News Hawthorn in the media 2024

[Strapping Young Lad]

Just like last years thread, whatever Barrett has to say is not Hawthorn in the media.

Couldn’t care less for his shit takes, they don’t belong here.

 

[KermitJagger]

Nice editing here.

I don't hate Kaneo like most posters seem to, and I think at the core of it is because - yes, he's being intentionally inflammatory, but he's also honest about it, and is willing to change his mind and walk back statements if needed. The journalists I can't stand are the ones who are inflammatory and pretend that they're not, and/or refuse to change their minds or walk back anything, or possibly even worse, just toe the line on everything.

Plus he's so glowing about Sam. Can't hate him.

 

[cs61]

I don't hate Kaneo like most posters seem to, and I think at the core of it is because - yes, he's being intentionally inflammatory, but he's also honest about it, and is willing to change his mind and walk back statements if needed. The journalists I can't stand are the ones who are inflammatory and pretend that they're not, and/or refuse to change their minds or walk back anything, or possibly even worse, just toe the line on everything.

Plus he's so glowing about Sam. Can't hate him.

I agree with this partially, he is miles better than Barrett. He does offer something and some insight. Its far better than Barrett just bending reality to bang home an agenda despite being proven completely wrong.

What I don't like with Cornes how critical and how much pressure he puts on people for the slightest mistakes, or form, or what he perceives as being hypocritical etc, etc, yet his own mistakes, which he makes regularly, he just goes 'my bad', and moves on with no consequence and on he goes. He brings the blowtorch on others for standards, but its fine for him to throw around opinions at anything and everything and even though he is often wrong there is no accountability.

 

[kirbatron]

I agree with this partially, he is miles better than Barrett. He does offer something and some insight. Its far better than Barrett just bending reality to bang home an agenda despite being proven completely wrong.

What I don't like with Cornes how critical and how much pressure he puts on people for the slightest mistakes, or form, or what he perceives as being hypocritical etc, etc, yet his own mistakes, which he makes regularly, he just goes 'my bad', and moves on with no consequence and on he goes. He brings the blowtorch on others for standards, but its fine for him to throw around opinions at anything and everything and even though he is often wrong there is no accountability.

part of being in high profile roles these days is dealing with media- good & bad. rightly or wrongly

 

[Mercy Seat]

I agree with this partially, he is miles better than Barrett. He does offer something and some insight. Its far better than Barrett just bending reality to bang home an agenda despite being proven completely wrong.

What I don't like with Cornes how critical and how much pressure he puts on people for the slightest mistakes, or form, or what he perceives as being hypocritical etc, etc, yet his own mistakes, which he makes regularly, he just goes 'my bad', and moves on with no consequence and on he goes. He brings the blowtorch on others for standards, but its fine for him to throw around opinions at anything and everything and even though he is often wrong there is no accountability.

Kane’s an entertainer not a footy journo. He freely admits to taking his cue from the American sports school of hot takes which is all about coming up with a contrarian position and defending it to the death, and then doing it all again the next day, even if it contradicts the previous take.

I don’t hate him like some people, I actually enjoy it from an entertainment perspective. But you can’t take anything he says beyond a grain of salt as not even he believes half the things he says.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I don't hate Kaneo like most posters seem to, and I think at the core of it is because - yes, he's being intentionally inflammatory, but he's also honest about it, and is willing to change his mind and walk back statements if needed. The journalists I can't stand are the ones who are inflammatory and pretend that they're not, and/or refuse to change their minds or walk back anything, or possibly even worse, just toe the line on everything.

Plus he's so glowing about Sam. Can't hate him.

It’s why Caro gets credit for actually going on the record last year and saying “Sorry Sam, I was wrong”.

 

[peetoo]

It’s why Caro gets credit for actually going on the record last year and saying “Sorry Sam, I was wrong”.

They all did the 180 then laughed at Damo as if it was all his idea. Precious

 

[unitedhawk]

They all did the 180 then laughed at Damo as if it was all his idea. Precious

There's absolutely nothing wrong with doing a 180 and admitting you were wrong, which is what Caro and other proper journos did.

They laughed at Purple - and quite rightly so - because he was too stubborn to admit he was wrong.

