List Mgmt. Hypothetical trades and wishlists thread

[Since 2001]

Hawks: Stratton
Freo: Balic and 2018 third

Hawks: Birchall and WhiteX
Lions: 41 and 2018 3rd

Hawks: Hartung and 32
WCE: Gaff

Hawks: Poppy and 41
GWS: Kennedy

Rockliff free agent?

INS: Balic, Gaff, Kennedy, Freo's 2018 third rounder and Lions 2018 third rounder
Out: Stratton, Birchall, WhiteX, Hartung and Poppy

Best 22:
Hardiwck Brand Burton
Burgoyne Frawley Gunston

McEvoy Shiels O'Meara
Smith Mitchell Gaff

Bruest O'Brien Shoey
O'Rouke Roughead Rioli

Balic, Kennedy,Sicily, Lovell, Morrison, Stewart, Miles, Howe

 

[Millsie69]

Hawks: Stratton
Freo: Balic and 2018 second

Hawks: Birchall and WhiteX
Lions: 41 and 2018 3rd

Hawks: Hartung and 32
WCE: Gaff

Hawks: Poppy and 41
GWS: Kennedy

Rockliff free agent?

INS: Balic, Gaff, Kennedy, Freo's 2018 second rounder and Lions 2018 third rounder
Out: Stratton, Birchall, WhiteX, Hartung and Poppy

Best 22:
Hardiwck Brand Burton
Burgoyne Frawley Gunston

McEvoy Shiels O'Meara
Smith Mitchell Gaff

Bruest O'Brien Shoey
O'Rouke Roughead Rioli

Balic, Kennedy,Sicily, Lovell, Morrison, Stewart, Miles, Howe

Heavily undervaluing Birch there.

Would take the latter two trades in a heartbeat though.

 

[Hawk Dork]

Balic to Dees
Gaff maybe next year

 

[Since 2001]

Heavily undervaluing Birch there.

Would take the latter two trades in a heartbeat though.

I think with Birchall you have to take age into consideration and his recent injuries. Brisbanes third rounder is essentially a late second and their second would be too high and overs for the two.

 

[RIOLINWITPUNCHS]

Think I read somewhere that Glass and Cousins may be spending another year on the rookie list with the promise of promotion end of 2018.

You are correct.

Doesn't matter anyway as all rookies can play seniors without being upgraded from next year under the new EB.

Effectively there is no rookie list.

 

[Millsie69]

I think with Birchall you have to take age into consideration and his recent injuries. Brisbanes third rounder is essentially a late second and their second would be too high and overs for the two.

I can't see us trading another experienced defender having just lost Gibbo and Hodge. A fit Birchall will be crucial for our young backline over the next few seasons.

 

[Roughies Boys]

Balic to Dees
Gaff maybe next year

Neither of these... Dees be busy chasing for Lever.

Gaff... Nah rather Chayce Jones

 

[RIOLINWITPUNCHS]

Did anyone else notice Poppy and Dureya embracing each other in the middle of Etihad stadium after our last game against the Dogs?

The camera's were generally focused on Hodge, Murphy and Boyd but when i saw this I thought to myself gee i wonder if that was both of them knowing it was the last time they would play for the hawks.

 

[Roughies Boys]

Hawks: Stratton
Freo: Balic and 2018 third

Hawks: Birchall and WhiteX
Lions: 41 and 2018 3rd

Hawks: Hartung and 32
WCE: Gaff

Hawks: Poppy and 41
GWS: Kennedy

Rockliff free agent?

INS: Balic, Gaff, Kennedy, Freo's 2018 third rounder and Lions 2018 third rounder
Out: Stratton, Birchall, WhiteX, Hartung and Poppy

Best 22:
Hardiwck Brand Burton
Burgoyne Frawley Gunston

McEvoy Shiels O'Meara
Smith Mitchell Gaff

Bruest O'Brien Shoey
O'Rouke Roughead Rioli

Balic, Kennedy,Sicily, Lovell, Morrison, Stewart, Miles, Howe

And just like that and our backline will fall apart due to all the talkers being traded above...

 

[Since 2001]

And just like that and our backline will fall apart due to all the talkers being traded above...

