jezzatigerbrent
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Warnock is perpetually injured & cannot carry/develop muscle..think u'd do better with a big-bodied ruck like Jamar,West..or Zac Clark who has genuine pace
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GWS Uncontracted and Free Agency Targets 2012
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That's pretty much how I see it as well now.
At most I could see us getting Scott Lycett from west coast
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@neilcordy reports GWS out of race for Travis Cloke.
Not convinced they were ever really in. Keeping cap space for player retention.
Good result in my mind - save the money to retain players as mentioned, plus allow Patton, Cameron and Folau to own the forward line for the future.
@neilcordy reports GWS out of race for Travis Cloke.
Not convinced they were ever really in. Keeping cap space for player retention.
Good result in my mind - save the money to retain players as mentioned, plus allow Patton, Cameron and Folau to own the forward line for the future.
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I agree Scully2Folau. The money would be better spent retaining the talent GWS already has.
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Just an article confirming what we already know:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/mor...for-travis-cloke/story-e6frf9jf-1226358196453
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/mor...for-travis-cloke/story-e6frf9jf-1226358196453
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I would have liked Cloke to take pressure (both defensive and mental) off Cameron, Folau and Patton but I can understand why they didn't pursue hm given the horse race for him at the moment.
I do find it hilarious that everyone's offering contracts to Cloke's manager with monetary figures included and no comments are made, yet apparently we were "breaking the rules" according to many last year for doing exactly the same thing with our uncontracted players.
I do find it hilarious that everyone's offering contracts to Cloke's manager with monetary figures included and no comments are made, yet apparently we were "breaking the rules" according to many last year for doing exactly the same thing with our uncontracted players.
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Great news. He has talent. But it would be pretty easy to be a good forward with one of the best midfields of all time giving you the ball. Be a waste on a huge contract.
I still think we need help at forward though.
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I agree that we could do with a bit of help in the forwardline, so what I would like to see as a short term solution would be to get Barry Hall on a 2 year, 20 game contract that would give us the band aid solution we need until Cameron and Patton are fully up and running.
But I do expect us to pick up 4 players to replace our guys moving into coaching so it will be interesting to see who we pick up.
But I do expect us to pick up 4 players to replace our guys moving into coaching so it will be interesting to see who we pick up.
The bloke we hired to do just that kicked two goals against Carlton, before suffering a season-ending injury.
Unlike Hall, we can have him back for minimum wage, and a promise to being the GWS-funded captain-coach of our Irish affiliate side.
Satanta o'hAilpin can and should be re-signed.
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You know, the interesting thing about following all the players on Twitter is how happy Setanta seems to be and how much the players like him. I wonder if he was like that at Carlton? He seems very settled and respected in the squad, probably something that is good for his playing.
Was he on a 1 year contract. I would give him another year to prove himself when healthy.
Barry Hall!? 2 years!? Maybe as a coach only as he is all only practice what I preach but don't do as I do (to mix some metaphors).
Maybe we need a list of players considering retirement? Or retired last year?
You know, the interesting thing about following all the players on Twitter is how happy Setanta seems to be and how much the players like him. I wonder if he was like that at Carlton? He seems very settled and respected in the squad, probably something that is good for his playing.
Was he on a 1 year contract. I would give him another year to prove himself when healthy.
Barry Hall!? 2 years!? Maybe as a coach only as he is all only practice what I preach but don't do as I do (to mix some metaphors).
Maybe we need a list of players considering retirement? Or retired last year?
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Yes Setanta was only on a 1 year contract, I would like us to offer him another year but he will be 30 next year and and acl isn't the easiest injury to get over. But if he shows a great attitude in rehap and therefore demonstrating good off field leadership then im all for an extension.
On Barry Hall it will be interesting to see how he goes in his country footy comeback as I hear a couple of clubs are taking a bit of interest in how he goes.
On Barry Hall it will be interesting to see how he goes in his country footy comeback as I hear a couple of clubs are taking a bit of interest in how he goes.
On minimum wage, he's definitely worth a list slot.
It also shows a commendable culture of loyalty - it reassures players that the club will stand by them if they get hurt, as long as they work on their rehab and so on.
As to being 30, Im not particularly worried about that for a big man.
It also shows a commendable culture of loyalty - it reassures players that the club will stand by them if they get hurt, as long as they work on their rehab and so on.