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Even Kingy has jumped on

 

[threesixpio]

Even Kingy has jumped on

I wonder whether Kingy types just hated Clarko. Media seems to like Sammy in the main which is weird because he was the biggest smart arse of all time on the field …

I liked it btw. Man after my heart

 

[Bugs1977]

I wonder whether Kingy types just hated Clarko. Media seems to like Sammy in the main which is weird because he was the biggest smart arse of all time on the field …

I liked it btw. Man after my heart

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I really don't think the AFL world is ready for Hawthorn to be good again and nor do I think they can handle it. But quite frankly IDGAF

 

[threesixpio]

I really don't think the AFL world is ready for Hawthorn to be good again and nor do I think they can handle it. But quite frankly IDGAF

I want them to be unready

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Even Kingy has jumped on

"Geez, the hawks are going to be exciting"

From 18:37.

 

[threesixpio]

They’re pumping up our tyres everywhere now. Wowee

 

[TheFourPillars]

They’re pumping up our tyres everywhere now. Wowee

Yeah a bit too much i think we have done nothing yet lets win some games first

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[Bugs1977]

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The thing that made my ears spike was when after King mentions 'Ginnivan and we all know what he does and Watson did the same a couple of times' was right after it he says 'defenders better get their tackling technique right'. This IMO can go either one of two ways and I'm really hoping it's the second: 1) Ginnivan keep doing his serial ducking and Watson follows suit which makes the umpires not call anything even when the high frees are there OR 2) just play the ball and not duck at all and the frees will come naturally.

Either way I predict the free kick Hawthorn thing will return and it's gonna be glorious

 

[Simon Crawshay]

Also noticed that King gave Kossy a fair old clip for dropping a chest mark at a Richmond training session that he watched.

King said you can't be a full forward and drop chest marks.

Oh trust me David we are all across that element of Jacobs game!

 

[kazzooka]

The thing that made my ears spike was when after King mentions 'Ginnivan and we all know what he does and Watson did the same a couple of times' was right after it he says 'defenders better get their tackling technique right'. This IMO can go either one of two ways and I'm really hoping it's the second: 1) Ginnivan keep doing his serial ducking and Watson follows suit which makes the umpires not call anything even when the high frees are there OR 2) just play the ball and not duck at all and the frees will come naturally.

Either way I predict the free kick Hawthorn thing will return and it's gonna be glorious

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If Watson ducks he'll just go under that tackle and through their legs. IF he doesn't duck they'll still miss or get him high.

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[pattymalone00]

 

[cryptor]

I wonder whether Kingy types just hated Clarko. Media seems to like Sammy in the main which is weird because he was the biggest smart arse of all time on the field …

I liked it btw. Man after my heart

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Sam opened Hawthorn back up to the media. Made himself available regularly to Kane and Kingy on their Friday show. Players were also made available for more interviews which builds their profiles in the media and will help them get their due recognition for the numerous media voted awards.

It's honestly one of his best moves as senior coach in terms of the off field stuff. Just look at how much freedom Chris Scott has had over the years to set the agenda to the benefit of Geelong just by doing AFL360 every Monday night. With any luck Sam will soon be able to swing that gig too.

Coaches like Clarko and Malthouse were brilliant on field but they constantly treated the media like adversaries and it did them no favours.

 

[Topiary]

Sam opened Hawthorn back up to the media. Made himself available regularly to Kane and Kingy on their Friday show. Players were also made available for more interviews which builds their profiles in the media and will help them get their due recognition for the numerous media voted awards.

It's honestly one of his best moves as senior coach in terms of the off field stuff. Just look at how much freedom Chris Scott has had over the years to set the agenda to the benefit of Geelong just by doing AFL360 every Monday night. With any luck Sam will soon be able to swing that gig too.

Coaches like Clarko and Malthouse were brilliant on field but they constantly treated the media like adversaries and it did them no favours.

So did Kennedy and Jeans and to a lesser extent Parko. It was a different time however.

 

[Randy Campbell]

I don't think I have seen a better media player then Sam Mitchell.

For me it started with Clinton Grybas on White Line Fever and like with most things he seems to do, he has only continued to improve.

If you can help to improve Hawthorn, I honestly believe Sam will try to help you.

 

[TheFourPillars]

Media are self serving. If things go wrong those so called advocates disappear and the whole media world is against u and the coach is usually the number 1 target.