List Mgmt. Hawk's List Management 2023

[FB19]

Apologies, the rules for NGA have changed and I assumed we could match under pick 40. Otherwise what is the point?

You have to separate the dual purposes of academies. The academy system as a development pathway for football skills and knowledge, preparation for the rigours of AFL etc is critical and why so many young kids can make an impact early. As a drafting mechanism it’s all over the place. One not perfect solution but better than the AFLs bullshit would be to vary the discount based on where the bid comes so you have to pay more the higher up the player is selected. Or radically - add a points premium on a similar sliding scale so you pay more than the pick - your advantage is the existing relationship and priority access. Not perfect but better than the arbitrary pick 40 nonsense but the AFL don’t care they just pull new rules off a raffle wheel and laugh in piles of cash that we all enable.

 

[Topiary]

With brocky going I hope we’re in the ear of culley and Maric, would be nice to get one back on them. Don’t think culley has re-signed yet has he? Could just be a player swap

A distinct possibility.

 

[Billyc]

Brockman situation is disappointing but despite some posts around here, it has been pretty obviously headed that way for a while. We have no real bargaining power if he chooses West Coast but hopefully we can get something of value. The Liam Henry situation is a relevant watch if he chooses Freo.

 

[lethalselbow]

With brocky going I hope we’re in the ear of culley and Maric, would be nice to get one back on them. Don’t think culley has re-signed yet has he? Could just be a player swap

Has Maric played a game in 2023?

 

[moginie]

Has Maric played a game in 2023?

It might be a shock to you, but according to afltables he's played nine.

 

[lethalselbow]

It might be a shock to you, but according to afltables he's played nine.

Complete shock. Was thinking he may have got one game, at best. Good for him.

 

[Burtman]

Complete shock. Was thinking he may have got one game, at best. Good for him.

It was west coast mate, my two year old would’ve got a run if he was on their list

 

[WWSD]

Delist
Long
Greene
Morris
Jeka
Morrison
Lynch (retired)

Trade
Koschitzke
Brockman
Frost

Re-sign
Serong
Ryan
Wingard

You’re looking at around 7-8 changes.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Delist
Long
Greene
Morris
Jeka
Morrison
Lynch (retired)

Trade
Koschitzke
Brockman
Frost

Re-sign
Serong
Ryan
Wingard

You’re looking at around 7-8 changes.

Kosi might scrape in for a 1 year contract. The rest look gone.

 

[Mercy Seat]

Delist
Long
Greene
Morris
Jeka
Morrison
Lynch (retired)

Trade
Koschitzke
Brockman
Frost

Re-sign
Serong
Ryan
Wingard

You’re looking at around 7-8 changes.

Morrison contracted for next year. Trade if he is to leave.

Sam singled out Long’s significant improvement at Box Hill this year on 3AW when discussing improvement of the list which suggests to me he has him staying.

 

[hfc70]

Kosi might scrape in for a 1 year contract. The rest look gone.

Happy to give Morrison 1 year (unless traded) but no way would I keep Kosi

 

[Roger Rogerson]

Kosi might scrape in for a 1 year contract. The rest look gone.

I've put a line thru him. He's not up to it. We've seen enough now.

 

[TylerDurden]

I've put a line thru him. He's not up to it. We've seen enough now.

I'm the same. Last 2 weeks have been putrid.

 

[H00t]

I'm the same. Last 2 weeks have been putrid.

Has shown he can’t play as the number 1 forward. As soon as Lewis isn’t there he struggles.

 

[Mercy Seat]

I've put a line thru him. He's not up to it. We've seen enough now.

I would agree but he’s really the only one we have who can play 30% ruck and the rest forward. The dual ruck experiment hasn’t worked so I really think this forward ruck combo is what Sam wants. Maybe that’s what he sees in Esava?

 

[Hawthorn23]

There is a role for Kosi to play in a better forward line structure, where he I think he can be a legitimate number 3 forward who pinch hits in the ruck. I don’t think it’s fair to judge him on games like today where he is being asked to do more than he can handle.

It just remains to be seen whether the club can hold a player like him and hope we can land a guy like Ben King

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Ben King

Age

24

Ht

202cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.5

4star

T

0.5

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

0.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

soon

 

[A Diakos]

We lost nothing with Irving Mosquito.

We lost nothing with Trent Stubbs.

If someone rates Tew Jiath higher than we do, I think we'll cope.

Yes

Buts that’s not what I said though

 

[Lickmesocks]

I'm the same. Last 2 weeks have been putrid.

Time will tell but Phillipou looks the goods as that lead up forward type. I know we were looking at him.

 

[RoughysMullet]

Delist
Long
Greene
Morris
Jeka
Morrison
Lynch (retired)

Trade
Koschitzke
Brockman
Frost

Re-sign
Serong
Ryan
Wingard

You’re looking at around 7-8 changes.

Long, Morrison and Kosi stay- Frost in contract aswell. Wingard might be gone.

 

[Rowie6]

Delist
Long
Greene
Morris
Jeka
Morrison
Lynch (retired)

Trade
Koschitzke
Brockman
Frost

Re-sign
Serong
Ryan
Wingard

You’re looking at around 7-8 changes.

We are in trouble if we resign Wingard after what he has given us minus 5-6 games!


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[Rowie6]

Happy to give Morrison 1 year (unless traded) but no way would I keep Kosi

Both are gone for mine !


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[Simon Crawshay]

The only reason I could see us resigning Wingard is that if Sam thought we are good of making finals in 2025 and he thinks Chad will be an X factor to push us over the line.

From what I saw today we are still a long way from competing for finals, we need players who can put their noses to the wheelstone during the home and away season to eke out enough wins to scrape into the 8.

 

[VandoHawk]

My personal take after watching a good chunk of the VFL/AFL games.

Ryan – sign for 1, trigger for another. Could be anything from A-grade to bust.
Jeka – delist. Talented but injury/attitude a problem.
Greene – delist. Fantastic VFL player, too many weaknesses at AFL level. Undersized KPF without elite leg-speed is an unfortunate combination.
Bramble – delist. Fast but lacks composure and defensive running.
Serong – sign for 1 or 2. Good VFL form, solid AFL games.
Morris – delist. Below average VFL performances and surpassed by Weddle, Seamus, BMac.
Brockman – likely traded.
O’Hara – Irish products take time. Sign unless we have another CatB.
Long – 50/50. Juggernaut mid at BH, played out of position at AFL. Does he have enough improvement?
Wingard – 50/50. Will be 31 by the time he returns. Previous injury concerns don't help his cause.
Koschitzke – 50/50. Decent games as third tall but hopeless as main tall. May be the last player signed depending on other acquisitions.

 

[The Chad and I]

Time will tell but Phillipou looks the goods as that lead up forward type. I know we were looking at him.

from the StKilda?
How will we manage that?

 

[Simon Crawshay]

Has shown he can’t play as the number 1 forward. As soon as Lewis isn’t there he struggles.

It’s weird in a way as being our number one forward when Lewis is out he should theoretically have a lot more ball directed his way and have more output but he just can’t handle being the main man at all.

Very hard to judge the worth of a forward who can only play that one specific role (3rd forward / ruck combo).

Unfortunately I get the feeling for Kossy these last two weeks may have stamped his papers in Sams eyes.