Mid East Israel declare war after Hamas attack III

[Number37]

which is what said. neither will their be a 2 state solution. israel has only ever been interested in destroying palestinians. aided and abetted by the yanks.

There will be a 2 state solution. Israel has made sure of that by attempting to steal all of the Palestinian land.

 

[Saint]

There will be a 2 state solution. Israel has made sure of that by attempting to steal all of the Palestinian land.

The only way there's one state is if enough zionists leave rather than stay to fight everyone in the region, especially after Iran gets a nuke. No way would I live in Tel Aviv under a war-monger like Netanyahu if our opponents had nuclear weapons.

People are already leaving in droves. It will become worse when rockets start getting through in the large wave which is coming.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Israel cannot hide behind the USA forever. USA protection is not guaranteed - particularly after so many recent failures in the Middle East.

Yes, they certainly can.

and Yes, it certainly is.

You are posting emotionally, not logically.

Israel should have been forced into a ceasefire 6 months ago. There's a reason that hasn't happened.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

The only way there's one state is if enough zionists leave rather than stay to fight everyone in the region, especially after Iran gets a nuke. No way would I live in Tel Aviv under a war-monger like Netanyahu if our opponents had nuclear weapons.

People are already leaving in droves. It will become worse when rockets start getting through in the large wave which is coming.

Iran is not only limp dicked, but it also doesn't have the weaponry anyone is really that worried about, any attack from Iran will also likely just like the last time they "responded" by sending a few firecrackers over the border.

They won't do anything meaningful with the US is sitting offshore, because if they do. They will get squashed.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

They can hide behind it forever, and it is guaranteed.

Open your eyes. They can literally genocide 40,000 people, bomb refugee camps, kill children and POW's while annexing Palestine, and nothing actually happens.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/meet-the-leading-jewish-political-donors-in-this-us-election-cycle/

The Saudis have also proved that it doesnt matter what your human rights record is, the Seppos will support you, because they need allies in the ME.

Nothing will change. People that think it will are set to be disappointed.

this is just plainly 100% correct.

 

[Number37]

The only way there's one state is if enough zionists leave rather than stay to fight everyone in the region, especially after Iran gets a nuke. No way would I live in Tel Aviv under a war-monger like Netanyahu if our opponents had nuclear weapons.

People are already leaving in droves. It will become worse when rockets start getting through in the large wave which is coming.

If Iran, or anybody else, has a full on go at Israel, there will be a lot of Israelis and Israel supporters surprised by just how vulnerable Israel and Israelis really are.
When that reality hits for Israelis, they will leave in droves.
Israel has always been a big mouth bully, punching down on defenseless Palestinians.

Both Russia and China have a very clear incentive to drag the US into a proxy war between Iran and Israel.
The moment the US has to commit troops to that war it is game over for Israel.

 

[QuietB]

If Iran, or anybody else, has a full on go at Israel, there will be a lot of Israelis and Israel supporters surprised by just how vulnerable Israel and Israelis really are.
When that reality hits for Israelis, they will leave in droves.
Israel has always been a big mouth bully, punching down on defenseless Palestinians.

Both Russia and China have a very clear incentive to drag the US into a proxy war between Iran and Israel.
The moment the US has to commit troops to that war it is game over for Israel.

And the US priority is China.

The Middle East is not a threat to the USA. Israel is not strategically important. Even NATO is dispensable to the USA.

There is only one rising power that threatens US dominance and it is China.

Why would the US push all their chips in for Israel?

USA policy has absolutely been blind support to Israel up until now. But a forever war in Iraq, and another forever war in Afghanistan, why the hell would the USA commit to a forever war for Israel? Especially when they already knows how it ends?

All it will do is strengthen China, weaken the USA and destroy the US economy (unprecedented oil prices).

For what? To fight someone else’s religious war?

Eventually the USA will wake up and say no.

 

[Number37]

Watched this recently - it is great. Talks about how Israel’s forced all the Arab Jews into Israel and then went on to treat them like 2nd class citizens

Like everything to do with Israel, the real story is a lot different to the story that we are told.
There is just nothing that they haven't lied about.

 

[Number37]

And the US priority is China.

The Middle East is not a threat to the USA. Israel is not strategically important. Even NATO is dispensable to the USA.

There is only one rising power that threatens US dominance and it is China.

Why would the US push all their chips in for Israel?

USA policy has absolutely been blind support to Israel up until now. But a forever war in Iraq, and another forever war in Afghanistan, why the hell would the USA commit to a forever war for Israel? Especially when they already knows how it ends?

All it will do is strengthen China, weaken the USA and destroy the US economy (unprecedented oil prices).

For what? To fight someone else’s religious war?

Eventually the USA will wake up and say no.

The crazy fundamentalists can only hold sway as long as the hip pocket of the people that matter isn't unduly impacted.
An Israel/Iran/Hezbollah war will see the price of oil skyrocket.
Nobody cares about Palestinian lives, but plenty care about their economic interests.
$5 per litre for petrol is going to make a lot of people angry.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

And the US priority is China.

The Middle East is not a threat to the USA. Israel is not strategically important. Even NATO is dispensable to the USA.

There is only one rising power that threatens US dominance and it is China.

Why would the US push all their chips in for Israel?

USA policy has absolutely been blind support to Israel up until now. But a forever war in Iraq, and another forever war in Afghanistan, why the hell would the USA commit to a forever war for Israel? Especially when they already knows how it ends?

All it will do is strengthen China, weaken the USA and destroy the US economy (unprecedented oil prices).

For what? To fight someone else’s religious war?

Eventually the USA will wake up and say no.

No it isn't and won't be for some time yet if at all.