I don't know what your point is here.
They will eventually go and they looked pretty solid to me nearing the end of the season. Getting Frawley back will add stability, Gunston 2nd year down there will be a big voice and still have Burgoyne.

 

[Roughies Boys]

I don't know what your point is here.
They will eventually go and they looked pretty solid to me nearing the end of the season. Getting Frawley back will add stability, Gunston 2nd year down there will be a big voice and still have Burgoyne.

Frawley is not a talker... We were fine because of Hodgey. Burto will be a big talker next year, But Stratts & Birch are big voices in that backline that are needed next year & we won't be shifting them out.

 

[MasterSamurai]

We can afford to lose only one of Frawley, Stratts and Birchall plus we might be looking to load up the next two years in the draft, so we're not left too far behind GWS, bulldogs, dees etc... In the long run.

 

[seysearles]

As stated previously the guys I'd like as ins to the hawks:
Rockliff, M Kennedy, Balic

Im with you on this. Any chance Freo could throw as a bone for handing over Hill for unders and without much fuss?

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Frawley is not a talker... We were fine because of Hodgey. Burto will be a big talker next year, But Stratts & Birch are big voices in that backline that are needed next year & we won't be shifting them out.

Glass was directing players in his first game. He'll be a talker, to be sure.

I tend to agree though that we need to keep one of Birchall or Stratton.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Hawks: Stratton
Freo: Balic and 2018 third

Hawks: Birchall and WhiteX
Lions: 41 and 2018 3rd

Hawks: Hartung and 32
WCE: Gaff

Hawks: Poppy and 41
GWS: Kennedy

Rockliff free agent?

INS: Balic, Gaff, Kennedy, Freo's 2018 third rounder and Lions 2018 third rounder
Out: Stratton, Birchall, WhiteX, Hartung and Poppy

Best 22:
Hardiwck Brand Burton
Burgoyne Frawley Gunston

McEvoy Shiels O'Meara
Smith Mitchell Gaff

Bruest O'Brien Shoey
O'Rouke Roughead Rioli

Balic, Kennedy,Sicily, Lovell, Morrison, Stewart, Miles, Howe

Poor deal for us the first one & an even poorer deal for the Eagles the 2nd one.

 

[WWSD]

Going into next season Frawley is needed more than Birchall.

 

[Mitchell54]

Hawks: Stratton
Freo: Balic and 2018 third

Hawks: Birchall and WhiteX
Lions: 41 and 2018 3rd

Hawks: Hartung and 32
WCE: Gaff

Hawks: Poppy and 41
GWS: Kennedy

Rockliff free agent?

INS: Balic, Gaff, Kennedy, Freo's 2018 third rounder and Lions 2018 third rounder
Out: Stratton, Birchall, WhiteX, Hartung and Poppy

Best 22:
Hardiwck Brand Burton
Burgoyne Frawley Gunston

McEvoy Shiels O'Meara
Smith Mitchell Gaff

Bruest O'Brien Shoey
O'Rouke Roughead Rioli

Balic, Kennedy,Sicily, Lovell, Morrison, Stewart, Miles, Howe

We need a defence. I wouldn't trade either Stratton or Birchall. It would just be too much turnaround. That can be dangerous and if your trading alot of players it may not be healthy for the players as their worried that they'll be next on the trading table.
Also i don't like the idea of Burton & Gunston having to play defence to keep it afloat. Sure they can play there if its required but would not like to see them being forced to play there all year. We'll need Gunston forward when Roughy retires in a couple/few years. Would like to try Burton in the middle

 

[BobDay]

Hawks: Stratton
Freo: Balic and 2018 third

Hawks: Birchall and WhiteX
Lions: 41 and 2018 3rd

Hawks: Hartung and 32
WCE: Gaff

Hawks: Poppy and 41
GWS: Kennedy

Rockliff free agent?

