Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 3

[cats_09]

Here's 2024 Provisional AFL Draft Order

Cheers to Lore for their hard work in setting this up, and making it available for all users on BF to use and keep track of the picks ahead of the upcoming draft - and please practice patience grasshoppers if it's not updated in the immediate aftermath of completed trade





I'll also sticky this post to ensure it's easily accessible for discussion of our hypothetical trader


Also,

2024 Draft and Trade Period Key Dates​

Oct 17 to Nov 8: Pick swap window
Nov 1 to Nov 8: Delisted free agency period
Nov 20-21: Telstra AFL Draft
Nov 22: Telstra Pre-Season Draft and Rookie Draft

 

[year of the cat]

Hotton gives me Billie Smedts vibes

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I’m not sure why? Nothing like him as a player.

 

[RegHickeyStand]

That would be a foolish trade. The reason that Geelong is the most successful club in the AFL over the last 20 years is because they have the best culture not necessarily the best players. In AFL a generational talent like Reid is still only one player and that will never overcome the synergies of 22 committed team players who are thriving in a growth environment. Geelong quite deliberately draft players of great character and are very loyal to them. If you start trading talented players of great character like Humphries who want to be at the club, then that will create a small crack in your elite culture that eventually becomes a chasm and before you know it you will be back in the pack with the other mundane clubs

Well said. Makes me sick seeing how much hero worshipping, as opposed to common sense and club-supporting goes on here at times. No, an individual player doesn’t make that much difference we have to wreck the team to get him in.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

G'day boys.
Sorry haven't been an active participant for a bit. I've been laid up for a week or so.
Yesterday... My Dog walker suggested I look at multi positional players.. as that is where we are headed if all falls into place.
A few names talked about.
The Haileybury Captain. "Two dads".
Glenelg's Tall bloke Ramm.
WA On-baller Uruquart?
Shepparton boy. Plays defence/mid. ?? Another Ollie??
Rantall?? W'bool kid, his brother played at Pies... I think??
He did say losing our WA scout has hurt a little. But we still have enough intel to suggest we are going to shop there again.
And remember speed kills... but so do foot skills.
Last thing we talked about was who we are targeting next year rather than the list that will be after draft day.
BS everyone knew about but not early on.
I have spoken about Butters.
Let's hope Ken is gone at years end and so are the boys from Alberton which will enhance our chances 10x fold.
He suggests we are in it up 2 our necks with a few blokes that are not necessary OOC.
More walking needed this week me thinks.
Fingers crossed we can get into the 2nd round with a few picks.
Yeah, a Long shot i know but even a long shot has won 2 of the last 10 Melbourne cups.
Cheers Boys.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Hotton gives me Billie Smedts vibes

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Ahhh... Good old Billie Smedts.
Isn't This where the Falcon Blindfold took over and we whiffed on the kid from Redan.
Isaac Smith? who we got in the end... But if what coulda shoulda ahhhh Fook it. I hate those games.

 

[Turbocat]

Yeah I agree anyone like Herbert is a rookie or ssp. Davidson and hoare have enough interest to go ND.
Boyd-who I was suggesting earlier in the year we target for the MSD, and Blakiston are essentially the same age so I doubt the saints take both but they probably want one. Would we take the other?

Cant say I know either players game well enough… but would Boyds height be an issue?

 

[Gunf]

I have said it a few times but the only way i am trading into this draft with futures is with a future second or a future second + 45

Do not want to touch our FF for what would be likely around 30 or early 20s if we use FF + 45

 

[strauchnyy]

Anyone able to get passed the HS paywall for the top 60 rankings?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Just went back and had a look at Nicholls… moves well and has a nice pair of hands…but I think Josh Walker was a better kick than him. The ball drop is a football version of Ipecac syrup ..Id think he would have to improve his kicking out of sight to make it as a a forward.. probably ends up as a intercepting backman..

Part of me wants us to draft him so that I can finally be truthful when yelling "I could kick better than that" at a player

 

[Turbocat]

G'day boys.
Sorry haven't been an active participant for a bit. I've been laid up for a week or so.
Yesterday... My Dog walker suggested I look at multi positional players.. as that is where we are headed if all falls into place.
A few names talked about.
The Haileybury Captain. "Two dads".
Glenelg's Tall bloke Ramm.
WA On-baller Uruquart?
Shepparton boy. Plays defence/mid. ?? Another Ollie??
Rantall?? W'bool kid, his brother played at Pies... I think??
He did say losing our WA scout has hurt a little. But we still have enough intel to suggest we are going to shop there again.
And remember speed kills... but so do foot skills.
Last thing we talked about was who we are targeting next year rather than the list that will be after draft day.
BS everyone knew about but not early on.
I have spoken about Butters.
Let's hope Ken is gone at years end and so are the boys from Alberton which will enhance our chances 10x fold.
He suggests we are in it up 2 our necks with a few blokes that are not necessary OOC.
More walking needed this week me thinks.
Fingers crossed we can get into the 2nd round with a few picks.
Yeah, a Long shot i know but even a long shot has won 2 of the last 10 Melbourne cups.
Cheers Boys.

Generally ..I hope we stay away from contracted guys. The more desirable the player …the less leverage we have and the cost will be higher. I find it frustrating that some of these players that like back themselves into a corner with long term contracts then expect to get traded ….