Chinas economy is in the shit right now, it's become clear to all, including China post Covid that they need the western world so keep their economy afloat. They are currently in deflation. Thats why they are releasing all their restricted trade bans, so they can strengthen trade with the West again as without it they are cooked.

The USA doesn't need to put all in chips in for Israel, they could influence the middle east and protect Israel with very minimal military presence.

The big players in the OPEC oil game, are already aligned with the US. Oil prices are not going to destroy the US economy.

 

[Seeds]

No it isn't and won't be for some time yet if at all.

Chinas economy is in the shit right now, it's become clear to all, including China post Covid that they need the western world so keep their economy afloat. They are currently in deflation. Thats why they are releasing all their restricted trade bans, so they can strengthen trade with the West again as without it they are cooked.

The USA doesn't need to put all in chips in for Israel, they could influence the middle east and protect Israel with very minimal military presence.

Opening up to trade creates more deflationary pressure. Not less.

Ps. Nothing wrong with deflation. Its good for prices to fall. Makes everyone richer.

Chinas economic issues have nothing to do with deflation. Poor resource allocation is their problem. A problem that is ultimately inflationary eventually.

 

[Not Important]

a country that has had its fingerprints on hostilities around the globe for decades. now they provide they continue to weaponise a terrorist state as they massacre a people who are easy prey for the terrorist bullies.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Opening up to trade creates more deflationary pressure. Not less.

Ps. Nothing wrong with deflation. Its good for prices to fall. Makes everyone richer.

Chinas economic issues have nothing to do with deflation. Poor resource allocation is their problem. A problem that is ultimately inflationary eventually.

not true.

China wants more countries buying their goods. more demand = higher prices. Higher prices is back to inflationary.

And no, constant deflation is just as bad if not worse than constant inflation. Thats Economics 101. Thats why countries have a +2% CPI target generally. There's a reason why that target is not a negative.

Deflation is good when you are over your target band, but if it sticks. it will destroy economies, just as much as high inflation does. it's exactly what China is trying to avoid right now.

 

[Ballarat Bob]

Iran if it had the capability would be to fight fire with fire and assassinate prominent Israelis or ambassadors etc then play dumb.
Massed missile launches and parades of goose stepping revolutionary guards looks better for the domestic audience and projecting power across sympathetic arab populations.
Bibi is pushing his luck by antagonizing Iran to see if he can force the US to jump in. I have no doubt that the US will help defend Israel but there will be no major conflict between the US and Iran.
Biden / Harris are not going to commit US forces to a sustained campaign against Iran. Trump is dumb enough to get sucked into it mind you.

 

[Rotayjay]

Palestine urges ICC arrest warrant for Smotrich over call to starve Gaza

Palestinian Foreign Ministry slams Israeli minister Bezalel Smotrich for saying starving Palestinians may be ‘moral’.

www.aljazeera.com

He said the quiet part out loud - what a * head. That'll be good evidence at any future genocide trial at the ICC.

 

[barreness]

If Kamala doesn't demand Netanyahu resigns after this latest school slaughter she is useless and complicit.

She's offered a slightly more moderate position but you forget she's not in charge for another six months, what she says means nothing and it's unlikely Biden changes policy at this point. Unless he dies

 

[barreness]

not true.

China wants more countries buying their goods. more demand = higher prices. Higher prices is back to inflationary.

Presuming supply remains constant, a big presumption

And no, constant deflation is just as bad if not worse than constant inflation. Thats Economics 101. Thats why countries have a +2% CPI target generally. There's a reason why that target is not a negative.

Deflation is good when you are over your target band, but if it sticks. it will destroy economies, just as much as high inflation does. it's exactly what China is trying to avoid right now.

Deflation was a 2000-2019(ish) phenomenon, source for China suffering deflation?

Must get frustrating predicting the demise of China continually. Kinda wild considering they supply our middle class with affordable consumer goods, all trade relations are bidirectional which some forget

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Presuming supply remains constant, a big presumption

Deflation was a 2000-2019(ish) phenomenon, source for China suffering deflation?

Must get frustrating predicting the demise of China continually. Kinda wild considering they supply our middle class with affordable consumer goods, all trade relations are bidirectional which some forget

Go look at China CPI data.



Has been in a deflationary cycle for a while, Since Jan 2023 really, has only picked up positive growth steam since they released trade restrictions with western countries in the last 6+ months, around the end of 2023 start of 2024.

I'm not predicting the demise of China by any means, simply saying that are not worrying the US anytime soon as stated previously.

China now knows it relies on the west for their economy far more than they understood pre covid. Like you said they provide us with a lot of stuff. If we dont buy it, their economy halts, and halts quickly.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

She's offered a slightly more moderate position but you forget she's not in charge for another six months, what she says means nothing and it's unlikely Biden changes policy at this point. Unless he dies

There will be plenty of people killed before then

 

[Not Important]

savages. no other word for it.





sadly this is so.

 

[Not Important]

when i saw this tweet i thought can can’t be true.




then >

"Our race is the Master Race. We Jews are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves."

(Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin in a speech to the Knesset quoted by Amnon Kapeliouk, Begin and the Beasts," New Statesman, June 25, 1982))

 

[Not Important]

yes, yes a thousand times yes. they are a dangerous disinformation outfit.

 

[Not Important]

 

[sr36]

It's undeniable that we haven't seen these levels of genocidal intent from a population, like we're seeing from Israel, since Rwanda.....

Unfortunately not true. Rwanda later spilled into Congo and Burundi. Burmese massacring of Rohingya. Horrific stuff in Ehtiopia.

 

[ferball]

Unfortunately not true. Rwanda later spilled into Congo and Burundi. Burmese massacring of Rohingya. Horrific stuff in Ehtiopia.

Most people didn't see those things tho.