lot of depth, if guys go down in the top side who are we replacing them with.

Professional clubs are a squad, not just the 23 picked every week.

Start with the prelim team. Nobody from that team is leaving by the sounds of it.

Then you've got Smith, SDK, Guthrie and O'Connor as proven AFL level players. Possibly Jack Martin if he comes too.

On top of that Clark, Clohesy, Conway, O'Sullivan and Knevitt all played this year and will be a year older next year.

So that's 27-28 with AFL finals experience and 5 developing kids with AFL experience. That's more experience than we started this year with and doesn't look like a team crying out for more depth.

 

[FootyLad0]

Start with the prelim team. Nobody from that team is leaving by the sounds of it.

Then you've got Smith, SDK, Guthrie and O'Connor as proven AFL level players. Possibly Jack Martin if he comes too.

On top of that Clark, Clohesy, Conway, O'Sullivan and Knevitt all played this year and will be a year older next year.

So that's 27-28 with AFL finals experience and 5 developing kids with AFL experience. That's more experience than we started this year with and doesn't look like a team crying out for more depth.

So you reckon going forward add Smith and Martin and leave the rest of the additions up to late picks, Rookie Draft and Cat B?

Good to hear your point of view and backed up reasons.

Another question!
Who is your best 23 for 2025 assuming we get Baz/Martin and everyone is healthy?

 

[year of the cat]

So you reckon going forward add Smith and Martin and leave the rest of the additions up to late picks, Rookie Draft and Cat B?

Good to hear your point of view and backed up reasons.

Another question!
Who is your best 23 for 2025 assuming we get Baz/Martin and everyone is healthy?

I’d assume we will still retain our second round pick this year which is still in a part of the draft with some handy players.

Otherwise I think Smith and Martin may be it as far as trades/DFA.

I think we’ll look to draft a couple of players from the VFL. Jack Henderson has been mentioned as one.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Seems I needed to be clearer with my messaging here. We do sensible deals, don't demand massive overs, and pay more than reasonably for the players we pick up. Meaning that clubs know we'll pay up for players (and reasonably release players) and therefore they don't have to set up (or put up with) frankly silly negotiating positions to deal with us.

And two top-10 picks for SDK (with just one year left to run on his deal) is nothing other than a silly negotiating position.

It's not silly because key calls are the scarcest commodity in the league. Sdk won't get traded anyway so it's academic.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I’d assume we will still retain our second round pick this year which is still in a part of the draft with some handy players.

Otherwise I think Smith and Martin may be it as far as trades/DFA.

I think we’ll look to draft a couple of players from the VFL. Jack Henderson has been mentioned as one.

I think our r2 will go in the smith deal (we might get a r3 back like the Dunkley deal). Will get some late picks (hopefully incl Henderson or bice) and a few rookies.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Apparently contracted till 2026. I imagine Freo would be more than happy to get rid of his contract. Erasmus was clearly better in the WAFL as a 20 year old and he looked well off the pace the little bit of AFL he played.

I genuinely don't see how Brodie is going to offer more than Hardie or Parfitt did this year. Clark and Clohesy showed enough to think it's much more worthwhile giving them game time over a struggling mature aged player.

He is different type of player to Parfitt, closer to comparison to Hardie but imo Hardie's limiting factor is he didn't have any stand out attribute. I think Brodie has the benefit of being there doing that, though we're looking back to 2022 for when he did

I wouldn't pay much to get him but if Freo want him gone and all it costs is salary then I'd be worth having the conversation. Depends how bad the contract really is

Brodie doesn't have the tank for afl same as constable. I'd much rather get Kennedy if the point is to chase a proper big bodied inside mid.

 

[Footy Smarts]

So you reckon going forward add Smith and Martin and leave the rest of the additions up to late picks, Rookie Draft and Cat B?

Good to hear your point of view and backed up reasons.

Another question!
Who is your best 23 for 2025 assuming we get Baz/Martin and everyone is healthy?

Best 23 is impossible to say right now. It depends so much on how players improve and whether any draftees do well. Humphries and Mannagh weren't even on our list at this point last year.

But fingers crossed Guthrie gets back fit and close to his best. Even if that's in the backline rather than midfield it would be a huge improvement.

And hopefully a few of the younger guys like SDK, Mullin, Clark, Bruhn, O Henry etc who have shown talent can explode like Holmes and Dempsey did this year. I'd be disappointed if limited older guys like Bews and Stanley are best 22 next year.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Ok Cats fans lets get back to Trade/Draft talk instead of our young Irish heartthrob.....

Scotty made reference to many Footies being "in the air" so to speak.

Outside of the obvious Bailey Smith and Jack Martin links.

Who are we thinking he was referring to?
Is "Mystery Mid" 2: Electric Boogaloo on the cards?
calder_daddy is usually ITK on the Mystery Mid. I'm sure cats_09 would agree its better to get some discussion going actually related to the thread.

Reckon "The Cold Cut" Deven Robertson would be a good shout.
Can't get a look in at the Lions, stayed when he probably shouldn't have and is about to get pushed out by Levi Ashcroft and young Lions academy kid Marshall. Gives us a former 1st round pick midfielder who can win footy.

