Vic How would you rate Daniel Andrews' performance as Victorian Premier? - Part 7

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Of course I care, unlike you who is such a partisan hack you can never see anything wrong with Dan.
That is rubbish!

There is no difference between those that think he can't do anything wrong (although I don't see that many of them) unlike posters like you and your ilk that see everything he is doing/done is wrong.

It is laughable.
 
Instead of hiding behind covid, admit that the medical system has been below par for years. And instead of false promises, make inroads to getting things back up to scratch.

Good article for your Sunday. The photo says it all.

 
Good article for your Sunday. The photo says it all.


Somewhere else's ED must be doing a lot better than most metro Melbourne ED if the national average of "longer than 4 hours to be admitted or discharged" is 1 in 3. Its much closer to 1 in 2 where I work and from the data I have seen its similar at other Vic metro ED.

Unfortunately that article still assumes that there is a duty of care for hospitals to find safe housing for homeless people. Locally that ship has long sailed. Hospitals are not housing services. I fully accept that lack of housing leads to poor health outcomes but we (hospitals) don't have the resources to fix this.

And while I am aware this will come off as racist/ culturally insensitive - but one thing that patients can do to help themselves is to learn English. While we theoretically have interpreting staff available, many interpreters are 1) only available business hours for face to face 2) limited to phone interpreting due to their own health issues (so not supposed to go to higher risk of COVID areas like the emergency department) 3) the ED is often noisy making phone interpreting inaccurate/ ineffective
 
Sounds more like covid-supporters, or covid-enablers than covid-protesters.
To me it comes down to whether peaceful protest is a fundamental right or not. If it is, you should support the right to protest irrespective of the cause. If it isn't, the same justification and response can be used for causes you champion.

Take the logging protesters for example, which now may be jailed. What's the justification? Safety, same as covid.

Some of you guys are so short sighted.
 
Somewhere else's ED must be doing a lot better than most metro Melbourne ED if the national average of "longer than 4 hours to be admitted or discharged" is 1 in 3. Its much closer to 1 in 2 where I work and from the data I have seen its similar at other Vic metro ED.

Unfortunately that article still assumes that there is a duty of care for hospitals to find safe housing for homeless people. Locally that ship has long sailed. Hospitals are not housing services. I fully accept that lack of housing leads to poor health outcomes but we (hospitals) don't have the resources to fix this.

And while I am aware this will come off as racist/ culturally insensitive - but one thing that patients can do to help themselves is to learn English. While we theoretically have interpreting staff available, many interpreters are 1) only available business hours for face to face 2) limited to phone interpreting due to their own health issues (so not supposed to go to higher risk of COVID areas like the emergency department) 3) the ED is often noisy making phone interpreting inaccurate/ ineffective

The article does not recognise that the decisions are made by people not 'hospitals'. Those responsible for housing (an example) dont face the 24/7 problems presenting in EDs.
 
To me it comes down to whether peaceful protest is a fundamental right or not. If it is, you should support the right to protest irrespective of the cause. If it isn't, the same justification and response can be used for causes you champion.

Take the logging protesters for example, which now may be jailed. What's the justification? Safety, same as covid.

Some of you guys are so short sighted.
The difference was the timing. Not in favour of protests while rampant virus with unvaccinated population
 
To me it comes down to whether peaceful protest is a fundamental right or not. If it is, you should support the right to protest irrespective of the cause. If it isn't, the same justification and response can be used for causes you champion.
Take the logging protesters for example, which now may be jailed. What's the justification? Safety, same as covid.
Some of you guys are so short sighted.
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There's really no point protesting about lockdowns unless you're in lockdown.

The ballot box is the only way to express your opinion on lockdowns.
Are the Libs up to making an issue of it.

Are the Libs smart enough to take a leaf out of the campaign tactics that were a winner for the ALP/Albo :

I very much doubt the Vic Libs are that smart.
 

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The ballot box is the only way to express your opinion on lockdowns.
Are the Libs up to making an issue of it.
You could say the same of any issue, yet people still attend protests for whatever reason.

I'd be surprised if policy differences regarding lockdowns or anything to do with covid will make much difference in the election. There's bigger current day issues that warrant more attention.
 
You could say the same of any issue, yet people still attend protests for whatever reason.

I'd be surprised if policy differences regarding lockdowns or anything to do with covid will make much difference in the election. There's bigger current day issues that warrant more attention.

It will matter in the state election just as how Morrison and Frydenberg's reaction contributed to them losing government. The ALP will be nervous, not so much about winning this state election however their concern will be if its majority becomes small enough to give the Liberals a sniff in 2026.
 
Like I said...


All you do, is regurgitate talking points.

Are you scared to think for yourself?

Coming from the person who supports real pay cuts because Dan is never wrong…

If I just regurgitate talking points wouldn’t I be against the pay rise because it causes inflation?
 
Coming from the person who supports real pay cuts because Dan is never wrong…
Where have I done that???

Stop creating boogeymen, start thinking for yourself...

If I just regurgitate talking points wouldn’t I be against the pay rise because it causes inflation?
No... you're regurgitating talking points, because you've no idea why you support or oppose a position...
 
Where have I done that???

Stop creating boogeymen, start thinking for yourself...


No... you're regurgitating talking points, because you've no idea why you support or oppose a position...

Well you refused to say you don’t support Dans pay cuts. Why keep ignoring the question if you don’t?
 
So I haven't done what you claim...

Also, did you ask me? Either way... No I don't support "Dans pay cuts".
What's your biggest problem with "Dans pay cuts"?

Yes I did and you ignored it to keep repeating the same thing over and over, yet have the nerve to call our other peoples posting.

Because it affects people I know who are facing cost of living pressures and getting a pay cut whilst Dan enjoys his massive pay rise before cutting everyone else’s wages. Yet has the nerve to stand side by side with Albo as he calls for pay rises in line with inflation, something Dans government has put policies in place to stop occurring.

It also takes them 6-7 months to actually approve any agreements as well just putting further pressure on peoples stretched budgets and no idea if things will ever improve, even at the measly 1.5% the government is offering.
 
Yes I did and you ignored it to keep repeating the same thing over and over, yet have the nerve to call our other peoples posting.

Because it affects people I know who are facing cost of living pressures and getting a pay cut whilst Dan enjoys his massive pay rise before cutting everyone else’s wages. Yet has the nerve to stand side by side with Albo as he calls for pay rises in line with inflation, something Dans government has put policies in place to stop occurring.

It also takes them 6-7 months to actually approve any agreements as well just putting further pressure on peoples stretched budgets and no idea if things will ever improve, even at the measly 1.5% the government is offering.

Hey Ed, you talking about teachers by any chance?
 
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