Autopsy Hawthorn v Geelong - opposition supporters coming to troll will be carded

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The only positive is that we can't persist with half measures. We are now in full rebuild.

OUT: Gibson (been a champ but it's over), Shiels (a passenger when not surrounded by stars, make an example of him), Langford (not AFL standard), O'Brien (not AFL standard), McEvoy (cooked, not the future), Henderson (competing but not the future)

IN: O'Meara, Howe, Stewart, Pittonet, O'Rourke, Cousins

New era starts now. If senior players want to contribute and lead, they can. If they don't, seek a trade at seasons end.
 
Langford goes at 71% (better than a certain vice captain) and plays like a bull yet people still call for his head.

Unbelievable. The kid tried his guts out today. If you want to torch people on disposal look at Cyril, Shiels or Mitchell who had 8 clangers first!

Langford earned his pay today.
 

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3rd quarter (till last 5 mins) was good intensity - poor skills but at least intensity there.

i was hoping we could at least win the last quarter and it would have been an acceptable effort. The last was diabolical. Its like we are programmed for maybe 60-75 mins of footy and then fatigue cripples the entire team.
 
Well he isn't going to get any better by dominating at Box Hill, being brought in then dropped every second week. He is one of the few who takes the game on
If I have to watch his soft as butter, one arm half hearted, flatly refuses to put his body on the line attempts at tackling for the rest of the season. I'll ****ing lose my shit!!
 
You cannot expect Hartung to get any form if he is dropped every second week

The problem with Hartung isn't form. It's decision making, decisiveness and skill to execute.
At the moment he is running for us and getting the ball......it's also killing us cause of the above 3 abilities he doesn't have
 
Hodge, Brand, Hardwick, Sic and Big boy all battled today. That's about it
Burton was good early too. Mitchell also got the ball.

McEvoy showed some heart, shame it took his 150th for it to come out this season.

Burgers was a little better.

We also tackled well in the first half.
 
Hawthorns kicking efficiency is atrocious from an outsider i can't understand what is happening
The fall in the last quarter was painful and disappointing
 
Had Geelong kicked straight we would have gone down by 100+. What happened to this group, we got a core premiership team still. Cyril, Gunston,Poppy, Breust cameo appearances. Something is not right. Saints licking their lips because they are going to get the #1 pick..I'd rate Sydney better than this group. Which makes the Jaeger trade a big loss. Who would want to come to hawthorn now? Makes you wonder the coin Jaeger is on if some players are not too happy.
"Knock to the knee" my ar$e - with a long break FFS. O'Meara trade is looking botched. I'm on record in the O'Meara thread saying I was against it. I want him to be our next great, but I'm worried he will be done by 26 years old
 

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Rough is very, very ordinary at the minute, but like so many of our players, he doesn't have a position. I'd be out of sorts with our lack of game plan too
I love Rough but his form stinks for reasons understandable.
 
Live footage of the "Sky is not falling" thread

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It's a year of finding the small things. It has to be the end for a few, won't single them out. Just watching the kids run around and look for positive signs where they show themselves. It's going to be a long season, so no point focusing on results for now.
 
Can see comparisons with the bombers of last year minus the drug thing . Majority of the side not up to it and really no one to fallback on in the VFL either . But we're probably in worse Knicks because at least they had high draft picks to look forward To . Fu$k this has been poorly managed !!!!!
 
Langford goes at 71% (better than a certain vice captain) and plays like a bull yet people still call for his head.

Unbelievable. The kid tried his guts out today. If you want to torch people on disposal look at Cyril, Shiels or Mitchell who had 8 clangers first!

Langford earned his pay today.
IKR at the end there langford was the only play to spread from the contest, gets the ball rans past many geelong players 4 hawks sit in the goal square 80 from him with there opponents sitting 10 m infornt.

Langford runs out of time and has to kick it, keep in mind nearest hawk 80m away. It drops short.


"Langford turns it over again."
 
After 5 minutes it was obvious another spanking was on the cards.

The skill level and disposal was so bad throughout it was laughable.

Hang your heads in shame cause that was an absolute disgrace.
 
Oh well. Shit happens. We'll be back. One day.

Simple start. Play the guys in form in the 2's. Play the kids with potential. Drop the 'names' - whoever they are - that out of form. Shiels, Gibson, Bruest. That never hurt anyone. We are getting flogged anyway. A bit of youthful enthusiasm could do wonders and what message does it send if you keep playing players who are going half-arsed?
 
Langford gone
Gibbo gone
Burgers last year
Henderson gone
O'brien gone
Vickery spud at richmond joke at hawforn
Hodge last year
Hartung not good enough
Brand 50/50
Mitchell/Lewis decision looks pretty stupid now.
1st round pick gone

A rebuild with close losses to be expected but floggings are not.
Should make for some embarrassing melts this week.
Get used to Hawks being shit.
I am optimistic that the 2nd half of the year should see better results & maybe a win or 2 ;)

Mitchell & Lewis wouldn't make a scrap of difference to this. It started last year. Everyone knew it. We just had enough know how to crawl across the line a few times.
For a decade we've given up draft picks for players to win us flags. We've played a month extra finals footy. We've copped the worst draws. We've lost 5 coaches. We've lost all senior staff.
We are year one of a rebuild.
It's patience now. They've lost confidence and today after an ok effort first half the damn wall opened.

Unfortunately flags in 2014, 15 and a shake at 16 is the price we pay for what we see today.
 

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