Liked LU in the champs … can run quick and long and gets a lot of the ball …. but he is a bit of a Siketa Meat by foot.

 

[Turbocat]

Part of me wants us to draft him so that I can finally be truthful when yelling "I could kick better than that" at a player

I like how Armstrong has said that his kicking was something he has worked at ..and is a copy of his coach Matty Lloyd..

 

[cats_09]

Anyone able to get passed the HS paywall for the top 60 rankings?

Only for 1 or 2 paragraphs - is there any player in particular you'd like to read about?

Posting of the full article isn't permitted

Here's the link for those who want to test options like 12ft Ladder - https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...t/news-story/4f0863aa22dd67a0b4cf872b6526eb3c

 

[cats_09]

 

[dazbroncos]

Well that never fits our MO….

Not

Go Catters

 

[My Tilly]

That would be a foolish trade. The reason that Geelong is the most successful club in the AFL over the last 20 years is because they have the best culture not necessarily the best players. In AFL a generational talent like Reid is still only one player and that will never overcome the synergies of 22 committed team players who are thriving in a growth environment. Geelong quite deliberately draft players of great character and are very loyal to them. If you start trading talented players of great character like Humphries who want to be at the club, then that will create a small crack in your elite culture that eventually becomes a chasm and before you know it you will be back in the pack with the other mundane clubs

Very good points.

I'm looking at it from a realistic perspective of being able to bring in a player of Reid's magnitude. The fact Lawson has family back in WA helps in this scenario.

Geelong won't be able to win anymore premierships without a superstar midfielder (or two). We will still compete and be thereabouts but it's the brutal fact of this sport.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Rookie plz

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

I know mine will not be a common view but I think the ceiling on Humphries could be higher than Reid. Humphries could reach the level of Andrew McLeod. My concern with Reid is that he is going to spend the next 2 years developing amongst a poor list and may develop some poor football habits that could then take a couple of years to iron out when he goes to a side with a good list around him.

Agree on Lawson , he's a gem.
Reid will be an interesting watch this season , will he put in a big preseason and get himself AFL ready or rest on his laurels?
His highlight reel was impressive but he goes missing for large periods so consistency needs to lift.
Will be interesting which version of Harley turns up in 2025.......

 

[My Tilly]

Agree on Lawson , he's a gem.
Reid will be an interesting watch this season , will he put in a big preseason and get himself AFL ready or rest on his laurels?
His highlight reel was impressive but he goes missing for large periods so consistency needs to lift.
Will be interesting which version of Harley turns up in 2025.......

Averaged 18 disposals (10 contested), 5 clearances & 0.5 goals in his first season while playing in a garbage side.

He's going alright.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Rookie plz

Seconded.

Worst case he's a great person to have around the club and he helps the development in the VFL team.

Best case is he's a gem for 3-4 years.

 

[Oisin_the_Goat]

Averaged 18 disposals (10 contested), 5 clearances & 0.5 goals in his first season while playing in a garbage side.

He's going alright.

Yeah and you'd probably call him more a high impact midfielder rather than high possession.

 

[CatRiot]

Could 45+F3 get us below P30 on the night in a live trade?

 

[Tony Barber]

I'm just going to stick this here.
Did we trade out David the cat? Where is he?

 

[FishGutz]

Ok, so final bits of news I’ve got regarding the draft:

We are still knee deep in trading our 2025 F1 for Hotton or Dodson. It’s been confirmed Dodson is a genuine target. The logic is he might be able to come on faster than the other two rucks on our list and play more of a Blicavs role than a lumbering Conway. But my source is still convinced Hotton is the target if he’s there.

Jaques definitely in our sights. As is Davidson. Both could have an immediate impact next year according to recruiters at the club.

Outside of them he said Ivisic, Bice, Unwin. There are more names and bids etc but they’re the main ones he spoke about.

I’m pretty excited with the list of names to be honest. Feels like everyone is somewhat confused with how it will play out though. And a few nervous clubs because everyone’s rankings are different this year.

Irrelevant to Geelong but the major one starts at pick 2. North keeping their pick very hush on the premise they want a good return if they trade back. Crows look likely to take Draper but indicating they want Langford. Melbourne really want Langford or Jagga badly. It’s pretty fun for the draft’s top fifteen not to be just mapped out for us as it has been in previous seasons.


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[Oisin_the_Goat]

Could 45+F3 get us below P30 on the night in a live trade?

Doubt it

 

[Reg Hickey]

I know mine will not be a common view but I think the ceiling on Humphries could be higher than Reid. Humphries could reach the level of Andrew McLeod. My concern with Reid is that he is going to spend the next 2 years developing amongst a poor list and may develop some poor football habits that could then take a couple of years to iron out when he goes to a side with a good list around him.

I love Humphries, but honestly, that is the most wishful of wishful thinking. Even through cat-coloured glasses.

Nobody really knows what will happen, but the likely best case for Humphries is a really solid 250 game player who might score an AA blazer along the way, while the likely best case for Reid is the Gaz / Dusty / Judd bracket. Not comparable.

 

[year of the cat]

Could 45+F3 get us below P30 on the night in a live trade?

No chance.