Thoughts? Jumping Jack, Kobe Gryant, Warhorse, CatToTheFuture, Catman catempire

I'd rather conor stone than Robertson if we are going down that fringe player in a strong side type of route.

 

[year of the cat]

I think our r2 will go in the smith deal (we might get a r3 back like the Dunkley deal). Will get some late picks (hopefully incl Henderson or bice) and a few rookies.

I think we are more likely to offer a F2. We won’t want to trade completely out of this draft.

 

[Lana]

Brodie doesn't have the tank for afl same as constable. I'd much rather get Kennedy if the point is to chase a proper big bodied inside mid.

I think that matters less in how we deal with our inside rotations,

 

[00VicWard001]

Robertson has done nothing but is rated because he won the Larke medal.

Hopefully Jhye Clark doesn’t fall into the same basket.

And because of his jumper being ripped off...

 

[Footy Smarts]

Robertson has done nothing but is rated because he won the Larke medal.

Hopefully Jhye Clark doesn’t fall into the same basket.

The hope with Clark is at least he's shown some elite traits with his defensive work and some of his handballing.

It doesn't mean he'll be a gun or even a really good player but I've never seen Robertson look elite at anything. And players that are just ok at everything never make the step up to AFL level.

 

[Geminicatz01]

 

[bulletproof]

The chances of Geelong bringing in a slowish, high possession, low impact player are almost zero.

We place no value on these type of players and have not for years.

The only thing that will improve our midfield is elite talent.

Rotating more mediocre players through there will make absolutely no difference.

Smith is a good add, and we will back Bruhn, Holmes, Dempsey, SDK/Conway to be a little better. And hope for something from Clark, Knevitt or Mullin.

 

[ShaunWDT]

That was a good game. But it's also only 1 game. TBF he's also only kicked 16 goals in 14 SANFL games the last 2 years. So there's also an argument that he hasn't even really performed that well at the second tier. I'm not writing him off, but I can see why others aren't super enthused when his seconds form is similar to Phoenix Foster who we just delisted.

Their SANFL side are absolutely dog shit its pretty hard to kick goals when you're getting pumped

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Up The Mighty POLDERS!!!

 

[numbwombat]

Some merit to looking at Martin, and retaining guys like Duncan and Bews, but a bit of underrating the value in some unknown kid at pick 82 or in the rookie draft.

In our prelim team, we had Atkins, J Henry, Zuthrie, Close, & Dempsey all taken as rookies. All those guys will play 100 games, all except Atkins are on track IMO to play 200 (Dempsey you could argue).

We have drafted 14 rookies in the past 8 drafts (12 unknowns plus Crameri & Henderson) so going at ~40% (5 out of 12) for turning non-AFL player rookie picks into good 100+ gamers since we got Henry & Guthrie in 2016. Not convinced that’s achievable long-term but at minimum 20% should be.

List churn is valuable. Three currencies in list management: draft picks, salary cap, list spots.

 

[Hinkley29]

Every DFA is a free hit when you think about it.

And I'm all for Stewart spending more time in the midfield but Martin ain't no replacement IMO.

There are no free hits.

List spots and salary cap are valuable commodities and definitely not free.

 

[ShaunWDT]

Goodness me the dick measuring insistence on being right is seriously pathetic, go outside and talk to an actual human of the opposite sex or feed the ducks down at the park or something you losers

Its been an issue with this board for years, too many egos on here that cant ever accept anyone might ever disagree with them without having a sook, real man child behaviour and its starting to piss me and many others off.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

I'd rather conor stone than Robertson if we are going down that fringe player in a strong side type of route.

Neither really get me moist in the loins TBH.
Is there an option C or D??

 

[Gee Class Loco]

I'd rather conor stone than Robertson if we are going down that fringe player in a strong side type of route.

4me Carlton's Kennedy offers 3x than these two if i can choose.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Neither really get me moist in the loins TBH.
Is there an option C or D??

Not many options this year
But I like stone he has good footy IQ and uses it well. I think Robertson is more limited whereas I think stone could become a very decent player in a good system.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Some merit to looking at Martin, and retaining guys like Duncan and Bews, but a bit of underrating the value in some unknown kid at pick 82 or in the rookie draft.

In our prelim team, we had Atkins, J Henry, Zuthrie, Close, & Dempsey all taken as rookies. All those guys will play 100 games, all except Atkins are on track IMO to play 200 (Dempsey you could argue).

We have drafted 14 rookies in the past 8 drafts (12 unknowns plus Crameri & Henderson) so going at ~40% (5 out of 12) for turning non-AFL player rookie picks into good 100+ gamers since we got Henry & Guthrie in 2016. Not convinced that’s achievable long-term but at minimum 20% should be.

List churn is valuable. Three currencies in list management: draft picks, salary cap, list spots.

Agreed. But for some reason the Club sees something in the acquisition of JM that we don't.
A bit like adding those two skinny kids ZGuthrie and Close many years ago.
Both were WTF picks if my memory serves me well.
FWIW adding JM eliminates using a pick.
But the salary and why the list spot is something only the club really knows.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Not many options this year
But I like stone he has good footy IQ and uses it well. I think Robertson is more limited whereas I think stone could become a very decent player in a good system.

Thats why missing out on Davies was a kick in the nuts 4me.