Analysis Grundy, Cox and Cameron Discussion

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Watch Davis play. Since the injuries he's become a great "pointer" (like Rance and Maxy were) GWS only play him on lumbering CHF's nowadays cos they know he's slow as treacle. He plays on nous and positioning. Great leader perhaps but a mobile forward cuts him up. He needs a lot of help from Shawy and the other GWS intercept players these days.
When he was at the Crows (pre-injury) he WAS a gun. Nowadays he's just a step ahead of Benny Reid.

Maxy was a Huge Reason why we won the 2010 Flag
 

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He certainly was Dave, but as he got older and slower he relied a lot on "chop outs" from the team mates around him.

Guess that happens to lot of Players when they get Older
 
Watch Davis play. Since the injuries he's become a great "pointer" (like Rance and Maxy were) GWS only play him on lumbering CHF's nowadays cos they know he's slow as treacle. He plays on nous and positioning. Great leader perhaps but a mobile forward cuts him up. He needs a lot of help from Shawy and the other GWS intercept players these days.
When he was at the Crows (pre-injury) he WAS a gun. Nowadays he's just a step ahead of Benny Reid.

No he's not the flash nor are the likes of McGovern for example, they don't need to be - they position themselves to their advantage.
 
Last night he was moved to full forward because he was soundly beaten in the ruck, I still don’t think this option is off the table. If he’s having no impact in the ruck, then give him a run at CHF.
 
Last night he was moved to full forward because he was soundly beaten in the ruck, I still don’t think this option is off the table. If he’s having no impact in the ruck, then give him a run at CHF.
Absolute myth he was beaten in the ruck. See how pro active the WCE mids are they back Nic Nat to win the tap and are prepared to back themselves in.

The Collingwood mids stand their flat footed and reactionary.

Not disputing that Nic Nat played well but that doesn’t mean Grundy was bad by any stretch.
 
Can't see that happening. These days you want a agile, leading CHF, this isn't in Grundy's MO. He definitely could be plonked in the goal square for 5 minute bursts, but nothing more than that.

Agree. Grundy can play bit of FF not CHF
 

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Absolute myth he was beaten in the ruck. See how pro active the WCE mids are they back Nic Nat to win the tap and are prepared to back themselves in.

The Collingwood mids stand their flat footed and reactionary.

Not disputing that Nic Nat played well but that doesn’t mean Grundy was bad by any stretch.

Our midfield fails to take advantage of Grundys tap work most weeks and I think teams are more proactive in planning around Grundys dominance and how to negate his influence. However, Grundy was woeful yesterday. 10 touches, only 2 marks and some of the most average pressure work I've seen him produce. Maybe he's carrying something and that impacted his performance, but he and the midfield were smoked.
 
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Our midfield fails to take advantage of Grundys tap work most weeks and I think teams are more proactive in planning around Grundys dominance and how to negate his influence. However, Grundy was woeful yesterday. 10 touches, only 2 marks and some of the most average pressure work I've seen him produce. Maybe he's carrying something and that impacted his performance, but he and the midfield were smoked.
Can’t agree with that Grundy gets most of his footy at the contest and with the ease West Coast cleared the ball he was never going to have a great game. For all Nic Nats supposed dominance he had 8 disposals and 24 hit outs opposed to Grundy’s 10 disposals and 24 hit outs.
 
Can’t agree with that Grundy gets most of his footy at the contest and with the ease West Coast cleared the ball he was never going to have a great game. For all Nic Nats supposed dominance he had 8 disposals and 24 hit outs opposed to Grundy’s 10 disposals and 24 hit outs.

There Midfield Destroyed ours though we had a weak midfield
 
Can’t agree with that Grundy gets most of his footy at the contest and with the ease West Coast cleared the ball he was never going to have a great game. For all Nic Nats supposed dominance he had 8 disposals and 24 hit outs opposed to Grundy’s 10 disposals and 24 hit outs.
20 out of 24 Nic Nat hitouts were put down the Eagles throats. Grundy may have had one out of his 24. This is a continual problem for Grundy. Rarely does he give us 1st use.
 
Physically I think Grundy is capable of playing the position but he has to develop the smarts for it and I get the impressions he has no interest in doing so, he sees himself as a ruck only. I could be wrong but that’s my impression of Grundy at least.
 
The fact they had a dominant mid field isn’t a reflection on Grundy
Actually yesterday it was. Grundy had absolutely no answer for Naitanui's leap. It was abundantly obvious he wasn't and couldn't play his regular game in the centre square. He was scarcely competitive in the ruck and he gave our midfielders pretty average service when he did win the ruck. On the other hand, Naitanui gave West Coast prime service.

He wasn't even really capable of beating Allen all that much while Nic was off the ground. He's been run into the ground with what Collingwood expect him to shoulder but he was a poor, tired man yesterday.
 
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