News Hawthorn AGM 2022

[TylerDurden]

The truly scary thing for mine is that we are currently witnessing a fairly restrained Kennett.
Just pause for a second to imagine him post the Club election should Nank and the JK penned ticket not get up.
Think about a Jeff sitting at home over the next couple years, potting incessantly our Clubs leadership, Club direction, Club activity, with his political activism and god complex on full un-leashed and pushing for a coup.

He reminds me so much of Trump.
No real love that doesn't include a mirror and a megaphone.
He could genuinely attempt to ruin the Club should he be sidelined, and there will be those - even from some of the voices on here - that will encourage and abide his madness.

He's very Trump at present. Let's hope he doesn't storm the Capitol if Nank doesn't get up.

 

[pattymalone00]

Saying that they want to turn hawthorn into a mens only club when James Merlino is wanting to help with dingley funding which will host aflw games and there training base in the future…. And Ed sill who has the box hill vflw program and box hill city oval literally hosted hawks aflw games is something…

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[TylerDurden]

Trump.

 

[Mercy Seat]

****ing clown.

This should hopefully be the impetus for those sitting on the fence to vote for the opposite of what this guy wants. Red flags everywhere.

 

[The Spirit of Cricket]

i felt like in his interview Gowers hardly talked about Jeff or Nank at all, only when Whateley bought it up

 

[pattymalone00]

******* clown.

This should hopefully be the impetus for those sitting on the fence to vote for the opposite of what this guy wants. Red flags everywhere.

Ed sill was on talking hawks and at about 24.00 really let loose on the current board using club communication to point the others as outsiders and how didn’t want to align with any group….

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Gowers is endorsing Liu.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Gowers is endorsing Liu.

Still not ideal to go from 2 women to 1 when most clubs are increasing representation at board level. Has Gowers mentioned how he plans to address this going forward if change candidates unseat Hudson and Pellizzer?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Still not ideal to go from 2 women to 1 when most clubs are increasing representation at board level. Has Gowers mentioned how he plans to address this going forward if change candidates unseat Hudson and Pellizzer?

Yeah, he addressed it in the Whately interview.

 

[Baz_hawk]

The more Kennett talks, the more comfortable I am with voting for Gowers. What an absolute slug of a human.

 

[suedehead]

At this point, can anyone possibly put their hand up and say they feel good about voting for Kennett's candidates?

Easiest voting decision ever.

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[Hawkk]

Ed sill was on talking hawks and at about 24.00 really let loose on the current board using club communication to point the others as outsiders and how didn’t want to align with any group….

This is a great interview - specifically engaged fan bases.

A fully engaged fan base will assist in chartering an exit from Tasmania, replace Tasmanian dollars with favourable commercial arrangements and stadium deals with the AFL. It will also help the club attract new talent.

It’s no surprise that Collingwood and West Coast have time after time accelerated their rebuilds and attracted mature recruits to the club.

If you look at HFC attendances and membership we peaked at #1 and #2 for club membership from 2009 to 2019 (and was top 4 in Victoria all the way back to 1997).

Our attendances also peaked at #3 in Victoria during the 2008 to 2019 period (and have now dipped to #5 in terms of active base).

Strategically Hawthorn with our generational support (from the 70s and 80s), the recent three-peat and strategic location in Melbourne’s sprawling Eastern Suburbs should be ideally suited to become the AFL’s 5th ‘big crowd / mass market’ Victorian club.

The current administration has given up engaging the Hawthorn support base and growing the pie. And ultimately this is the death trap we fell into in the early to mid 1990s.

The Ian Dicker administration wrote the rule book for fan engagement and the Kennett / Newbold (2006-2015) fully capitalised on the ground work.

From 2009 -

Hawks win big in Docklands dodge

HAWTHORN would not be the membership powerhouse it is today if it had chosen Docklands over the MCG a decade ago.

www.perthnow.com.au

Richmond in more recent times is a classic example of an engaged support base leading to on field and off field prosperity.

Whilst I do not think Hawthorn can fully replicate the Richmond model I do think a pivot back to the post 1997 strategy would be a correction for the better.

 

[Big Hotdog]

Ed sill was on talking hawks and at about 24.00 really let loose on the current board using club communication to point the others as outsiders and how didn’t want to align with any group….

Ed sill was on talking hawks and at about 24.00 really let loose on the current board using club communication to point the others as outsiders and how didn’t want to align with any group….

Ed comes across really well. It's people like Ed that make clubs tick. He will give people on the ground at the club a voice.

 

[Topiary]

Still not ideal to go from 2 women to 1 when most clubs are increasing representation at board level. Has Gowers mentioned how he plans to address this going forward if change candidates unseat Hudson and Pellizzer?

Agree. Gowers is supporting Liu. He will turn his attention post election to finding “quality female candidates unlike the current Board who recently extended VandenBurg’s term (under the Constitution you can) over the two women it is now so worried about”.