As to being 30, Im not particularly worried about that for a big man.
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Also on loyalty have to say its good that we are in the position that we don't have to delist any players and still be able to bring in another 10 players if we want.
Setanta MUST be resigned, not only would it show a really positive aspect of club culture to prospective players, he really does have something to offer the team both on and off the field. Would much sooner sign him to a 2 year contract than Hall.
GWS recruited well for this year, but next year, when all those senior blokes retire, you will need some leadership. Keep yr young guns, but look for a couple of 26 to 28 yo pro's who can take control of a game. Maybe one at each end of the park, but moreso in the forward line
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I actually dont agree. - I think they should replace the one-last-season Geriatrics With Scully with another batch of Geriatrics With Scully.
My logic is that 26-28 year olds with the ability to control the game are very expensive, because lots of clubs want them - we're talking the likes of Clark and Cloke.
Therefore, we re-sign Setanta as the extra big, and look for another Power and another MacDonald - long term professionals, eased out of their old club.
I wouldnt be amazed to see Bevan be called up from the WAFL, for example.
I actually dont agree. - I think they should replace the one-last-season Geriatrics With Scully with another batch of Geriatrics With Scully.
My logic is that 26-28 year olds with the ability to control the game are very expensive, because lots of clubs want them - we're talking the likes of Clark and Cloke.
Therefore, we re-sign Setanta as the extra big, and look for another Power and another MacDonald - long term professionals, eased out of their old club.
I wouldnt be amazed to see Bevan be called up from the WAFL, for example.
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Interesting thing in the article is we are after more 2nd tier players so rather then use the extra 1.5mil we have to play with on one player we are more likely to chase 3-4 solid players
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...-to-keep-gilbert/story-fnca0u4y-1226363914274
And along the lines of going after 2nd tier players we still showing some interest in Warnock but doubt we doing this with a few different ruckman
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl...rms-gws-interest/story-e6frf3e3-1226364099838
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...-to-keep-gilbert/story-fnca0u4y-1226363914274
And along the lines of going after 2nd tier players we still showing some interest in Warnock but doubt we doing this with a few different ruckman
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl...rms-gws-interest/story-e6frf3e3-1226364099838
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We can't have a situation where all 4 oldies retire in one hit. Keeping two on the playing list worthwhile, hopefully adding one or two other mature players in the off-season to keep the team ticking along and ward off the second year blues.
Agree with others that it would be good to retain Setanta for a couple more years.
Agree with others that it would be good to retain Setanta for a couple more years.
Surely GWS won't be wasting their time on driblers like Gilbert who'd add absolutely nothing to their list.
Ben Reid however is out of contract and would be a great pick up. Every extra cent Cloke manages to scrounge out of Collingwood is coming directly from Reid's next contract and Beams has probably also jumped him in the contract pecking order in the last few weeks. He'd have to atleast be tempted by what GWS could offer, twice as many years four times as much money.
Another player that would nicely complement the giants list is Tom Bellchambers, not sure if he's out of contract or not but as i expect in a few years Patty Ryder to be Essendons number one ruckman with Daniher as a KPF and back up, i'm not sure if long term there is a spot for him. Bellchambers say he sees himself as a number one ruckmen but was dropped again last week for Hille. Could potentially be what the bombers have to lose if they are serious about getting Josh Caddy.
Ben Reid however is out of contract and would be a great pick up. Every extra cent Cloke manages to scrounge out of Collingwood is coming directly from Reid's next contract and Beams has probably also jumped him in the contract pecking order in the last few weeks. He'd have to atleast be tempted by what GWS could offer, twice as many years four times as much money.
Another player that would nicely complement the giants list is Tom Bellchambers, not sure if he's out of contract or not but as i expect in a few years Patty Ryder to be Essendons number one ruckman with Daniher as a KPF and back up, i'm not sure if long term there is a spot for him. Bellchambers say he sees himself as a number one ruckmen but was dropped again last week for Hille. Could potentially be what the bombers have to lose if they are serious about getting Josh Caddy.
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Ben Reid's name comes up often in these sorts of discussions - he would be a fantastic addition to GWS.
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Not the worst pick up. I wouldn't be suprised if gws rookie list a couple of players in their mid 20's with afl experience, to add some depth in case of injuries, and provide some on field leadership to their struggling reserves team.
Unfortuantely for the Hawks i see them getting much, if anything, in return.
