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Yeah we need to overturn a few 28+ players IMO but no real point doing for list clogging 3rd round picks, unless we think we are opening up space to nab BOTH Lynch and Gaff in free agency in 12 months.
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Yeah we need to overturn a few 28+ players IMO but no real point doing for list clogging 3rd round picks, unless we think we are opening up space to nab BOTH Lynch and Gaff in free agency in 12 months.
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Gonna bring this back with included Duryea compo & Gaff inclusion
Puopolo & Smith + pick 60 for 2018 1st & Kennedy + pick 69?
Pick 32 & 42 for Pick 23 & 60
on-trade pick 60 to Freo for Balic
Whitecross to Brisbane for Pick 73(if anything)
Duryea nets us a 3rd round compo(43)
Pick 23, 43, 69 & 73 for Gaff, Pick 48, 67 & 85
Out: Poupolo, Smith, Whitecross, Duryea, Picks 32, 42 & 60
In: Kennedy, Balic, Gaff, Picks 48, 67 & 85 + 2018 1st
Players in: Kennedy, Balic & Gaff
Players out: Puopolo, Smith, Whitecross, Duryea
Picks in: Picks 48, 67, 85 & 2018 1st
Picks out: 32, 42, 60
Thoughts people?
Puopolo & Smith + pick 60 for 2018 1st & Kennedy + pick 69?
Pick 32 & 42 for Pick 23 & 60
on-trade pick 60 to Freo for Balic
Whitecross to Brisbane for Pick 73(if anything)
Duryea nets us a 3rd round compo(43)
Pick 23, 43, 69 & 73 for Gaff, Pick 48, 67 & 85
Out: Poupolo, Smith, Whitecross, Duryea, Picks 32, 42 & 60
In: Kennedy, Balic, Gaff, Picks 48, 67 & 85 + 2018 1st
Players in: Kennedy, Balic & Gaff
Players out: Puopolo, Smith, Whitecross, Duryea
Picks in: Picks 48, 67, 85 & 2018 1st
Picks out: 32, 42, 60
Thoughts people?
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With the 2018 first what do you think we are Garner do with the pick?
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I think we will need to use at least 1 1st rounder next year if we don't use one this year due to the 2 1st rounders in 4 years rule that came with future trading.
So we'll keep both 2018 1st for next year and see who's on the market but likely we'll have to use 1 of them. + next is supposedly a superdraft so if thats true these picks will be handy to say the least
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Again West Coast will receive better compensation for Gaff in 12 months time, so why would they do that deal ?
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Do you reckon Hartung & 23 for Gaff & 67 would get it done?
In regards to player ages, conditioning and recovery has improved a great deal to the point where players are and will continue to plate longer. Especially players who have no injury history and play on the outside. Often a players peak is 28. We are seeing a lot of players reach 300 games and boomer went past that mark by a long way. I haven't run the numbers but I'd say science has given players a couple of seasons extra. So someone like smith can probably expect to play to 33 with no issues and maybe get to 35 if lucky. Wouldn't be too quick to cast aside some of our older players. They may have longer left in them than you think.
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Well i've never been keen on Gaff and if that won't get it done then i'm definitely not interested. They won't get a better deal through FA next year as i doubt Gaff would get into the top 15 players salary cap wise over 25 years of age. End of 1st I would think he would get
Gaff is severely underated around hear. Hartung and shit wouldn't even get a pair of his boots.
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West Coast would have to rate Hartung substantially higher than I do for them to consider that deal. Personally I think the eagles would be after a top 10 pick or if a 2nd round pick they'd want a play significantly better than Billy.
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I think you grossly overrate Gaff if you think he's worth anything close to a top ten pick.
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Re Gaff - what would they get in compo the year after as a FA?
Top ten?
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Top ten?
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For me all of these players would be on the table over Smith (Birch reluctantly due to his leadership). However, everyone has a price and if we were offered a deal that both parties couldn't refuse then Smith should be considered as well. What I don’t want to see is another ‘good bloke’ deal where we trade away solid players/leaders for SFA. The realist in me says that they we did them a solid for their service and were happy to get SFA in return, but AFL is big business and Clarko always says you put the club first, so the optimist in me thinks that there may have been more to those deals than we know; maybe we see a couple of surprises especially from the West.
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I would think Gaff would net an end of 1st pick as compo if he left next year through FA
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Late to the party... but where's all the Gaff talk stemming from? Has he requested a trade or something, or are we just hoping we could lure him home?
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Hope your right. Fyfe & Gaff plz
Agree, by all accounts Rocky will net the Lions and end of first if he leaves. I can't see Gaff being more valuable to the Eagles than Rocky is to the Lions.
Gaff and Balic would probably be more reasonable
I think we would be better off picking up Gaff next year as a FA. I would suggest this as an alternative.
Our current picks are: 32, 42, 60 and 79. Under your assumption Duryea leaves as a FA we also receive 43.
GWS trade: Puopolo + 42 for Kennedy and 2018 fourth.
West Coast trade: Hartung + 32 for WC round one 2017(I believe pick 13?). I value Hartung as a late second rounder and I believe, in accordance with the draft value index, that this would be enough to get that deal done.
I also suggest that we trade ONE of Stratton, Frawley or Birchall to Collingwood (or another club with similar picks). I know Birch and Stratton offer a great deal of leadership down back and that we don't have many KPD, making Frawley more valuable to us. I believe however, with the current crop of young defenders coming through, that we can afford to trade one of these premiership stars (although I will cry a little inside).
Collingwood trade: Player (Stratton or Frawley or Birchall) + 79 for picks 36, 54.
Freeo trade: pick 54 and 60 for Balic and 58. I believe this is fair value as the kid has hardly played, but does have potential. We also have some good will in the bank with Freeo with respect to Brad Hill.
Suns trade (maybe): pick 36 for Rory Thompson. Not sure on Rory Thompson and at how much he would be valued. We could potentially get him cheaper. But at 200cm and with a bit of Clarkson I think he could provide adequate cover, if we were to say trade Frawley. He is also a few years younger than Frawley, Stratton and Birch.
In summary,
Out: Duryea, Puopolo, Hartung, one of (Stratton, Frawley or Birchall) and picks 32, 42, 79.
In: Kennedy, Balic and picks 13, 36 (or Thompson), 58 + 2018 fourth (GWS)
Edit: also in pick 43
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Hartung and a draft pick for Gaff ain't gonna cut it. Some of the trade suggestions in this thread are horribly bad.
Smith will only be traded out if it nets a first round pick in return.
With Hartung likely to be out the door, our outside midfield stocks is the worst in the league. Trading Smith makes zero sense unless the club knows it has a player they have over the line from another club during this years trade period.
If we talking about those who are 25 and over on our list, there's currently four players with extremely high market value. They are;
Rioli (worth a top 5 pick)
Gunston (worth a top 10 pick)
Breust (worth a late first round pick)
Smith (worth a late first round pick)
Smith will only be traded out if it nets a first round pick in return.
With Hartung likely to be out the door, our outside midfield stocks is the worst in the league. Trading Smith makes zero sense unless the club knows it has a player they have over the line from another club during this years trade period.
If we talking about those who are 25 and over on our list, there's currently four players with extremely high market value. They are;
Rioli (worth a top 5 pick)
Gunston (worth a top 10 pick)
Breust (worth a late first round pick)
Smith (worth a late first round pick)
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