Yet another hypocrital move.

So much for diversity.

Just wants to change course from Kennett and his proxy Nankervill, just like Triolli pointed out.
Nankervill is a Kennett plant.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Agree. Gowers is supporting Liu. He will turn his attention post election to finding “quality female candidates unlike the current Board who recently extended VandenBurg’s term (under the Constitution you can) over the two women it is now so worried about”.

Yet another hypocrital move.

So much for diversity.

Just wants to change course from Kennett and his proxy Nankervill, just like Triolli pointed out.
Nankervill is a Kennett plant.

My mind is firmly made up to vote for Gowers after the Whately interview. I am keen to see Ed Sill on the board also. However - Hudson is a Hawthorn person, has a family connection to the club and is a fairly accomplished person in her own right. I would prefer to see her remain on the board even if she was put there during Kennett's reign. At this rate I am leaning towards a vote for Gower, Hudson, Sill and Lui.

 

[Poison]

Agree. Gowers is supporting Liu. He will turn his attention post election to finding “quality female candidates unlike the current Board who recently extended VandenBurg’s term (under the Constitution you can) over the two women it is now so worried about”.

Yet another hypocrital move.

So much for diversity.

Just wants to change course from Kennett and his proxy Nankervill, just like Triolli pointed out.
Nankervill is a Kennett plant.

This is the key takeout for me. Kennett preaches diversity but one existing Board member was entitled to be reappointed without facing re-election (given the overall number of vacancies this year) and they opted to reappoint Vandenberg. If Kennett and co were serious about gender diversity, Vandenberg would be re-contesting his position and one of the incumbent female members would have been appointed instead. Breathtaking hypocrisy.

 

[streetspirit]

Probably wishes if he had his time again he'd put Vanders up for public re-election, as he would have much higher name recognition amongst the public rather than the two female incumbents. If it's going to be a tight contest, you would have thought Vanders would have had a much higher chance of seeing off Sill, Merlino or Lui

 

[suedehead]

Unfortunately for Nankervill, he is now Hawthorn's Mike Pence. Can't shake off the Jeff association.

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[arupist]

Unfortunately for Nankervill, he is now Hawthorn's Mike Pence. Can't shake off the Jeff association.

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Are you saying he is the only one with morals?

 

[perrdan86]

Agree. Gowers is supporting Liu. He will turn his attention post election to finding “quality female candidates unlike the current Board who recently extended VandenBurg’s term (under the Constitution you can) over the two women it is now so worried about”.

Yet another hypocrital move.

So much for diversity.

Just wants to change course from Kennett and his proxy Nankervill, just like Triolli pointed out.
Nankervill is a Kennett plant.

Tbh I think Vanders has done a pretty good job.

 

[Yardie]

Tbh I think Vanders has done a pretty good job.

But by extending him (who would probably easily be re-elected) and not a female Jeff has ensured the boys club marches on.....

 

[perrdan86]

But by extending him (who would probably easily be re-elected) and not a female Jeff has ensured the boys club marches on.....

But what if he was to get lumped in with the kennett crew? Or somehow does lose his spot?

Why risk having our only football ops board rep voted off. No point putting him up for re-election if he deserves to keep his spot. It's a vote of confidence in his direction.

I'm all for diversity on the board. But I don't want to sacrifice quality for it. If the best people for all the positions were female, then i don't care, id be all for it. I just dont see any of the ladies bringing the football ops side of things to the board that Vanders does.

 

[Yardie]

But what if he was to get lumped in with the kennett crew? Or somehow does lose his spot?

Why risk having our only football ops board rep voted off. No point putting him up for re-election if he deserves to keep his spot. It's a vote of confidence in his direction.

I'm all for diversity on the board. But I don't want to sacrifice quality for it. If the best people for all the positions were female, then i don't care, id be all for it. I just dont see any of the ladies bringing the football ops side of things to the board that Vanders does.

I'm just pointing out that Kennett is a hypocrite on his diversity claims when he had it completely in his power to ensure that we retained a female on the Board.

But to your point on best people for the positions. Why are you comparing the female Board members to the football ops position rather than to the position they are best suited? They should be judged for the position they are best suited. You're falling into the same trap when discussing diversity that continues to make it difficult.

 

[perrdan86]

I'm just pointing out that Kennett is a hypocrite on his diversity claims when he had it completely in his power to ensure that we retained a female on the Board.

But to your point on best people for the positions. Why are you comparing the female Board members to the football ops position rather than to the position they are best suited? They should be judged for the position they are best suited. You're falling into the same trap when discussing diversity that continues to make it difficult.

Im comparing it because if Vanders happened to get voted off the board, who then brings the football ops side of things to the board? There is no one else suited to the position that vanders has, so why put him up and risk him getting voted off?