INS: Balic, Gaff, Kennedy, Freo's 2018 third rounder and Lions 2018 third rounder
Out: Stratton, Birchall, WhiteX, Hartung and Poppy

Best 22:
Hardiwck Brand Burton
Burgoyne Frawley Gunston

McEvoy Shiels O'Meara
Smith Mitchell Gaff

Bruest O'Brien Shoey
O'Rouke Roughead Rioli

Balic, Kennedy,Sicily, Lovell, Morrison, Stewart, Miles, Howe

Mate I don't know what team you been watching the last seven or eight years to suggest trading Burch & Stratts for teaspoons. Both are vital, they are leaders and have some years of football left in them.

 

[dermott]

It is interesting to note the enthusiasm for Balic. Have any of the Perth contingent seen him play?
All I can see is a player who slipped in the 2015 draft to pick 38 presumably over concerns about a chronic wrist injury. He was drafted by Freo in spite of concerns about him being a "homing pigeon" and subsequently played 4 senior games whilst missing much of the last two seasons with a wrist operation and extended bouts of "home leave".
I assume the interest in him is based on "potential" because on the face of it he doesn't have much exposed form.

 

[threesixpio]

And just like that and our backline will fall apart due to all the talkers being traded above...

You're uncharacteristically under-estimating our youth

 

[threesixpio]

It is interesting to note the enthusiasm for Balic. Have any of the Perth contingent seen him play?
All I can see is a player who slipped in the 2015 draft to pick 38 presumably over concerns about a chronic wrist injury. He was drafted by Freo in spite of concerns about him being a "homing pigeon" and subsequently played 4 senior games whilst missing much of the last two seasons with a wrist operation and extended bouts of "home leave".
I assume the interest in him is based on "potential" because on the face of it he doesn't have much exposed form.

A Freo mate of mine at work says really good things about him but expects peanuts for Freo. Low risk high return

 

[Mojo]

Yeah, not sure I agree with throwing out most of our premiership-winning backline simply because we can see a few sprouts coming through - Birchall, Stratton, Frawley still have good footy in front of them, coupled with experience and a loud voice; these attributes are really quite paramount for fertilising the previously mentioned sprouts sprouting through, not to mention depth in case of injury.

Sprouts.

 

[Catoggio76]

Hi,
New Poster. But have a legit scoop.

Can someone add this to the "Scandals and Rumours" thread. I am a long time reader of it.

Luke Hodge is going to Brisbane Lions today, source is a sponsor.

Thanks, I will post more soon.

 

[OnceKicked50]

Hawks: Stratton
Freo: Balic and 2018 third

Hawks: Birchall and WhiteX
Lions: 41 and 2018 3rd

Hawks: Hartung and 32
WCE: Gaff

Hawks: Poppy and 41
GWS: Kennedy

Rockliff free agent?

INS: Balic, Gaff, Kennedy, Freo's 2018 third rounder and Lions 2018 third rounder
Out: Stratton, Birchall, WhiteX, Hartung and Poppy

Best 22:
Hardiwck Brand Burton
Burgoyne Frawley Gunston

McEvoy Shiels O'Meara
Smith Mitchell Gaff

Bruest O'Brien Shoey
O'Rouke Roughead Rioli

Balic, Kennedy,Sicily, Lovell, Morrison, Stewart, Miles, Howe

This is ****ing awful.

1. How the **** is Stratton worth only a want-away 4 gamer and a third rounder? Pass.

2. Yep, Gaff (one of the best wing players in the game, AA and sill only 25) is worth Hartung and pick 32.

3. Unless Birch is offered a 3 year-deal elsewhere and asks to leave, whats the point trading him for pick 41 in a weak draft? His leadership will be vital next season. He will likely even free Burton up to swing forward and through the midfield.

4. You've started John O'Rourke on the ground.

 

[OzJohnnie]

Hi,
New Poster. But have a legit scoop.

Can someone add this to the "Scandals and Rumours" thread. I am a long time reader of it.

Luke Hodge is going to Brisbane Lions today, source is a sponsor.

Thanks, I will post more soon.

God knows they need the help. The Hawthorn Academy continues to exert its quiet influence over the game.

Because of my pride for the Hawthorn Academy I will support Richmond or the Plastic Fantastics to win the Grand Final. It's been five years since someone other than a Hawthorn product coached a winning Grand Final side. Let's keep the streak alive.