It's official - Watts to St Kilda pick 17

[morgoth]

We all know how bad we are at trading, in fact I suspect Essendon is counting on it. I don't think Cole is worth Essendon's frist pick probably around 12 to 15 would be about right.

If they cannot deliver I am quite happy for the club to delist him and put him in the PSD. Enough is enough, time to make a stand.

 

[Bueller]

How is it not a Smart move, Cole for pick 1 is still trading on potenial is that still a bad move?

Watts can't break into the Adelaide forward line, which isn't all that flash. Up until this year Cole had been good.

He has boarded with a Bomber board member in the past (not sure of his current circumstances) and was to be picked up by the Bombers when he was first drafted. However, the Pies drafted him first. It's as obvious as the day is light that Cole has wanted out all year, and playing at the top of his game was never going to help his cause.

 

[MJ101]

Not a bad deal. Previos threads have posted rumours about The Pav heading south. Any chance of pick 17 being part of a deal to the dockers potentially involving perrie or am i just another hopless crows fan dreaming?

 

[B-Rock]

If Fergus Watts is worth a first round draft pick, how can anyone suggest Daniel Motlop isnt?

 

[raman]

Not a bad deal. Previos threads have posted rumours about The Pav heading south. Any chance of pick 17 being part of a deal to the dockers potentially involving perrie or am i just another hopless crows fan dreaming?

The second one.

 

[ComicStoreGuy]

If Fergus Watts is worth a first round draft pick, how can anyone suggest Daniel Motlop isnt?

Because roos supporters have brains.

 

[morgoth]

Pavlich would require pick 1 to 3 plus another in the top 10; AT LEAST!

Will not happen, I still bleed over the McKee Roach deal over Pav so I know where you are coming from.

 

[Weaver]

Crows should trade that pick to Richmond for Tivendale


I don't see why STK need Watts, they have Kosi, Gehrig, Riewoldt and Hamill

Gehrig is 29, Hudghton 29 and Hamill 28. So getting an extra big bloke is handy. Also gives them a lot of flexability ... they can play Riewoldt on the wing and Kosi in the ruck now and Watts at CHF.

 

[raman]

If Fergus Watts is worth a first round draft pick, how can anyone suggest Daniel Motlop isnt?

Watts has been around two years, not five. Watts, while perhaps a mummy's boy, is not an injury-prone head case.

 

[Portia]

Don't forget that Watts is also a key position player, without deficiencies in either height or strength.

 

[stui magpie]

First trade sets the frame of reference. The fact that the saints have been royally stitched up giving away their first pick for a meat bomb who happens to be their CEO's son doesn't come into it. The standard has been set

In a different year, you can argue that Cole isn't worth a first round pick.

However, he's young; has played some very good football in the past with the potential to be a valuable midfielder and has years ahead of him.

You reckon Watt's value is up because he's a KPP? Doesn't he actually have to be a good KPP to be worth anything? An the Juries still out on him.

 

[Fred Phillis]

Not a bad deal. Previos threads have posted rumours about The Pav heading south. Any chance of pick 17 being part of a deal to the dockers potentially involving perrie or am i just another hopless crows fan dreaming?

not a dream...more like fantasy

 

[Qsaint]

Gehrig is 29, Hudghton 29 and Hamill 28. So getting an extra big bloke is handy. Also gives them a lot of flexability ... they can play Riewoldt on the wing and Kosi in the ruck now and Watts at CHF.

We also have psitzer (sp?) But it probably means the end for Stone and Brooks. I expect the rest of any drafts/trades to be focused around midfields ; powell/thompson/peckett/harvey only have a year left probably.

 

[Qsaint]

First trade sets the frame of reference. The fact that the saints have been royally stitched up giving away their first pick for a meat bomb who happens to be their CEO's son doesn't come into it. The standard has been set

In a different year, you can argue that Cole isn't worth a first round pick.

However, he's young; has played some very good football in the past with the potential to be a valuable midfielder and has years ahead of him.

You reckon Watt's value is up because he's a KPP? Doesn't he actually have to be a good KPP to be worth anything? An the Juries still out on him.

Well thats called trading on potential

 

[Mong]

If you are saying he is worth more, you are trading on potential, which usually isn't a smart move.

But these are trades for draft picks which themselves are used for picking up players with potential.

 

[ComicStoreGuy]

First trade sets the frame of reference. The fact that the saints have been royally stitched up giving away their first pick for a meat bomb who happens to be their CEO's son doesn't come into it. The standard has been set

In a different year, you can argue that Cole isn't worth a first round pick.

However, he's young; has played some very good football in the past with the potential to be a valuable midfielder and has years ahead of him.

You reckon Watt's value is up because he's a KPP? Doesn't he actually have to be a good KPP to be worth anything? An the Juries still out on him.

Ok then I'll trade you Powell for T.Cloke.

 

[ComicStoreGuy]

But these are trades for draft picks which themselves are used for picking up players with potential.

Check-mate.

 

[ThePope]

And we see it every year. Big young blokes get overrated, Jolly for 15 turned out great for Syd, but we all thought they got screwed. 29 for Johnson was a bargain for WC as he's not worth that. Maybe it's the whole "big blokes play best at 25-30 years old" idea...

 

[evo]

Not a bad result for the Saints.Looks like this trade was always on the cards.

Wouldn't be suprised if Miller try's to trade one of our players for this pick to ontrade with our #8 for Fev.

 

[afc9798]

WTF do you base that on?

Watts has played five games.

Cole's value is less because we've seen him play more than 5 games. Fergus still has some unknown about him and is a potential KPP. Cole is a HFF or HBF at best and with poor disposal.

 

[afc9798]

Not a bad result for the Saints.Looks like this trade was always on the cards.

Wouldn't be suprised if Miller try's to trade one of our players for this pick to ontrade with our #8 for Fev.

Schulz.....

 

[davieblaze]

Ment to be a bit weak in comparison to other years in this years draft as well... there aren't said to be many superstars that stand out like in previous years..

I think if this is true trading rather than going into the draft with a 17th pick isn't a bad deal.....


what would other teams trade for pick 33 + either Troy Schwarze or Brent Guerra? or even both??

 

[evo]

Schulz.....

he does make sense I guess.Prefer if it was Hall.

 

[stui magpie]

Ok then I'll trade you Powell for T.Cloke.

******** Yeah, not a problem!!!!

Which pub are you performing at? I love good stand up comedy, I'll come along and have a look.

 

[goalpie]

5 games in 2 years for pick 17. Saints have been ripped off.